"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
bob haller wrote:

anyone who smokes doesnt care about their health.

tobacco should pay for all adverse health effects.

We do. A recent study found that the health costs for smokers is far, FAR
outweighed by the money the government saves in Social Security benefits
due to earlier deaths.

If the government had any sense, the best plan to "save" social security
they could promote is one that encourages smoking.

But, of course, that would disrupt the mass movement against smoking and
what would those poor mindless people do? We've saved the whales,
eliminated nuclear power, burnt the bras, and elected a progressive.

Banning smoking is the only mass movement left that gives meaning to many
folks otherwise meaningless lives. You see, people mind their own business
when it is worth minding. When it's not, they take their mind off their
own irrelevant affairs by minding other peoples' business. That, in
essence, is the purpose of the anti-smoking campaign.


You forgot the real reason...Government provided "free health care" which
will come with healthy lifestyle requirements....They are just warming up on
smokers...Fatties and drunks will be next in the long list of vices that
will need to be controlled , for our own good , of course...It's all about
controll....True socialism can only be achieved by the business end of a gun
which is why the same usefull idiots want to take YOUR guns so you have no
means to resist...

...."and when they came for me , there was no one left to speak up"....

"BobR" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 6:46 pm, "olddog" wrote:
"bob haller" wrote in message

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On Apr 18, 11:36?am, Nate Nagel wrote:





HeyBub wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

Simply stand under the turbine with a stick of incense
You misspelled "lit cigarette," cowboy. We'll let it go this time,
but
jeez, be careful with the man image, there.

My bad.

I smoke like a chimney, but I thank Obama for raising the taxes on 60
million Americans, virtually all making less than $240,000. It
inspired
me
to import my cigarettes from India (real "Indian" smokes) at about 50?
a
pack. Rumor has it I can get them from North Korea even cheaper.

As bad as Reds are for you, you have to wonder what kind of fillers etc.
are used in smokes from countries that are not so tightly regulated and
litigious as the US.

nate

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anyone who smokes doesnt care about their health.

tobacco should pay for all adverse health effects.

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same could be said about people who drink or eat at McDonalds.

where would it end?

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Maybe it would end with people taking better care of their health and
it might just save a few billion dollars in the process not to mention
something on the order of 100,000 lives per year.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

No argument here.....We covered this last year I think.

od

olddog wrote:
"bob haller" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 11:36?am, Nate Nagel wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:
Simply stand under the turbine with a stick of incense
You misspelled "lit cigarette," cowboy. We'll let it go this time, but
jeez, be careful with the man image, there.
My bad.
I smoke like a chimney, but I thank Obama for raising the taxes on 60
million Americans, virtually all making less than $240,000. It inspired
me
to import my cigarettes from India (real "Indian" smokes) at about 50? a
pack. Rumor has it I can get them from North Korea even cheaper.
As bad as Reds are for you, you have to wonder what kind of fillers etc.
are used in smokes from countries that are not so tightly regulated and
litigious as the US.

nate

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anyone who smokes doesnt care about their health.

tobacco should pay for all adverse health effects.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

same could be said about people who drink or eat at McDonalds.

where would it end?

od


Or those who fart in elevators, they have a death wish.

TDD

HeyBub wrote:
bob haller wrote:
anyone who smokes doesnt care about their health.

tobacco should pay for all adverse health effects.

We do. A recent study found that the health costs for smokers is far, FAR
outweighed by the money the government saves in Social Security benefits due
to earlier deaths.

If the government had any sense, the best plan to "save" social security
they could promote is one that encourages smoking.

But, of course, that would disrupt the mass movement against smoking and
what would those poor mindless people do? We've saved the whales, eliminated
nuclear power, burnt the bras, and elected a progressive.

Banning smoking is the only mass movement left that gives meaning to many
folks otherwise meaningless lives. You see, people mind their own business
when it is worth minding. When it's not, they take their mind off their own
irrelevant affairs by minding other peoples' business. That, in essence, is
the purpose of the anti-smoking campaign.

