On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:33:24 -0400, against all advice, something
compelled "Stormin Mormon" ,
to say:

crosspost removed

Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


That's not a binary choice.




--

Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will
have to ram it down their throats.
- Howard Aiken

In article , "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven?

Of course we do.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?

I've never met a Catholic who "cried all day with endless guilt". I don't
know where people get the idea that Catholics are on some kind of guilt
trip--few of them that I have ever met are.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a
devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus
Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His
Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with
his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project he
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow

J. Clarke wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?

I've never met a Catholic who "cried all day with endless guilt". I don't
know where people get the idea that Catholics are on some kind of guilt
trip--few of them that I have ever met are.


Heck I cried all day when I was sent to the Catholic Parochial
Gulag by my parents. I often tell people that I have absolutely
no fear of terrorists because as a small boy, I had Irish nuns
for teachers. *snicker*

TDD

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one should
not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is above and what
is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence the
hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a better world.

HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one should
not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is above and what
is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence the
hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a better world.



What makes you think you can do something to make this a better world?

I wonder that, and also why people think that their earthly
actions have no effect on their eternal glory (or lack
thereof).

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...

What makes you think you can do something to make this a
better world?

In article , " wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one should
not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is above and what
is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence the
hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a better world.



What makes you think you can do something to make this a better world?

Oh, come on, that's easy. Volunteer at a soup kitchen. Donate food and
clothing to a shelter for battered women. Teach someone to read. Raise your
children to be respectful and kind. Use your turn signal. Say "Please" and
"Thank you." Smile. Hold the door open for an old man with a cane.

I could go on, but hopefully you get the idea.

wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one
should not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is
above and what is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence
the hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a
better world.

What makes you think you can do something to make this a better world?

Experience.

If you're hungry, I can give you a sandwich. If you need to rest, you can
use my couch. If you need a job, I can make some calls. I can donate blood,
pay my taxes (some of which help make this a better world), kill a rat,
smile at a child, enjoy a kitten, write to my congressman, and, in a
thousand small ways, do something every day.

HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one should
not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is above and what
is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence the
hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a better world.


No, the simple reason for the admonition is to trivialize anyone who has
beliefs. Can you offer proof using standard rules of logic that there is
"nothing"?

George wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one
should not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is
above and what is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence
the hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a
better world.


No, the simple reason for the admonition is to trivialize anyone who
has beliefs. Can you offer proof using standard rules of logic that
there is "nothing"?

So it is your belief that some action on your part can result in a change in
God's plan?

George wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on which one
should not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what is
above and what is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot influence
the hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this a
better world.
No, the simple reason for the admonition is to trivialize anyone who
has beliefs. Can you offer proof using standard rules of logic that
there is "nothing"?

I never said there was "nothing." The hereafter simply doesn't influence me.

By the simple standard rules of logic, I can say that we MIGHT be closer to
world peace, a cure for cancer, or eliminating male pattern baldness had not
some really great intellects applied themselves to endeavors other than
ruminating on how many angles could dance on the head of a pin.

The New Testament says that the streets of heaven are paved with gold.
Whether they're paved with gold or whether they're paved with mud, they are
what they are and none of our piety or wit can cancel half a line. We are of
THIS world, not the world to come.

But, and this is a big "but," to the degree that any faith inspires and
comforts, any activity that promotes that faith and belief is,
intrinsically, good. Any religion that promotes charity, good works,
justice, respect, protection of the weak and chastisement for the wicked is
a good and holy road to God - even if it digresses from time to time to
contemplate angles and pins.

I've got to disagree with that concept. Of course, a person
can affect what comes after death. That's the entire reason
for repentance, commandments, acts of service, etc. Even a
few Non-Mormons understand that concept.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Do you ever spend time pondering the resurrected Lord, and
the blessings of eternal life in Heaven? Or do you just
cry
all day with endless guilt?


Neither. A great sage once said: "There are four things on
which one should
not dwell: What came before and what will come after, what
is above and what
is below."

The simple reason for this admonition is that one cannot
influence the
hereafter. One can, however, do something today to make this
a better world.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've got to disagree with that concept. Of course, a person
can affect what comes after death. That's the entire reason
for repentance, commandments, acts of service, etc. Even a
few Non-Mormons understand that concept.

If you're doing something because you think it will get you into heaven or
keep you out of Hell you're doing it for the wrong reason.

Very nice and especially the Eagle Scout accomplishment!

