Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

On Jun 22, 8:22*am, Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

I believe lowes has regular channel nuts but these look like they may
be a special size and I have not seen them at lowes with a spring on
the back.

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
wrote:

Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Yup-
http://www.mcmaster.com/

Several styles & sizes. These folks are great- I'm a long-time
satisfied customer.

Jim

Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)


Probably. Fastenal is one U.S. source. Electricians in my area
use them when mounting panels. Some on Ebay. Some trade names are
Unistrut, Superstrut, and Powerstrut.

In article
,
says...
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg


Yes, you can find them at Home Depot. They are with the SuperStrut parts
stocked next to the electrical conduit. They fit the 1 5/8" wide SuperStrut.
They carry them in 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" at least.

--
DT

On Jun 22, 9:07*am, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

* * *Probably. * Fastenal is one U.S. source. * Electricians in my area
use them when mounting panels. *Some on Ebay. *Some trade names are
Unistrut, Superstrut, and Powerstrut.

At least around here, I've heard it called "Kindorf" more than
anything else.

nate

On Jun 22, 7:36*am, N8N wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:07*am, Dean Hoffman wrote:

Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

* * *Probably. * Fastenal is one U.S. source. * Electricians in my area
use them when mounting panels. *Some on Ebay. *Some trade names are
Unistrut, Superstrut, and Powerstrut.

At least around here, I've heard it called "Kindorf" more than
anything else.

nate

Thanks much to all, very helpful!

On 6/22/2010 8:22 AM, Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)


Sure, any real supply house will have a good selection of channel nuts
plus all of the other helpful hardware/clamps/accessories you can buy to
use with Unistrut or whatever manufacturer is popular in your area.

On Jun 22, 7:36*am, N8N wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:07*am, Dean Hoffman wrote:

Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

* * *Probably. * Fastenal is one U.S. source. * Electricians in my area
use them when mounting panels. *Some on Ebay. *Some trade names are
Unistrut, Superstrut, and Powerstrut.

At least around here, I've heard it called "Kindorf" more than
anything else.

nate

I got some from our electrician in the area...I needed them to remount
seats in our facility bus (8 passenger+2 wheelchair)
Thanks again...job done!
bob

On Jun 22, 8:22*am, Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

Why does the catalog page say:

"For best results use M 12 size"

If there are various sizes for various applications, how would they
know that the M 12 size will give the best results?

Why would they even sell alternatives that *won't* give the best
results?

On 6/22/2010 4:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 22, 8:22 am, Bob wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

Why does the catalog page say:

"For best results use M 12 size"

If there are various sizes for various applications, how would they
know that the M 12 size will give the best results?

Why would they even sell alternatives that *won't* give the best
results?


Because that is the largest thread size and most stable/strongest. But
not everything you might be attaching to the strut can accommodate a M12
bolt.

On 6/22/2010 7:22 AM, Bob Villa wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)


Any electrical supply house in the U.S. stocks them but not
necessarily in metric sizes. The smaller sizes are used in
data cabinets and should be available through supply houses
that cater to network and telecom infrastructure installers.
The last 19" rack panel cabinet I assembled used a lot of
the small spring nuts in sizes like 10/32 in 1/2" channel.

TDD

On Jun 22, 4:25*pm, George wrote:
On 6/22/2010 4:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:



On Jun 22, 8:22 am, Bob *wrote:
Channel nuts (not fishing or TV surfing related)

http://www.jdr-websites.co.uk/galler.../image/12a.jpg

Thanks,
bob
(I do not live in the UK)

Why does the catalog page say:

"For best results use M 12 size"

If there are various sizes for various applications, how would they
know that the M 12 size will give the best results?

Why would they even sell alternatives that *won't* give the best
results?

Because that is the largest thread size and most stable/strongest. But
not everything you might be attaching to the strut can accommodate a M12
bolt.

If what you are attaching can't accommodate an M 12 bolt, then the M
12 size won't give you the "best result".

That was basically the point of my question.

If your explanation is correct (and I have no reason to doubt it) then
the wording should be:

"For the best results, use the largest thread size that will work for
your application."