We had a state attorney general remark that he was glad
people smoked because they would die sooner saving the
state a lot on retirement benefits.

TDD

BobR wrote:
On Apr 18, 7:38 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

Simply stand under the turbine with a stick of incense

You misspelled "lit cigarette," cowboy. We'll let it go this time,
but jeez, be careful with the man image, there.

My bad.

I smoke like a chimney, but I thank Obama for raising the taxes on 60
million Americans, virtually all making less than $240,000. It
inspired me to import my cigarettes from India (real "Indian"
smokes) at about 50¢ a pack. Rumor has it I can get them from North
Korea even cheaper.

You're right. It's been 19 years since there was an increase of any kind in
federal taxes. The recent increase must have been in the works for some time
and just coincidentally came to fruition during Obama's first 100 days.

My apologies.


Obama didn't raise those taxes. He couldn't have since he promised he
wouldn't raise taxes in any form that would apply to people making
less than 200,000 per years. So you must be wrong about Obama raising
those taxes.

HeyBub wrote:
Clot wrote:

(Snip)

You'll love this (from another group)

THESE UK MEN NEED SUPERVISION!

* Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the first man to walk across Anartica and
holder of medals for polar expeditions,

* Sir Robin Knox-Johnston was the first man to sail singlehanded and
non-stop around the globe, and in 1994 won the Jules Verne Trophy for
the fastest circumnavigation of the world by yacht.

* John Simpson has been shelled in Afghanistan, bombed with poison
gas in the Iran-Iraq war and dodged bullets in Tiananmen Square.

The BBC required the men to take classes on how to light and operate a
propane stove.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-accident.html

Thanks for that. I hadn't come across it. Sadly, it doesn't surprise me.

I'm in the midst of helping to arrange a Mayday Carnival (its 30th year and
I've personally been involved in for 25). Over the years, the requirements
of the local authority for risk assessments, hygiene certificates and a host
of other requirements are such that we produce a thick lever arched file for
the authority.

There is now a post in the local authority employing a bozo to ask stupid
questions and block any initiatives. Simply removing the post would help but
in these precautious times (and local empires), no one has publicly stated
this!

HeyBub wrote:
Clot wrote:

Snipped


THESE UK MEN NEED SUPERVISION!

* Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the first man to walk across Anartica and
holder of medals for polar expeditions,

* Sir Robin Knox-Johnston was the first man to sail singlehanded and
non-stop around the globe, and in 1994 won the Jules Verne Trophy for
the fastest circumnavigation of the world by yacht.

* John Simpson has been shelled in Afghanistan, bombed with poison
gas in the Iran-Iraq war and dodged bullets in Tiananmen Square.

The BBC required the men to take classes on how to light and operate a
propane stove.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-accident.html

At last!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6122296.ece

There is a product that amounts to a drip edge to be installed
during the roof job. It has a vent space on the underside, only
causing it to extend out a little further, still directing water into
the gutter. So it functions as a soffit vent.
I haven't checked lately, but the number 1-800-ROOFING is
likely to still be a way to check with Owens Corning about
questions and available products and distributors.


On Apr 18, 9:40*am, Han wrote:
Michael B wrote in news:7b0d98b0-530c-4686-a089-
:

Make sure you've got good soffit venting, too.

What to do when there are no soffits to speak of?

--
Best regards
Han
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Clot wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Clot wrote:
(Snip)
You'll love this (from another group)

THESE UK MEN NEED SUPERVISION!

* Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the first man to walk across Anartica and
holder of medals for polar expeditions,

* Sir Robin Knox-Johnston was the first man to sail singlehanded and
non-stop around the globe, and in 1994 won the Jules Verne Trophy for
the fastest circumnavigation of the world by yacht.

* John Simpson has been shelled in Afghanistan, bombed with poison
gas in the Iran-Iraq war and dodged bullets in Tiananmen Square.

