MY 6-year-old Larson storm dooor latch mechanism died today. I went
out to get the newspaper and the storm door wouldn't open when I tried
to get back in the house. I had to ring the doorbell to get my wife
to open the garage door so I could get back in. Fotunately, the
weather was good.

After considerable prying weith knives and putty knives, I was aboe to
get the door open. WHat happened was that the latch mechanism had
disconneted itself from the bars that retract it from the outward
position where it rests against the striker plate. There is one spot
where the metal cross-section is only about 1/8" square, and that is
where the mechanism broke.

Went to the Larson web site, they would sell a complete new latch
assembly for $45 or so. Called their hotline phone, after the web
site said it was open Monday thru Saturday (today is Saturday in the
Chicago area), only to get the message that they are only open Mon -
Friday. Their wab site needs fixing.

Went to our local Menards where the door was purchased 6 years ago.
They had a replacement door latch kit for only $35. Bought it and
came home to install. I discovered that the latch assembly would not
work on my Larson door because the handle assembly sould not reach the
outside lever/doorknob. Also, the replacement was a totally different
locking schemeee, with a key and turn the center of the knob like in
residential interior doors.

I was able to remove the handle from one side of the replacement
assembly and use it and the new latching mechanism to restore the
door. The only difference is there is now no way to lock the storm
door, but we haven't used that feature of the door more than 4 times
in six years, so that is ok. The new "brass" color is different from
the old doorr, but that is only visible when you look at both the
inside and outside knobs/levers at the same time, which is also pretty
infrequently.

So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on a
strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!

On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:35:16 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

MY 6-year-old Larson storm dooor latch mechanism died today. I went
out to get the newspaper and the storm door wouldn't open when I tried
to get back in the house. I had to ring the doorbell to get my wife
to open the garage door so I could get back in. Fotunately, the
weather was good.

After considerable prying weith knives and putty knives, I was aboe to
get the door open. WHat happened was that the latch mechanism had
disconneted itself from the bars that retract it from the outward
position where it rests against the striker plate. There is one spot
where the metal cross-section is only about 1/8" square, and that is
where the mechanism broke.

Went to the Larson web site, they would sell a complete new latch
assembly for $45 or so. Called their hotline phone, after the web
site said it was open Monday thru Saturday (today is Saturday in the
Chicago area), only to get the message that they are only open Mon -
Friday. Their wab site needs fixing.

Went to our local Menards where the door was purchased 6 years ago.
They had a replacement door latch kit for only $35. Bought it and
came home to install. I discovered that the latch assembly would not
work on my Larson door because the handle assembly sould not reach the
outside lever/doorknob. Also, the replacement was a totally different
locking schemeee, with a key and turn the center of the knob like in
residential interior doors.

I was able to remove the handle from one side of the replacement
assembly and use it and the new latching mechanism to restore the
door. The only difference is there is now no way to lock the storm
door, but we haven't used that feature of the door more than 4 times
in six years, so that is ok. The new "brass" color is different from
the old doorr, but that is only visible when you look at both the
inside and outside knobs/levers at the same time, which is also pretty
infrequently.

So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on a
strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!


I have Emco storm doors. One door has been replaced twice, free of
charge, my labor. These doors are sold as "Forever Doors" and their
claim is that you will buy their door only ONE time. Home Depot
sells them.

I would expect Larson would send you a free replacement. Let us know
what they said after you call the hotline on Monday.

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on a
strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!


You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and put
the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
:


"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on
a strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!


You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and
put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal




...and put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.

chuckle That was pretty coarsely written.

On Sep 12, 10:18*pm, Red Green wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote :



"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a *cheap piece of potting metal on
a strategic piece of their door. *I never buy Larson again!!!!!

You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and
put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal

...and put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.

chuckle That was pretty coarsely written.

That's OK - I didn't bother to check my message, I was so ****ed off.
Also, I had to get the door assembly fixed so that we could use the
front door on our house. We wanted to be able to keep the full inside
door open and use the screen door for ventilation and to keep the bugs
out. We are having a late summer or and Indian summer here in the
Chicago area (Naperville). I'll post whatever happens after I
contact Larson on Monday. I do expect that they will reimburse me if
I send them the bill and the defective latch assembly.

hr(bob) wrote:
On Sep 12, 10:18 pm, Red Green wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote :



"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on
a strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!
You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and
put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal
...and put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
chuckle That was pretty coarsely written.