Selecting a specific size without knowing the given application and
saying that it will give the "best result" is misleading and confusing.

My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
wrote:

My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

I don't get it. How do these channel nuts work? Do they stick
somehow to the understide of the floor?...

I think I get it now, but how did it help with your bus? It had rods
or soemthing going across the bottom to hold the nuts?



What are those channels on each side and how do they help them stick?

What could the spring do?

Any or all of that is appreciated.

mm wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
wrote:

My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

I don't get it. How do these channel nuts work? Do they stick
somehow to the understide of the floor?...

I think I get it now, but how did it help with your bus? It had rods
or soemthing going across the bottom to hold the nuts?



What are those channels on each side and how do they help them stick?

What could the spring do?

Any or all of that is appreciated.

You use them in channel (hence "channel nut"):
http://www.unistrut.com/about/index.php?P=Overview

The nuts go anywhere into the channel, then you turn them clockwise
about 80 degrees. The spring holds the nut at the top of the channel.
The grooves in the nut catch the edges at the top of the channel so the
nut won't turn.

--
bud--

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:35:22 -0500, bud--
wrote:

mm wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
wrote:

My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

I don't get it. How do these channel nuts work? Do they stick
somehow to the understide of the floor?...

I think I get it now, but how did it help with your bus? It had rods
or soemthing going across the bottom to hold the nuts?



What are those channels on each side and how do they help them stick?

What could the spring do?

Any or all of that is appreciated.

You use them in channel (hence "channel nut"):
http://www.unistrut.com/about/index.php?P=Overview

The nuts go anywhere into the channel, then you turn them clockwise
about 80 degrees. The spring holds the nut at the top of the channel.
The grooves in the nut catch the edges at the top of the channel so the
nut won't turn.

Wow. That's great. Great picture. Great idea.

Thanks.

On Jun 23, 9:31*pm, mm wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa

wrote:
My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. *This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

I don't get it. *How do these channel nuts work? *Do they stick
somehow to the understide of the floor?...

I think I get it now, but how did it help with your bus? *It had rods
or soemthing going across the bottom to hold the nuts?

What are those channels on each side and how do they help them stick?

What could the spring do?

Any or all of that is appreciated.

There are channels on each wall and in the floor on each side. They
are lower profile (rectangular rather than square).
We have double seats on the left and single on the right. What I had
to do is remove one of the doubles and add a jump seat and put another
single on the right.
Hope this makes sense.

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:47:13 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
wrote:

On Jun 23, 9:31*pm, mm wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa

wrote:
My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. *This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

I don't get it. *How do these channel nuts work? *Do they stick
somehow to the understide of the floor?...

I think I get it now, but how did it help with your bus? *It had rods
or soemthing going across the bottom to hold the nuts?

What are those channels on each side and how do they help them stick?

What could the spring do?

Any or all of that is appreciated.

There are channels on each wall and in the floor on each side. They
are lower profile (rectangular rather than square).
We have double seats on the left and single on the right. What I had
to do is remove one of the doubles and add a jump seat and put another
single on the right.
Hope this makes sense.

Yes it does. Thanks. I'm starting to recall that I may have seen
such channels. I didn't know about channel nuts and didn't associate
the two.

On Jun 25, 7:36*pm, mm wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:47:13 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa





wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:31 pm, mm wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 05:11:36 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa

wrote:
My application was M12 and ended up using 1/2" nut with grade 8
bolts. This is a Supreme (StarTrans) 2008 conversion bus-Ford V8.

bob_v

I don't get it. How do these channel nuts work? Do they stick
somehow to the understide of the floor?...

I think I get it now, but how did it help with your bus? It had rods
or soemthing going across the bottom to hold the nuts?

What are those channels on each side and how do they help them stick?

What could the spring do?

Any or all of that is appreciated.

There are channels on each wall and in the floor on each side. They
are lower profile (rectangular rather than square).
We have double seats on the left and single on the right. What I had
to do is remove one of the doubles and add a jump seat and put another
single on the right.
Hope this makes sense.

Yes it does. *Thanks. *I'm starting to recall that I may have seen
such channels. *I didn't know about channel nuts and didn't associate
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bob