Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that apparently
you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint of the wall. Hmm
?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not sure of
this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting rid of
the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

On Jan 28, 7:23*am, "Robert11" wrote:
Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that apparently
you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint of the wall. *Hmm
?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not sure of
this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting rid of
the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

Haven't tried that one, but my experience with other similar things
is: they work fine at first, then start to get messy as the back side
gets covered, then you either wipe it down or let it dry, I have 3
large paddles for airless spraying, With 3 you can set the first one
aside to dry once it starts to get messy, and hopefully by the time
you rotate through the first one is dry.

"Robert11" wrote:

-snip-
Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as usual ?
-snip-

I've never had any luck with them myself. [My wife buys anything
that says 'new' on it, and to humor her I give them a try]

I prefer a *good* sash brush. My edges aren't as good as they
were 20 yrs ago when I was doing a lot more painting- but they still
come out looking better than most of the tape jobs I've seen.


My sash brush is 20+ years old & cost an arm and a leg when I got it.
But it makes a nice clean line.

Jim

Novel concept. You could just learn to cut a good clean line with
a brush.

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"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the
ceiling-wall junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that
apparently you can use right next to a wall without getting any
paint of the wall. Hmm ?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am
not sure of this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape
as usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and
getting rid of the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a
good idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

Robert11 wrote:
Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that apparently
you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint of the wall. Hmm
?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not sure of
this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting rid of
the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob



Just a good brush is all you need. no masks, no edgers.

steve

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:52:40 -0600, Steve Barker TB
wrote:

Robert11 wrote:
Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that apparently
you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint of the wall. Hmm
?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not sure of
this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting rid of
the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob



Just a good brush is all you need. no masks, no edgers.

steve

That's what I do. I use a 1/2" brush along the edges. A little
time-consuming, but excellent results every time.

Robert11 wrote:
Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that
apparently you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint
of the wall. Hmm ?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not
sure of this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as
usual ?
Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting
rid of the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good
idea ?
Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

You needn't go the TV route - similar devices can be bought at the
box/hardware store. Here's an example:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...00C&lpage=none

Here's another
http://www.thegreathardwarestore.com...r-p/605215.htm

A Google search for "paint+edger" yields thousands of other possibilities.

The one I use is made by Rubbermaid and it works swell: perfectly,
uniformly, easily.

If you don't want to take the time to mess up hundreds of edges to gain the
requisite brush experience, I highly recommend investing less than three
dollars for one of these gizmos. Get the kind with wheels.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:23:59 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers"...
Bob



As seen on TV is never the same when you see it at home. Under
just the right conditions they will work, but as noted you would
likely do better buying a like produce from your local store.

To do it well requires some skill and practice. Tape is the
most forgiving.

It is amazing how fast and well someone with a lot of
experience can do, even with just the standard roller.

On Jan 28, 7:58*am, "HeyBub" wrote:


If you don't want to take the time to mess up hundreds of edges to gain the
requisite brush experience, I highly recommend investing less than three
dollars for one of these gizmos. Get the kind with wheels.


And DON'T get paint on the wheels! DAMHIKT.

Jerry

"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:52:40 -0600, Steve Barker TB
wrote:

Robert11 wrote:
Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that
apparently
you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint of the wall.
Hmm
?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not sure
of
this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as
usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting
rid of
the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good
idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob



Just a good brush is all you need. no masks, no edgers.

steve

That's what I do. I use a 1/2" brush along the edges. A little
time-consuming, but excellent results every time.

Agreed. I just have to remember not to drink any coffee that day so my hands
stay rock steady.

h wrote:
"Phisherman" wrote in message

That's what I do. I use a 1/2" brush along the edges. A little
time-consuming, but excellent results every time.

Agreed. I just have to remember not to drink any coffee that day so my hands
stay rock steady.

If you hand shakes too much you can use your left arm to steady your
right hand (or the opposite for southpaws). Prop your non-brush elbow
against the wall and loosely hold your brush arm a few inches down
from your wrist as you paint the ceiling cut line.

The other trick is to put the bulk of the paint on in one direction
and keep it a short distance from the cut line, then to reverse the
brush stroke to push the paint in the opposite direction up to the cut
line.

R

In article , "Robert11" wrote:
Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.

Don't bother with any of that stuff.