That's OK - I didn't bother to check my message, I was so ****ed off.
Also, I had to get the door assembly fixed so that we could use the
front door on our house. We wanted to be able to keep the full inside
door open and use the screen door for ventilation and to keep the bugs
out. We are having a late summer or and Indian summer here in the
Chicago area (Naperville). I'll post whatever happens after I
contact Larson on Monday. I do expect that they will reimburse me if
I send them the bill and the defective latch assembly.
Hi,
Because of one incidence you boycott a brand? My top of line Larson door
I installed 15 years ago is still working fine. I think they are good doors.
It took a beating when my two teenager kids were growing up.
Nothing broke yet on the door.

Since my son-in-law has a fine instrument machine shop with lots of
moulding capacity, I can have any broken metal parts duplicated with
choice of material.

On Sep 12, 11:39*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
hr(bob) wrote:
On Sep 12, 10:18 pm, Red Green wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote :

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a *cheap piece of potting metal on
a strategic piece of their door. *I never buy Larson again!!!!!
You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and
put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal
...and put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
chuckle That was pretty coarsely written.

That's OK - I didn't bother to check my message, I was so ****ed off.
Also, I had to get the door assembly fixed so that we could use the
front door on our house. We wanted to be able to keep the full inside
door open and use the screen door for ventilation and to keep the bugs
out. *We are having a late summer or and Indian summer here in the
Chicago area (Naperville). * I'll post whatever happens after I
contact Larson on Monday. *I do expect that they will reimburse me if
I send them the bill and the defective latch assembly.

Hi,
Because of one incidence you boycott a brand? My top of line Larson door
I installed 15 years ago is still working fine. I think they are good doors.
It took a beating when my two teenager kids were growing up.
Nothing broke yet on the door.

Since my son-in-law has a fine instrument machine shop with lots of
moulding capacity, I can have any broken metal parts duplicated with
choice of material.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They have stopped selling the type of latch assembly that was in my
door . The new one is different.. Perhaps because the design was
flawed?????

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information. Yours seems filled with nothing more than a snide, sarcastic comment. Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a DIY help kinda forum, Not a "proper spelling" or "English" class. So,To aid you in the future regarding your concern for proper use of letters that comprise the conventionally accepted form of a word and its punctuation, I've enclosed a generous supply of letters and punctuation marks to be used by you to fill in where necessary to satisfy your need for proper spelling so you wont have to post sarcastic remarks like the one you posted here. In the likely event you have any items left over, please feel to insert them right up your A$$.


qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm,.!@#$%^&**()_+?~.,
MNBVCXZLKJHGFDSAPOIUYTREWQ.,1230987654';":?!*)(

On Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 7:48:31 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on a
strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!


You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and put
the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information. Yours seems filled with nothing more than a snide, sarcastic comment. Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a DIY help kinda forum, Not a "proper spelling" or "English" class. So,To aid you in the future regarding your concern for proper use of letters that comprise the conventionally accepted form of a word and its punctuation, I've enclosed a generous supply of letters and punctuation marks to be used by you to fill in where necessary to satisfy your need for proper spelling so you wont have to post sarcastic remarks like the one you posted here. In the likely event you have any items left over, please feel to insert them right up your A$$.


qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm,.!@#$%^&**()_+?~.,
MNBVCXZLKJHGFDSAPOIUYTREWQ.,1230987654';":?!*)(

On 1/29/2016 11:00 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 7:48:31 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:
"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the
latching assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of
potting metal on a strategic piece of their door. I never buy
Larson again!!!!!


You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly
and put the 39.95 towards a new spell checker. BTW, they all use
cheap potted metal

Mr Pawlowski Generally replies offer useful helpful information.
Yours seems filled with nothing more than a snide, sarcastic comment.
Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a DIY help kinda forum, Not
a "proper spelling" or "English" class. So,To aid you in the future
regarding your concern for proper use of letters that comprise the
conventionally accepted form of a word and its punctuation, I've
enclosed a generous supply of letters and punctuation marks to be
used by you to fill in where necessary to satisfy your need for
proper spelling so you wont have to post sarcastic remarks like the
one you posted here. In the likely event you have any items left
over, please feel to insert them right up your A$$.


qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm,.!@#$%^&**()_+?~.,
MNBVCXZLKJHGFDSAPOIUYTREWQ.,1230987654';":?!*)(



Yes, Chagrin ****ed Up (we know your full nameg)

You certainly told him a thing or two. You have your work cut out for
you since you're running about 6½ years behind the times.

LOL!

