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storm door closer: pin?
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket
mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. |
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storm door closer: pin?
woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. a) Drill hole in the one you have if long enough b) Make one out of stove bolt if can't find right size (which would seem fairly unlikely in a decent hardware selection) c) Nylok nut would work fine if don't drill... -- |
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woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. a) Drill hole in the one you have if long enough b) Make one out of stove bolt if can't find right size (which would seem fairly unlikely in a decent hardware selection) c) Nylok nut would work fine if don't drill... -- |
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storm door closer: pin?
10-24 screw or bolt with nylon stop nut, comes to mind.
Or, a big cotter pin bent out at the ends, instead of the work-out pin. Or a large common nail, which is too long to work out. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "woger151" wrote in message ... My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. |
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storm door closer: pin?
10-24 screw or bolt with nylon stop nut, comes to mind.
Or, a big cotter pin bent out at the ends, instead of the work-out pin. Or a large common nail, which is too long to work out. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "woger151" wrote in message ... My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. |
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Maybe a small drop of Super Glue on just the top and bottom -- so it is
glued to one of the parts, but not glued to the other part. It can be glued in place to one of the parts as long as the other one is free to rotate around the pin. woger151 wrote: My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. |
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Maybe a small drop of Super Glue on just the top and bottom -- so it is
glued to one of the parts, but not glued to the other part. It can be glued in place to one of the parts as long as the other one is free to rotate around the pin. woger151 wrote: My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. |
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storm door closer: pin?
I just put a small tie-wrap on the end of mine so it will not pop out.
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I just put a small tie-wrap on the end of mine so it will not pop out.
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On Dec 11, 10:02*am, woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. *The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. *I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? *I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. A goober of latex caulk will hold it in place, and still allow the pin to be removed without much effort. R |
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storm door closer: pin?
On Dec 11, 10:02*am, woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. *The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. *I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? *I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. A goober of latex caulk will hold it in place, and still allow the pin to be removed without much effort. R |
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storm door closer: pin?
On Dec 11, 10:02*am, woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. *The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. *I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? *I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. "a pin with a hole for a cotter pin" It's called a "clevis pin" and just about any hardware store or home center will carry them in many different sizes. Is 1/4 too big? http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=999600109 You don't need to use a cotter pin..you can find very small hitch clips that will work, or just use a small paper clip which will hang neatly out of the way. "I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily" A lock nut with a nylon insert should work just fine: http://www.fastenal.com/web/products...n_dim_search=1 |
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storm door closer: pin?
On Dec 11, 10:02*am, woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. *The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. *I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? *I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. "a pin with a hole for a cotter pin" It's called a "clevis pin" and just about any hardware store or home center will carry them in many different sizes. Is 1/4 too big? http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=999600109 You don't need to use a cotter pin..you can find very small hitch clips that will work, or just use a small paper clip which will hang neatly out of the way. "I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily" A lock nut with a nylon insert should work just fine: http://www.fastenal.com/web/products...n_dim_search=1 |
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storm door closer: pin?
On Dec 11, 9:02*am, woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. *The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. *I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? *I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. A regular small bachine screw with two nuts on the end, so they lock against each other. |
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I've had good success with nylon stop nuts. I prefer bolts,
over bachine screws, cause the bolts are easeier to turn (wrench, versus screw driver). -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "hr(bob) " wrote in message ... A regular small bachine screw with two nuts on the end, so they lock against each other. |
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On Dec 11, 10:02*am, woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. *The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. *I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? *I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. My front door was doing that. I squeezed the end of the pin with a pair of vise grips just enough to burr it a little. I will probably have to take it out with a center punch the next time I have to take it out. Screws and locknuts are better ideas. Jimmie |
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storm door closer: pin?
