DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in medical
bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires and shooting
themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.

The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation figures
show.

more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595342

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:28:12 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in medical
bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires and shooting
themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.

The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation figures
show.

more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595342

Damn, I'm glad I don't live down there where it's dangerous. I know I
can safely finish my kitchen remodel and I won't get hurt anymore...
once the bleeding stops... and the bones knit. At least that's what
the firemen sad as the were leaving.

Gordon Shumway

Amazing what you can do with a little creative wording.

"An average of 11 people died each week from accidents in their homes
in the year to the end of June - an annual total of 573."

I'd be willing to bet that "accidents in their homes" includes
everything from falling in their showers to drowning in their swimming
pools...

On Sep 5, 4:26*am, Larry The Snake Guy wrote:
Amazing what you can do with a little creative wording.

"An average of 11 people died each week from accidents in their homes
in the year to the end of June - an annual total of 573."

I'd be willing to bet that "accidents in their homes" includes
everything from falling in their showers to drowning in their swimming
pools...

The article (From New Zealand) made it pretty clear that it was
accidents involving ALL types of household activities; not only those
which are generally considered 'Do it yourself home repairs'. They
included insect sprays, garden activity such as pruning a tree branch,
cutting fingers preparing food and/or burns in the kitchen.

One paragraph reads "ACC will be targeting home handymen - among
others - during safety week, ....... ". And also mentions 25,000 (NZ)
'Insect injuries'.

So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear. There was no mention pf
staying in bed all the time; maybe that is a safe activity (conducted
alone)? Watch that back and to not stubbing your toes on the foot of
the bed; and also apart from not developing bed sores.

stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was taken
in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".

DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in
medical bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires
and shooting themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.
The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation
figures show.
more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...objectid=10595
342

No matter how hard you try to scare DIY people, they will continue to
do their own work because they CANNOT afford to have contractors do
everything for them. Well, maybe Bill Gates can afford it, but regular
people CANNOT.

Metspitzer wrote in
news
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in medical
bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires and shooting
themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.

The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation figures
show.

more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595342


How can this be,I thought NZ had gun control ???

;-)


Maybe it's because they are "down under".....

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Metspitzer wrote:
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in medical
bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires and shooting
themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.

The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation figures
show.

more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595342


This may not be the most credible place to read this, but it really did
happen, I lived close at the time and heard it on the radio news then
again on TV news.

http://forums.aliensoup.com/showthread.php?t=3143

" wrote:

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was taken
in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".

Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure disorder
that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to determine
that... not.

Jim Elbrecht wrote:

stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

Yes, in all probability is propaganda drummed up by unions that are
scared because people are learning how to do things themselves and
realizing that it's not that difficult.

Pete C. wrote:
" wrote:

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV
with spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet----
and none have been DIY guys.

Jim

It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was
taken in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".

Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure
disorder that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to
determine that... not.

I watched a guy on a chipper crew pushing branches in with his foot while
standing on the chute. His pushing foot was within inches of the feed cogs.
Until his "boss" yelled at him, that is.

Bert Byfield wrote:
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in
medical bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires
and shooting themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.
The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation
figures show.
more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...objectid=10595
342

No matter how hard you try to scare DIY people, they will continue to
do their own work because they CANNOT afford to have contractors do
everything for them. Well, maybe Bill Gates can afford it, but regular
people CANNOT.

Some do it because they want it done right. Or just because it what's they like
to do.

Plenty of pros have accidents too.

On Sep 4, 11:28*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in medical
bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires and shooting
themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.

The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation figures
show.

more.....http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595342

Especialy deep frying a turkey in the garage.

Pete C. wrote:
" wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.
Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim
It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was taken
in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".

Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure disorder
that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to determine
that... not.