The BBC required the men to take classes on how to light and operate a
propane stove.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-accident.html

Thanks for that. I hadn't come across it. Sadly, it doesn't surprise me.

I'm in the midst of helping to arrange a Mayday Carnival (its 30th year and
I've personally been involved in for 25). Over the years, the requirements
of the local authority for risk assessments, hygiene certificates and a host
of other requirements are such that we produce a thick lever arched file for
the authority.

There is now a post in the local authority employing a bozo to ask stupid
questions and block any initiatives. Simply removing the post would help but
in these precautious times (and local empires), no one has publicly stated
this!


I suppose these government actions illustrate what is meant
by the term "Nanny State" where the citizenry is/are treated
like children.

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:
Clot wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Clot wrote:
(Snip)
You'll love this (from another group)

THESE UK MEN NEED SUPERVISION!

* Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the first man to walk across Anartica and
holder of medals for polar expeditions,

* Sir Robin Knox-Johnston was the first man to sail singlehanded and
non-stop around the globe, and in 1994 won the Jules Verne Trophy
for the fastest circumnavigation of the world by yacht.

* John Simpson has been shelled in Afghanistan, bombed with poison
gas in the Iran-Iraq war and dodged bullets in Tiananmen Square.

The BBC required the men to take classes on how to light and
operate a propane stove.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-accident.html

Thanks for that. I hadn't come across it. Sadly, it doesn't surprise
me. I'm in the midst of helping to arrange a Mayday Carnival (its 30th
year and I've personally been involved in for 25). Over the years,
the requirements of the local authority for risk assessments,
hygiene certificates and a host of other requirements are such that
we produce a thick lever arched file for the authority.

There is now a post in the local authority employing a bozo to ask
stupid questions and block any initiatives. Simply removing the post
would help but in these precautious times (and local empires), no
one has publicly stated this!


I suppose these government actions illustrate what is meant
by the term "Nanny State" where the citizenry is/are treated
like children.


Abso-bl%%dy-lutely.

Clot wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:
Clot wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Clot wrote:
(Snip)
You'll love this (from another group)

THESE UK MEN NEED SUPERVISION!

* Sir Ranulph Fiennes, the first man to walk across Anartica and
holder of medals for polar expeditions,

* Sir Robin Knox-Johnston was the first man to sail singlehanded and
non-stop around the globe, and in 1994 won the Jules Verne Trophy
for the fastest circumnavigation of the world by yacht.

* John Simpson has been shelled in Afghanistan, bombed with poison
gas in the Iran-Iraq war and dodged bullets in Tiananmen Square.

The BBC required the men to take classes on how to light and
operate a propane stove.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-accident.html
Thanks for that. I hadn't come across it. Sadly, it doesn't surprise
me. I'm in the midst of helping to arrange a Mayday Carnival (its 30th
year and I've personally been involved in for 25). Over the years,
the requirements of the local authority for risk assessments,
hygiene certificates and a host of other requirements are such that
we produce a thick lever arched file for the authority.

There is now a post in the local authority employing a bozo to ask
stupid questions and block any initiatives. Simply removing the post
would help but in these precautious times (and local empires), no
one has publicly stated this!

I suppose these government actions illustrate what is meant
by the term "Nanny State" where the citizenry is/are treated
like children.


Abso-bl%%dy-lutely.



I've seen it coming here to The US for some time but
the dumb masses don't comprehend what's happening and
they go out and vote for a Commie because he's pretty.
I wonder how long, if ever, will it take the next group
to repair the damage.

TDD

Michael B wrote in news:39260186-1632-4ffb-a7ed-
:

There is a product that amounts to a drip edge to be installed
during the roof job. It has a vent space on the underside, only
causing it to extend out a little further, still directing water into
the gutter. So it functions as a soffit vent.
I haven't checked lately, but the number 1-800-ROOFING is
likely to still be a way to check with Owens Corning about
questions and available products and distributors.

Thanks Michael!

--
Best regards
Han
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