woger151 wrote:
My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. Go to a big box or hardware store and look in one of those slide out compartmented screw boxes that usually have a few each of odd parts and see if you can find a push nut or push on cap nut. If you replace your pin with a threaded screw, it could lead to premature wear of the pivot point. Here are some links to give you an idea of what I'm referring to. http://tinyurl.com/ybk7ozh http://tinyurl.com/y8o9obl http://www.aaronspushnuts.com/ TDD |
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JIMMIE wrote:
On Dec 11, 10:02 am, woger151 wrote: My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. My front door was doing that. I squeezed the end of the pin with a pair of vise grips just enough to burr it a little. I will probably have to take it out with a center punch the next time I have to take it out. Screws and locknuts are better ideas. Jimmie if you use a bolt/nut just use a nylock, it won't work loose. Alternately find a good hardware store and get a clevis pin and a hairpin clip. If they don't know what you're talking about when you ask for the above, you're in the wrong store. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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The Daring Dufas wrote: woger151 wrote: My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. Go to a big box or hardware store and look in one of those slide out compartmented screw boxes that usually have a few each of odd parts and see if you can find a push nut or push on cap nut. If you replace your pin with a threaded screw, it could lead to premature wear of the pivot point. Here are some links to give you an idea of what I'm referring to. http://tinyurl.com/ybk7ozh http://tinyurl.com/y8o9obl http://www.aaronspushnuts.com/ TDD Agree that it would be better not to use a fully threaded bolt. OP could use a shoulder bolt, or its homespun alternative: smaller diameter bolt with a bushing. |
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Smitty Two wrote:
In article , The Daring Dufas wrote: woger151 wrote: My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. Go to a big box or hardware store and look in one of those slide out compartmented screw boxes that usually have a few each of odd parts and see if you can find a push nut or push on cap nut. If you replace your pin with a threaded screw, it could lead to premature wear of the pivot point. Here are some links to give you an idea of what I'm referring to. http://tinyurl.com/ybk7ozh http://tinyurl.com/y8o9obl http://www.aaronspushnuts.com/ TDD Agree that it would be better not to use a fully threaded bolt. OP could use a shoulder bolt, or its homespun alternative: smaller diameter bolt with a bushing. If he had a die to thread the end of the pin with, he could screw on a nylock nut. Someone mentioned a small cable tie cinched around the protruding end of the pin. I would probably use a cable tie first and pick up a push nut when I was out getting supplies for another project. TDD |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:47:00 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: Smitty Two wrote: In article , The Daring Dufas wrote: woger151 wrote: My storm door closer has a pin that attaches the closer to the bracket mounted on the door. The pin will occasionally work itself out. I'd like to replace the pin with something that won't do that. I had thought of a pin with a hole for a cotter pin, but there's not all that much available. Any suggestions? I thought maybe something some threads at the end, but I'm not sure what kind of nut I can use that won't come off easily. Go to a big box or hardware store and look in one of those slide out compartmented screw boxes that usually have a few each of odd parts and see if you can find a push nut or push on cap nut. If you replace your pin with a threaded screw, it could lead to premature wear of the pivot point. Here are some links to give you an idea of what I'm referring to. http://tinyurl.com/ybk7ozh http://tinyurl.com/y8o9obl http://www.aaronspushnuts.com/ TDD Agree that it would be better not to use a fully threaded bolt. OP could use a shoulder bolt, or its homespun alternative: smaller diameter bolt with a bushing. If he had a die to thread the end of the pin with, he could screw on a nylock nut. Someone mentioned a small cable tie cinched around the protruding end of the pin. I would probably use a cable tie first and pick up a push nut when I was out getting supplies for another project. TDD I'm wondering why the pin is working itself out in the first place. A bolt/locknut combination should work. |
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storm door closer: pin?
replying to The Daring Dufas, Jerry wrote:
Anybody ever wonder why the manufacturers of the closers don't just include a pin that's secure? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...in-411327-.htm |
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If you guys losing pins is an issue I can't wonder what happens when hell breaks loose.
Is the flat wide part of the pin on top? See the little indents on that pin? |
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replying to Jerry, Bobby wrote:
In the nine years since the original post none of us have wondered. Never had one fall out. Two houses, four doors over the past 50 years. Put a wad of bubble gum on the bottom to hold it. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...in-411327-.htm |
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