As a retired occupational health nurse, I know folks have many creative
ways of harming themselves unintentionally....absolutely cannot fathom
doing the "death-by-chipper" thing as suicide. I know a guy with one
arm who reached into a huge paper baler to un-jam it; know another guy
who tried the same move and escaped with a very serious but superficial
laceration. Gad....the one department I never wanted to get a call from )

Pete C. wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.
Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

Yes, in all probability is propaganda drummed up by unions that are
scared because people are learning how to do things themselves and
realizing that it's not that difficult.

There was a death in Florida a year or two ago...guy using a grinder,
wheel broke and severed an artery in his neck. Tipping riding mowers or
running over kids. Our condo building had a second-story sliding glass
door broken by rock thrown from mower - it sounded like the wall had
been hit by a cannon.

From the old days of working in operating room...toes chopped up/off by
mowers going backwards. Friend's father who, just after retiring, got
interested in woodworking - bought fancy shop equipment and lost four
fingers.

"Pete C." wrote in
ster.com:


" wrote:

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was taken
in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".

Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure disorder
that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to determine
that... not.

yeah,how do you autopsy hamburger? yecchhh!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Bert Byfield wrote:
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in
medical bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires
and shooting themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.
The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation
figures show.
more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...objectid=10595
342

No matter how hard you try to scare DIY people, they will continue to
do their own work because they CANNOT afford to have contractors do
everything for them. Well, maybe Bill Gates can afford it, but regular
people CANNOT.


Oh no, I see a new federal mandate coming "DIY Insurance".
Citizens, er, subjects will not be allowed to do any work
for themselves without a federally approved DIY insurance
policy and inspections from the Department of Household
Safety and Security. I suppose it could be called
"OH BUMMER CARE".

TDD

"Pete C." wrote in
ster.com:


Jim Elbrecht wrote:

stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.

Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim

Yes, in all probability is propaganda drummed up by unions that are
scared because people are learning how to do things themselves and
realizing that it's not that difficult.

I've certainly saved a lot of money buying autoparts online and installing
them myself.
I saved $300 buying a ball joint and replacing it myself,when mechanics
would only replace the entire lower control arm;quotes of $400 for the
whole job. (03 Nissan Sentra SpecV) The ball joint cost $15,and I borrowed
the press tool from Advance Auto(at no charge),and bought a few other tools
myself.

Next,the mass air flow sensor died,local cost $300 for the entire air flow
assembly,remanufactured,OR $400 from the dealer new,I got a new sensor for
$89 online.

What a racket....

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Bob F wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
" wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.
Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV
with spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet----
and none have been DIY guys.

Jim
It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was
taken in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".
Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure
disorder that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to
determine that... not.

I watched a guy on a chipper crew pushing branches in with his foot while
standing on the chute. His pushing foot was within inches of the feed cogs.
Until his "boss" yelled at him, that is.



Boss shoulda fired his ass on the spot, as an example to everyone else
on the crew. Or at least sent him home for a day without pay. I grew up
on construction sites, so the big yellow iron doesn't scare me. But you
do have to treat it with respect. Industrial equipment will kill you in
a heartbeat, and it won't even clog or slow down in most cases. My
father was the one running most of the sites I worked on, either
directly or as the company owner. Safe work practices was something he
was always a real hardass about.

--
aem sends...

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message

yeah,how do you autopsy hamburger? yecchhh!

--

The deceased was 75% lean.

aemeijers wrote:
Bob F wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
" wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.
Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV
with spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet----
and none have been DIY guys.

Jim
It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was
taken in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".
Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure
disorder that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to
determine that... not.

I watched a guy on a chipper crew pushing branches in with his foot
while standing on the chute. His pushing foot was within inches of the
feed cogs. Until his "boss" yelled at him, that is.



Boss shoulda fired his ass on the spot, as an example to everyone else
on the crew. Or at least sent him home for a day without pay. I grew up
on construction sites, so the big yellow iron doesn't scare me. But you
do have to treat it with respect. Industrial equipment will kill you in
a heartbeat, and it won't even clog or slow down in most cases. My
father was the one running most of the sites I worked on, either
directly or as the company owner. Safe work practices was something he
was always a real hardass about.

--
aem sends...


