Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Home Repair (alt.home.repair) For all homeowners and DIYers with many experienced tradesmen. Solve your toughest home fix-it problems. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the
contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve |
#2
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
Steve B wrote:
I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? There are very simple "pumps" powered by water pressure that would probably do what you want. With the suction from the long downward outlet tube, it would probably only need to run for a bit to start the suction. For that matter, a check valve with a 'T' above it going to the outlet hose could be used. Turn on water into the 'T' to start the outlet hose siphon, then turn it off. The siphon will open the check valve to siphon out the water until it gets low enough to draw air and break the siphon. This would have the advantage of relative immunity to damage by crud in the water. The check valve and 'T' would be placed near the bottom of the pipe. There are also wet/dry vacs with a pump built in to empty liquids even with the vacuum on, or shop vacs with a hose connection on the tank already. |
#3
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
Steve B wrote:
I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Get a fire hose. I see 'em on Ebay from time to time. A 2" canvas hose won't cost much. |
#4
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
Steve B wrote:
I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve How about this: http://www.plumbingsupply.com/mightymightpump.html -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. And you too can become a fracking prick.............. |
#5
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
"LSMFT" wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve How about this: http://www.plumbingsupply.com/mightymightpump.html -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. And you too can become a fracking prick.............. I think I could make the nineties in that so I could stick it down the vertical pipe. It might work. Steve |
#6
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
On Mar 15, 1:13*am, "Steve B" wrote:
I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. *Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. *I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. *Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. *Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve Why do you need to pump out this pipe? Can you use a cap with a hose fitting and let it fill to capacity and then drain out on it's own? You'd need to "permanently" install the 200' of hose (or PVC pipe) but you'd be one and done instead of "occasionally" having to set up your pump system for short term use. |
#7
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
Steve B wrote:
wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve How about this: http://www.plumbingsupply.com/mightymightpump.html -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. And you too can become a fracking prick.............. I think I could make the nineties in that so I could stick it down the vertical pipe. It might work. Steve Or you might be able to run a tube from the center hole down the pipe. -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. And you too can become a fracking prick.............. |
#8
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
Steve B wrote:
"LSMFT" wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve How about this: http://www.plumbingsupply.com/mightymightpump.html -- LSMFT Drive slower than the posted speed............................. And you too can become a fracking prick.............. I think I could make the nineties in that so I could stick it down the vertical pipe. It might work. That's the one I was talking about. The problem might be the size of the water inlet hole might be small enough to plug up with the "solods" in the pipe. How deep is this pipe you need to pump out? A vacuum can only lift water about 30 feet at the absulute maximum, which would limit the check valve/siphon system I talked about before. |
#9
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:57:24 -0700, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Mar 15, 1:13*am, "Steve B" wrote: I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. *Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. *I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. *Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. *Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve Why do you need to pump out this pipe? Can you use a cap with a hose fitting and let it fill to capacity and then drain out on it's own? You'd need to "permanently" install the 200' of hose (or PVC pipe) but you'd be one and done instead of "occasionally" having to set up your pump system for short term use. I feel if I jerk your chain and let you feel that you are of some value it will make you like me more and more. Keep looking for future stupid posts that you will be able to chime in on in the future. DUH! |
#10
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
On Mar 15, 2:18*pm, "Steve B." wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:57:24 -0700, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Mar 15, 1:13*am, "Steve B" wrote: I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. *Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. *I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. *Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. *Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve Why do you need to pump out this pipe? Can you use a cap with a hose fitting and let it fill to capacity and then drain out on it's own? You'd need to "permanently" install the 200' of hose (or PVC pipe) but you'd be one and done instead of "occasionally" having to set up your pump system for short term use. I feel if I jerk your chain and let you feel that you are of some value it will make you like me more and more. Keep looking for future stupid posts that you will be able to chime in on in the future. DUH!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm glad I could be of some assitance. We'll chat again real soon. |
#11
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
What are you trying to do? Sounds like you've got a borehole
that needs to have the water pumped down hill some how. I've got a maybe idea, but it would take some trying to explain. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve B" wrote in message ... I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve |
#12
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Vacuum question
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... On Mar 15, 2:18 pm, "Steve B." wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:57:24 -0700, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Mar 15, 1:13 am, "Steve B" wrote: I need a vacuum that I can put into a pipe, and have it suck out the contents like a vacuum. Not a sump pump that is lowered, or a pump that needs to be primed, or even a self priming pump. I need to occasionally pump a four inch vertical pipe where fluids accumulate below grade, and run it out 200' downhill through a 3/4" hose. Doing that will create some suction and head pressure on its own. Almost all pumps are larger than 4", and those that have a garden hose intake are flimsy and the impeller won't take much solids and sand, which may compose some of the content. Ideas? I thought of getting a dedicated wet vac, and putting a through the hull fitting on it that would drain the water out of the tank, putting a 90 ball valve on there, and opening it when the tank got close to full. Ideas? Steve Why do you need to pump out this pipe? Can you use a cap with a hose fitting and let it fill to capacity and then drain out on it's own? You'd need to "permanently" install the 200' of hose (or PVC pipe) but you'd be one and done instead of "occasionally" having to set up your pump system for short term use. I feel if I jerk your chain and let you feel that you are of some value it will make you like me more and more. Keep looking for future stupid posts that you will be able to chime in on in the future. DUH!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm glad I could be of some assitance. We'll chat again real soon. REPLY: I DID NOT POST THE ABOVE. This is Steve B. The real one. The one who has been posting here for years. I just munged my ID to get past your killfile, which you may have put me in. I apparently have a stalker. If you know how to analyze the properties of my message, you can figure out that the paths from my history of posts is not anything like the person who posted the stuff above. You have always contributed good stuff, DD, and we have spoken a lot in the past here. Please analyze the paths if you know how. In the meantime, I shall munge my ID as soon as this clown imitates me, and still sign my posts The Real Steve B, so as to get some posts in until my shadow tires and goes away. The real Steve B |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Vacuum pump question | Metalworking | |||
Vacuum pump question | Metalworking | |||
Vacuum Wiring Question | Woodworking | |||
Vacuum pump UNSTUCK -- and question | Metalworking | |||
Shop Vacuum Question | Woodworking |