Congrats from a long time Scouter and the father of two Eagles.

I have been told that the only two activities specifically asked about on
the application to any Military academy are "Are you an Eagle Scout, Did you
attend Boys State?"

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal
Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended
to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It
consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning
with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being
laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project he
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer
helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the
lumber
used in this project.

In article , "Ed Ahern" wrote:
Congrats from a long time Scouter and the father of two Eagles.

Thank you.

I have been told that the only two activities specifically asked about on
the application to any Military academy are "Are you an Eagle Scout, Did you
attend Boys State?"

My son is two-for-two there -- and wanted to attend the Naval Academy.
He applied and was admitted, pending Congressional nomination. He applied for,
and received, a full-ride NROTC scholarship to the university of his choice.
Unfortunately, he was DQed from both on medical grounds. He's healthy as a
horse, with one exception: an anaphylactic allergic reaction to shellfish.


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal
Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project he
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the
lumber used in this project.

"Ed Ahern" wrote:

Congrats from a long time Scouter and the father of two Eagles.

I have been told that the only two activities specifically asked about on
the application to any Military academy are "Are you an Eagle Scout, Did you
attend Boys State?"

Some years ago, I was chatting with a Scout who was just back from his first
semester at the Air Force Academy. I asked him if it gave him an edge, being
an Eagle. He said "Nah. It's pretty much expected." -- Doug

"Douglas Johnson" wrote in message
...
"Ed Ahern" wrote:

Congrats from a long time Scouter and the father of two Eagles.

I have been told that the only two activities specifically asked about on
the application to any Military academy are "Are you an Eagle Scout, Did
you
attend Boys State?"

Some years ago, I was chatting with a Scout who was just back from his
first
semester at the Air Force Academy. I asked him if it gave him an edge,
being
an Eagle. He said "Nah. It's pretty much expected." -- Doug

Congrats on your son's achievement...You should be very proud...Don't let
the idiots get you down....

Speaking of Boys Scouts acheivements...

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stori....589eac0f.html

This happened locally within the last few days. I bet there are some proud
mothers and fathers on this one. An example of a training exercise suddenly
turning into the real thing.

Doug Miller wrote:
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project he
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the lumber
used in this project.



First of all, congratulations to A.J. especially, but also to you and
Mrs. Miller, as well as the volunteers who helped with this thing. It
takes a lot of perseverence to see something like that all the way
through, so kudos to all of you.

I don't know much about Eagle Scouts, but from what I've read they are
kids who have a special knack for seeing things through, as this project
indicates.

I do, however, know a bit about Catholics, and it's an area I chose to
leave a lot of years ago for reasons no one cares about except me. At
this point in my life, I'm either an apathetic agnostic or an aging
atheist - take your pick. The key A word there is apathetic. I just
don't much care one way or the other. This, BTW is not the start of a
discussion on that. Engage me on it, and I'll just ignore it.

What does straigten out my pubes tho is evangelising on both sides of
that believer/atheist line. Some days I think the atheists or agnostics
are worse than the evangelical nutbars that are out to save the world
with their "true" faith.

Doug Miller and his family are not ramming religion or Catholicism down
your throats. Doug explained the meaning of the project within the
church and left it at that. They did something that has merit, took
time and effort and conquered boredom and fatigue. 14 stations is a hell
of a lot of work. It's certainly not OT for the Wreck, and I guess it
got cross posted for Doug's other interests.

Comments decrying the Catholic Church and religion in this context are
rude, inconsiderate and off topic in themselves. Comments like that
indicate your own insecurities and generally tend to bring the bar down
in a discusson group. "Tend", I say because the other tendency when that
happens is that assholes get a new one reamed by the other folks who are
as offended by those kinds of remarks as I am.

Generally, Doug and his family got great responses from people who more
or less left the religion thing alone, which is how it should be.

But some folks just gotta **** on other people's shoes.

Sorry for the long post.

Tanus

On Jul 19, 8:02*pm, Tanus wrote:
Doug Miller wrote:
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project he
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...albumview=slid....

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the lumber
used in this project.

First of all, congratulations to A.J. *especially, but also to you and
Mrs. Miller, as well as the volunteers who helped with this thing. It
takes a lot of perseverence to see something like that all the way
through, so kudos to all of you.

I don't know much about Eagle Scouts, but from what I've read they are
kids who have a special knack for seeing things through, as this project
indicates.