On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:55:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information. Yours seems filled with nothing more than a snide, sarcastic comment. Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a DIY help kinda forum, Not a "proper spelling" or "English" class. So,To aid you in the future regarding your concern for proper use of letters that comprise the conventionally accepted form of a word and its punctuation, I've enclosed a generous supply of letters and punctuation marks to be used by you to fill in where necessary to satisfy your need for proper spelling so you wont have to post sarcastic remarks like the one you posted here. In the likely event you have any items left over, please feel to insert them right up your A$$.


qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm,.!@#$%^&**()_+?~.,
MNBVCXZLKJHGFDSAPOIUYTREWQ.,1230987654';":?!*)(

I'm still trying to find some useful information in your reply. The
only thing I found was snide and sarcastic comments.

Here's some useful information for you: Go **** yourself!

On 1/29/2016 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 7:48:31 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"hr(bob) " wrote in message
So, I ended up spending $39.50 including tax, to replace the latching
assembly because Larson used such a cheap piece of potting metal on a
strategic piece of their door. I never buy Larson again!!!!!


You could have waited until Monday, gotten a free handle assembly and put
the 39.95 towards a new spell checker.
BTW, they all use cheap potted metal

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information. Yours seems filled with nothing more than a snide, sarcastic comment.

Yes, I noticed that. I feel bad about it too. I've not slept well
since. I really feel bad about it. Honest. Can't lie because I went
to Catholic school.


Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a DIY help kinda forum, Not
a "proper spelling" or "English" class. So,To aid you in the future
regarding your concern for proper use of letters that comprise the
conventionally accepted form of a word and its punctuation, I've
enclosed a generous supply of letters and punctuation marks to be used
by you to fill in where necessary to satisfy your need for proper
spelling so you wont have to post sarcastic remarks like the one you
posted here. In the likely event you have any items left over, please
feel to insert them right up your A$$.


qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm,.!@#$%^&**()_+?~.,
MNBVCXZLKJHGFDSAPOIUYTREWQ.,1230987654;":?!*)(


Thank you for the assorted letters. I'm a product of 12 years of
Catholic schools and we were marked down for incorrect spelling so I
wanted to help you.. Most of the guys here apprecite it when I correct
their spleeing orrors. I'm good at it.

FYI. wont should be spelled won't. I took the apostrophe you included
in my gift letter collection and used it here to demonstrate how Sister
Cherubina would spell it. I will print out the rest and see if they fit
my anal orifice. I'll lube them in olive oil. I like Italian food.

Thank you for your gift. Much appreciated.

On 1/29/2016 4:21 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:55:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information.

I'm still trying to find some useful information in your reply. The
only thing I found was snide and sarcastic comments.

Here's some useful information for you: Go **** yourself!


I've known of Mr. Pawlowski to write sharply
now and again. As I have, also. So, we agree
the chagrin poster didn't add much to the
thread. Well, so goes usenet. Some folks don't
justify their oxygen. Notice, this reply isn't
racist. I didn't write wop, spic, hymie, fag,
slant *******, chinky, or any of those words.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/29/2016 5:09 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Thank you for the assorted letters. I'm a product of 12 years of
Catholic schools and we were marked down for incorrect spelling so I
wanted to help you.. Most of the guys here apprecite it when I correct
their spleeing orrors. I'm good at it.

FYI. wont should be spelled won't. I took the apostrophe you included
in my gift letter collection and used it here to demonstrate how Sister
Cherubina would spell it. I will print out the rest and see if they fit
my anal orifice. I'll lube them in olive oil. I like Italian food.

Thank you for your gift. Much appreciated.

Be sure to light a candle, eh?

Th'e us'e of apostrophe's reall'y needs carefu'l
consideratio'n.

I luf it wen you correct their speeling orror's.

--
..
Christophe'r A. Youn'g
learn more about Jesu's
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/29/2016 4:21 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:55:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information.

I'm still trying to find some useful information in your reply. The
only thing I found was snide and sarcastic comments.

Here's some useful information for you: Go **** yourself!


I've known of Mr. Pawlowski to write sharply
now and again. As I have, also. So, we agree
the chagrin poster didn't add much to the
thread. Well, so goes usenet. Some folks don't
justify their oxygen. Notice, this reply isn't
racist. I didn't write wop, spic, hymie, fag,
slant *******, chinky, or any of those words.

Ditto! Most NG has spell checker built-in. Matter of using it.
Some has real short temper(bad for high blood pressure). We have
mid-grade Larson storm door installed myself ~10 years ago. Nothing ever
broke other than renewing weather strip couple years ago.
What nice days we've been enjoying lately. Balmy +10C sunny days.

On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 10:09:12 PM UTC-6, Tony Hwang wrote:

Ditto! Most NG has spell checker built-in. Matter of using it.
Some has real short temper(bad for high blood pressure). We have
mid-grade Larson storm door installed myself ~10 years ago. Nothing ever
broke other than renewing weather strip couple years ago.
What nice days we've been enjoying lately. Balmy +10C sunny days.