I was downtown shopping a while back, driving very slowly through area
with sewer construction being done. Four lane street normally, down to
two because of constr. There was a front loader - thingy with a scoop
like a steam shovel on the front - in second lane from curb and the
excavation was in the lane next to the curb. Traffic was stop and
start, so I watched the operator digging down into the trench. The
machine was alongside the deep trench, so he was digging alongside his
rig, not facing toward the trench. Each time he took a scoop, the
machine tipped toward the trench. He was scaring me to death, and it
was a young hispanic guy, so I parked as soon as I could and found
someone who looked like they might be in authority (older guy with hard
hat). I told the other guy what I had seen and he asked if I thought it
to be a safety hazard. I told him it did. I wasn't pleased with his
reply, so I went over to the construction trailer a couple of blocks
away and asked to talk with the person in charge. The clerk went into
the office, and out came the supervisor, along with the guy I had first
talked to. He was very terse, said things were under control. I didn't
think heavy machinery was supposed to tip while operating )

Jim Yanik wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in
ster.com:

" wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
stan wrote:

-snip-
So why DIY got such a bad rap is unclear.
Maybe the construction trades were behind it? As far as shooting
yourself with a nailgun. . . I've seen dozens of these guys on TV with
spectacular close-calls. Nails in hands & heads & feet---- and none
have been DIY guys.

Jim
It wasn't DIY, but I read recently about a guy in Indiana who was taken
in by a chipper, a la "Fargo".
Yea, I read that story. Having spent some time with wood chippers of
that size, I'm not buying the accident part. My take is suicide by
chipper so his family can collect on his life insurance and keep the
house. The only other possibility would be some sort of seizure disorder
that disabled him. Of course the autopsy should be able to determine
that... not.

yeah,how do you autopsy hamburger? yecchhh!


Probably enough to check for drug residue.

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Oh no, I see a new federal mandate coming "DIY Insurance".
Citizens, er, subjects will not be allowed to do any work
for themselves without a federally approved DIY insurance
policy and inspections from the Department of Household
Safety and Security. I suppose it could be called
"OH BUMMER CARE".


Libertarian!

The DIY insurance will be mandated, even for those who do not want to do
home repairs or who may even be prohibited from doing repairs because they
live in nursing homes, apartments, or jails.

"Metspitzer" wrote in message
news
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in medical
bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires and shooting
themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.

The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation figures
show.

more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10595342

We need more laws. More lawyers. Expensive government studies. That
should put a stop to it. (according to some philosophies)

Steve, who's all for thinning of the herd and Darwinism.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

The DIY insurance will be mandated, even for those who do not want to do
home repairs or who may even be prohibited from doing repairs because they
live in nursing homes, apartments, or jails.


Bad as that is, reality is they may make us hire licensed bulb changers and
circuit breaker resetters. Hammers over 12 oz. will be illegal.

"Bob F" wrote in
:

Bert Byfield wrote:
DIY handymen are costing hundreds of millions of dollars in
medical bills by putting up wobbly scaffolds, touching live wires
and shooting themselves in the hands and feet with nail guns.
The traditional weekend activity is turning the home into the most
dangerous place to be, new Accident Compensation Corporation
figures show.
more.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...objectid=10595
342

No matter how hard you try to scare DIY people, they will continue to
do their own work because they CANNOT afford to have contractors do
everything for them. Well, maybe Bill Gates can afford it, but
regular people CANNOT.

Some do it because they want it done right. Or just because it what's
they like to do.

....or both.

A couple of weeks ago I watched a "crew" of a so called home repair
business put a roof on a house. Stripped old shingle off, only the
shingles, and put new shingles on. Yep, right over the old dried out torn
paper.


Plenty of pros have accidents too.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
The DIY insurance will be mandated, even for those who do not want to do
home repairs or who may even be prohibited from doing repairs because they
live in nursing homes, apartments, or jails.


Bad as that is, reality is they may make us hire licensed bulb changers and
circuit breaker resetters. Hammers over 12 oz. will be illegal.



Are you referring to the Assault Hammers?

TDD