Hello,

Often I see several substances such as cleaners, fertilizers,
pestisides etc. all have the same ingredients but go under a different
name.Given that we are charged based on the application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply house is 7 bucks a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is nothing more than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is there a wesbsite?

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:02:40 -0600, "Jim" nospam@wherever wrote:
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name.Given that we are charged based on the application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply house is 7 bucks a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is nothing more than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is there a wesbsite?


Don't know of a general website-- but for the pool stuff there are a
couple of chemists who hang out at the pool&spaforum.
http://www.poolspaforum.com/forum/index.php?
[Chem geek, and Nitro in the hot tub chemistry forum- I imagine
someone covers the pool chemistry]

They've simplified and 'cheepified' my hot tub maintenance to
practically nothing.

Jim

On Nov 10, 11:02*pm, "Jim" nospam@wherever wrote:
*Hello,

* * * Often I see several substances such as cleaners, fertilizers,
pestisides etc. all have the same ingredients but go under a different
name.Given that we are charged based on the application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply house is 7 bucks a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is nothing more than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is there a wesbsite?

You dont know much, what pesticide has the same ingrediant as a
cleaner or fertiliser. Denatured alcohol is maybe 11$ a gallon, try
that and use the rest in your gas.

wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:02:40 -0600, "Jim" nospam@wherever wrote:

Hello,

Often I see several substances such as cleaners, fertilizers,
pestisides etc. all have the same ingredients but go under a different
name.Given that we are charged based on the application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply house is 7 bucks a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is nothing more than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is there a wesbsite?



Look up the MSDS sheet.

HAZCOM standard does not require that all ingredients be listed on the
MSDS and except for specific materials, percentages of listed
ingredients are not required. Chief requirements of an MSDS is to list
hazards of material, first aid and handling suggestions.

"ransley" wrote in message
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On Nov 10, 11:02 pm, "Jim" nospam@wherever wrote:
Hello,

Often I see several substances such as cleaners, fertilizers,
pestisides etc. all have the same ingredients but go under a different
name.Given that we are charged based on the application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply house is 7 bucks
a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is nothing more
than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is there a
wesbsite?

You dont know much, what pesticide has the same ingrediant as a
cleaner or fertiliser. Denatured alcohol is maybe 11$ a gallon, try
that and use the rest in your gas.

My Bad... I see where someone could take that out of context...
Okay...let me reword that for you so I don't get picked apart...


Often I see several substances such as cleaners, fertilizers. pesticides
etc. go under different names but use the same ingredients...

In article ,
"Jim" nospam@wherever wrote:

Hello,

Often I see several substances such as cleaners, fertilizers,
pestisides etc. all have the same ingredients but go under a different
name.Given that we are charged based on the application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply house is 7 bucks a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is nothing more than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is there a wesbsite?

I don't know of a clearinghouse website with product formulas. But I"m
sure there's one out there somewhere, at least for household stuff.
Maybe not the heavy duty stuff. I still have a hard copy book around
here somewhere called "Formulas, Methods, Tips, and Data" or something
like that, with a section on home made recipes for household cleansers.

With almost everything, you pay for packaging, shipping, stocking, and
advertising. The ingredient cost is often negligible. When I was a
teenager my friends and I got into cross-country skiing. The solvent for
cleaning the wax off the skis (before applying a fresh coat) was on the
spendy side, so I gave some to my father, a chem professor, and he
analyzed it in the lab. Turned out to be 99.5% some particular chemical
that could be bought by the gallon for what we were paying for a little
six ounce bottle.

Brilliant idea, and I'm sure the sales and marketing people
would have a fit. You would be killing thier cash cow, don't
you know?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Jim" nospam@wherever wrote in message
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Hello,

Often I see several substances such as cleaners,
fertilizers,
pestisides etc. all have the same ingredients but go under a
different
name.Given that we are charged based on the
application...IE: my swimming
pool cartridge cleaner product bought from a pool supply
house is 7 bucks a
bottle......on investigation of it's contents I see it is
nothing more than
isopropal alcohol and can buy a dozen for the same
price...My question or
perhaps a suggestion is someone should come up with the
exact ingredient
list of household products and put them on a website...Is
there a wesbsite?