Translation for Americans

Most NG's have a spell checker built-in. It's only a matter of using it. Some have a real short temper (which is bad for your blood pressure). We have a mid-grade Larson storm door I installed myself, 10 years ago. Nothing on it has ever broken. I only had to replace the weatherstripping a couple of years ago. We've been enjoying some nice days here lately. Balming, sunny, +10C days!

On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 22:57:36 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 1/29/2016 4:21 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:55:40 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Mr Pawlowski
Generally replies offer useful helpful information.

I'm still trying to find some useful information in your reply. The
only thing I found was snide and sarcastic comments.

Here's some useful information for you: Go **** yourself!


I've known of Mr. Pawlowski to write sharply
now and again. As I have, also. So, we agree
the chagrin poster didn't add much to the
thread. Well, so goes usenet. Some folks don't
justify their oxygen. Notice, this reply isn't
racist. I didn't write wop, spic, hymie, fag,
slant *******, chinky, or any of those words.

Don't give me this crap about your reply not being racist. You had the
perfect opportunity to use the "N" word in your above list of slurs
but you didn't. That IS racist and I am oh, so offended. You can't
even imagine how offended I am!

On 1/29/2016 11:09 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

We have
mid-grade Larson storm door installed myself ~10 years ago. Nothing ever
broke other than renewing weather strip couple years ago.
What nice days we've been enjoying lately. Balmy +10C sunny days.

I had a maybe to install a storm door,
years ago. Never did happen, sadly. Nice
that yours is working well. And that your
weather is good.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/29/2016 11:33 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 22:57:36 -0500, Stormin Mormon

I've known of Mr. Pawlowski to write sharply
now and again. As I have, also. So, we agree
the chagrin poster didn't add much to the
thread. Well, so goes usenet. Some folks don't
justify their oxygen. Notice, this reply isn't
racist. I didn't write wop, spic, hymie, fag,
slant *******, chinky, or any of those words.

Don't give me this crap about your reply not being racist. You had the
perfect opportunity to use the "N" word in your above list of slurs
but you didn't. That IS racist and I am oh, so offended. You can't
even imagine how offended I am!


I appear to be the victim of a vast news
group conspiracy. Damned if I do, and
damned if I don't. I'm upset, now, also.
Damn it.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 20:25:11 -0800 (PST), bob_villain
wrote:



Translation for Americans

Balming, sunny, +10C days!

Heh, heh. Anuther grammer orror.

On 1/29/2016 11:01 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Be sure to light a candle, eh?

Th'e us'e of apostrophe's reall'y needs carefu'l
consideratio'n.

I luf it wen you correct their speeling orror's.


Im' o'kay with that

On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:38:28 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 1/29/2016 11:33 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 22:57:36 -0500, Stormin Mormon

I've known of Mr. Pawlowski to write sharply
now and again. As I have, also. So, we agree
the chagrin poster didn't add much to the
thread. Well, so goes usenet. Some folks don't
justify their oxygen. Notice, this reply isn't
racist. I didn't write wop, spic, hymie, fag,
slant *******, chinky, or any of those words.

Don't give me this crap about your reply not being racist. You had the
perfect opportunity to use the "N" word in your above list of slurs
but you didn't. That IS racist and I am oh, so offended. You can't
even imagine how offended I am!


I appear to be the victim of a vast news
group conspiracy. Damned if I do, and
damned if I don't. I'm upset, now, also.
Damn it.

I'm glad I could help.

On 1/30/2016 10:27 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/29/2016 11:01 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Be sure to light a candle, eh?

Th'e us'e of apostrophe's reall'y needs carefu'l
consideratio'n.

I luf it wen you correct their speeling orror's.


Im' o'kay with that

Din't no yo wer Irish, Mr. O'Kay.

Pleasure to meet you while your so'ber.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/30/2016 10:47 AM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 08:38:28 -0500, Stormin Mormon
justify their oxygen. Notice, this reply isn't
racist. I didn't write wop, spic, hymie, fag,
slant *******, chinky, or any of those words.

Don't give me this crap about your reply not being racist. You had the
perfect opportunity to use the "N" word in your above list of slurs
but you didn't. That IS racist and I am oh, so offended. You can't
even imagine how offended I am!


I appear to be the victim of a vast news
group conspiracy. Damned if I do, and
damned if I don't. I'm upset, now, also.
Damn it.

I'm glad I could help.


You appear to know how to get my morning
off to a roaring start. My blood pressure
is way up. I'm about to have a racist
moment. Yep, my pulse is racist right along,
bit too fast.
--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..