I do, however, know a bit about Catholics, and it's an area I chose to
leave a lot of years ago for reasons no one cares about except me. At
this point in my life, I'm either an apathetic agnostic or an aging
atheist - take your pick. The key A word there is apathetic. I just
don't much care one way or the other. This, BTW is not the start of a
discussion on that. Engage me on it, and I'll just ignore it.

What does straigten out my pubes tho is evangelising on both sides of
that believer/atheist line. Some days I think the atheists or agnostics
are worse than the evangelical nutbars that are out to save the world
with their "true" faith.

Doug Miller and his family are not ramming religion or Catholicism down
your throats. Doug explained the meaning of the project within the
church and left it at that. *They did something that has merit, took
time and effort and conquered boredom and fatigue. 14 stations is a hell
of a lot of work. It's certainly not OT for the Wreck, and I guess it
got cross posted for Doug's other interests.

Comments decrying the Catholic Church and religion in this context are
rude, inconsiderate and off topic in themselves. Comments like that
indicate your own insecurities and generally tend to bring the bar down
in a discusson group. "Tend", I say because the other tendency when that
happens is that assholes get a new one reamed by the other folks who are
as offended by those kinds of remarks as I am.

Generally, Doug and his family got great responses from people who more
or less left the religion thing alone, which is how it should be.

But some folks just gotta **** on other people's shoes.

Sorry for the long post.

Ditto to everything Tanus said. Congratulations to AJ and all the
others involved in the project. And Doug has reason to be proud.

Luigi

In article , Tanus wrote:

First of all, congratulations to A.J. especially, but also to you and
Mrs. Miller, as well as the volunteers who helped with this thing. It
takes a lot of perseverence to see something like that all the way
through, so kudos to all of you.

I don't know much about Eagle Scouts, but from what I've read they are
kids who have a special knack for seeing things through, as this project
indicates.

I do, however, know a bit about Catholics, and it's an area I chose to
leave a lot of years ago for reasons no one cares about except me. At
this point in my life, I'm either an apathetic agnostic or an aging
atheist - take your pick. The key A word there is apathetic. I just
don't much care one way or the other. This, BTW is not the start of a
discussion on that. Engage me on it, and I'll just ignore it.

What does straigten out my pubes tho is evangelising on both sides of
that believer/atheist line. Some days I think the atheists or agnostics
are worse than the evangelical nutbars that are out to save the world
with their "true" faith.

Doug Miller and his family are not ramming religion or Catholicism down
your throats. Doug explained the meaning of the project within the
church and left it at that. They did something that has merit, took
time and effort and conquered boredom and fatigue. 14 stations is a hell
of a lot of work. It's certainly not OT for the Wreck, and I guess it
got cross posted for Doug's other interests.

Comments decrying the Catholic Church and religion in this context are
rude, inconsiderate and off topic in themselves. Comments like that
indicate your own insecurities and generally tend to bring the bar down
in a discusson group. "Tend", I say because the other tendency when that
happens is that assholes get a new one reamed by the other folks who are
as offended by those kinds of remarks as I am.

Generally, Doug and his family got great responses from people who more
or less left the religion thing alone, which is how it should be.

But some folks just gotta **** on other people's shoes.

Sorry for the long post.

NP. Well said, and thank you.

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:02:48 -0400, Tanus wrote Re
Eagle Scout project complete!:

Sorry for the long post.

Tanus

It was a good on-topic post. No need to apologize.
--
I filter all messages from google groups.

Doug Miller wrote:
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project he
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...view=slideshow

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the lumber
used in this project.



Doug, you have a fine young man for a son, anyone
who says different is a jerk. I wish there were
many more young folks like you son out there. I
understand your pride and your wish to share it.
You have every right to brag, perhaps you had a
little bit to do with it. *snicker*

TDD

In article , wrote:

Doug, you have a fine young man for a son, anyone
who says different is a jerk. I wish there were
many more young folks like you son out there. I
understand your pride and your wish to share it.

Thank you.

You have every right to brag, perhaps you had a
little bit to do with it. *snicker*

I actually had very little to do with the project. My role could be described
as "technical consultant" perhaps -- things like suggesting that reducing the
planned width of the box by 1/4" made it possible to cut all fourteen backs
out of one sheet of plywood instead of two; likewise for the plexiglass
fronts. I showed him how to plan his cuts on the table saw to minimize the
need to change setups. I told him he ought to use stainless steel nails, not
galvanized, in cedar, and why. I showed him how to make simple jigs to make
sure cuts were made, and holes were drilled, in consistent repeatable
locations.

But he came up with the idea, he planned the project, he raised the funds, he
bought the materials (or arranged for them to be donated), he made *all* the
saw cuts, he organized the team of volunteers to assemble the boxes, he
directed them. He made sure the "Call Before You Dig" folks marked the area so
the post-hole auger wouldn't hit any buried utilities. He talked the owner of
a construction company into drilling the holes for him, and showed him where
to drill the holes, and how deep. He supervised the final assembly and
installation of all fourteen stations. He hired a local engraving company to
make the brass "In memory of..." plaques, and kept careful track of who had
endowed which station, to make sure the plaques wound up on the right posts.

Yes, I "had a little bit to do with it." Literally a little bit. But it was
his project. Not mine.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article , wrote:

Doug, you have a fine young man for a son, anyone
who says different is a jerk. I wish there were
many more young folks like you son out there. I
understand your pride and your wish to share it.

Thank you.

You have every right to brag, perhaps you had a
little bit to do with it. *snicker*

I actually had very little to do with the project. My role could be described
as "technical consultant" perhaps -- things like suggesting that reducing the
planned width of the box by 1/4" made it possible to cut all fourteen backs
out of one sheet of plywood instead of two; likewise for the plexiglass
fronts. I showed him how to plan his cuts on the table saw to minimize the
need to change setups. I told him he ought to use stainless steel nails, not
galvanized, in cedar, and why. I showed him how to make simple jigs to make
sure cuts were made, and holes were drilled, in consistent repeatable
locations.

But he came up with the idea, he planned the project, he raised the funds, he
bought the materials (or arranged for them to be donated), he made *all* the
saw cuts, he organized the team of volunteers to assemble the boxes, he
directed them. He made sure the "Call Before You Dig" folks marked the area so
the post-hole auger wouldn't hit any buried utilities. He talked the owner of
a construction company into drilling the holes for him, and showed him where
to drill the holes, and how deep. He supervised the final assembly and
installation of all fourteen stations. He hired a local engraving company to
make the brass "In memory of..." plaques, and kept careful track of who had
endowed which station, to make sure the plaques wound up on the right posts.

Yes, I "had a little bit to do with it." Literally a little bit. But it was
his project. Not mine.

Well, what I meant was the creation of the outstanding young man.
Get it now? ROFL

TDD

In article , wrote:

Well, what I meant was the creation of the outstanding young man.
Get it now? ROFL

I do. Sorry I misunderstood your meaning.

On Jul 18, 8:05*pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project hehttp://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...albumview=slid...

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the lumber
used in this project.

On Jul 22, 6:40*pm, RonB wrote:
On Jul 18, 8:05*pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:

My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project hehttp://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...albumview=slid...

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the lumber
used in this project.

100 posts and well deserved. Not many make rank of Eagle and those
who do deserve congratulations.

Congratulations!!!

RonB

On Jul 18, 8:05�pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
My son A.J. finished his Eagle Scout project today: construction and
installation of the Stations of the Cross on the grounds of Cardinal Ritter
High School (his alma mater) and St. Michael's Catholic Church here in
Indianapolis.

(Note to non-Catholics: the Stations of the Cross is a devotional intended to
encourage meditation on the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ. It consists
of fourteen icons depicting various events during His Passion, beginning with
his condemnation by Pilate, leading up to and ending with his body being laid
in the tomb.)

Photos of the completed project hehttp://s663.photobucket.com/albums/u...albumview=slid...

Project concept, design, and management by my son.
Scrollsaw work by my wife.
Construction and installation by my son and over a dozen volunteer helpers.
Special thanks to Carter-Lee Lumber Company of Indianapolis
www.carterlee.com for their very generous donation of *all* of the lumber
used in this project.

Very nice! Congratulations on the project. Quite a woodworker you
have there. I imagine he is quite helpful in DIY repairs, with such
skills.

I see a lot of negativity from a couple of people in here. It seems
to me to be an on-topic item, moreso given the actual nature of the
group. Remember, "Non illegitimi carborundum" (in actual Latin "Noli
nothi permittere te terere") Don't let them wear you down.

For those protesting, look at the nature of the group. Have you
responded to other perceived off-topic posts in the same way? There
are plenty to be found in this group. Perhaps it was that this
project (involving DIY skills) was religious in nature and that
angered you? Remember that, even if the Constitution required the
separation of church and state (it doesn't), it certainly says nothing
about separation oc church and usenet.