Just focus on developing your brush technique. I've just
finished a paint job with about 300 feet of edges (wall-
ceiling, doors, windows, etc.). Done completely by hand,
no problems. And I'm 55 and a 2 gallon of coffee per day
man!

A few tips:

1. Concentrate on nice smooth steady strokes.

2. Use a good quality brush. No need to go for a tiny
one -- I did mine with a 1.5 inch brush.

3. If the finish is textured and/or very porus it
may become hard work if the paint thickens. Just
thin the paint, VERY SLIGHTLY, if it becomes too
thick to apply easily.


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"RicodJour" ...
h wrote:
"Phisherman" wrote

That's what I do. I use a 1/2" brush along the edges. A little
time-consuming, but excellent results every time.

Agreed. I just have to remember not to drink any coffee that day so my
hands
stay rock steady.

If you hand shakes too much you can use your left arm to steady your
right hand (or the opposite for southpaws). Prop your non-brush elbow
against the wall and loosely hold your brush arm a few inches down
from your wrist as you paint the ceiling cut line.

The other trick is to put the bulk of the paint on in one direction
and keep it a short distance from the cut line, then to reverse the
brush stroke to push the paint in the opposite direction up to the cut
line.

Yep, I do a similar thing as I never use tape and always just paint the
straight line and people are amazed. It is really not that hard once one
gets the hang of it with a bit of practice. My 'trick' is to get enough
paint of my very good brush [crappy brushes paint crappily] tip and drag it
along, then when there is not enough paint left on it I veer it away without
stopping. The next stroke starts slightly away from the line, but within
the old stroke's paint and veers back up to the line to resume the perfect
line. I can get 1-2 feet along at a time perfectly. If I do err, I just
wipe it away right away [damp rag] and take the mulligan.
Tomes

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:06:04 GMT, (Malcolm Hoar)
wrote:

-snip-
2. Use a good quality brush. No need to go for a tiny
one -- I did mine with a 1.5 inch brush.
-snip-

I'll say it again-- "good quality". My sash brushes that I do all my
cut ins with are 2 or 2 1/2 - but I can cut a 1/4" stripe with them. .
.. [well, maybe 3/8" these days].

Also be sure to match the brush and the paint. I've used 'every
paint' brushes and don't care for them. I have an 'oil based paint'
and a 'latex paint' brush. One is nylon and one is ?camel?
hair. I don't remember without picking them out of their box which
is which- but I know they both suck when used with the wrong paint.

[or maybe someone with new brushes can comment on some new fiber that
does both paints well.]

Jim

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:28:09 -0800 (PST), Jerry
wrote:

On Jan 28, 7:58*am, "HeyBub" wrote:


If you don't want to take the time to mess up hundreds of edges to gain the
requisite brush experience, I highly recommend investing less than three
dollars for one of these gizmos. Get the kind with wheels.


And DON'T get paint on the wheels! DAMHIKT.

Indeed, and this means resisting the temptation to load these things
with more paint than you need. I have been using the Shur-Line
product for 20 years, and I swear by it, but I also have been
successful with a good brush, just not patient enough.

Here's one tip no one has mentioned yet .. .. ..

Take a simple wooden pencil and lightly drag it along the wall/ceiling joint .. it will leave a very faint line that defines the intersection well enough to paint right up to it without use of tape or gizmos. Works like a charm.

___ Bøb ___

"Tomes" ...
"RicodJour" ...
h wrote:
"Phisherman" wrote

That's what I do. I use a 1/2" brush along the edges. A little
time-consuming, but excellent results every time.

Agreed. I just have to remember not to drink any coffee that day so my
hands
stay rock steady.

If you hand shakes too much you can use your left arm to steady your
right hand (or the opposite for southpaws). Prop your non-brush elbow
against the wall and loosely hold your brush arm a few inches down
from your wrist as you paint the ceiling cut line.

The other trick is to put the bulk of the paint on in one direction
and keep it a short distance from the cut line, then to reverse the
brush stroke to push the paint in the opposite direction up to the cut
line.

Yep, I do a similar thing as I never use tape and always just paint the
straight line and people are amazed. It is really not that hard once one
gets the hang of it with a bit of practice. My 'trick' is to get enough
paint of my very good brush [crappy brushes paint crappily] tip and drag
it along, then when there is not enough paint left on it I veer it away
without stopping. The next stroke starts slightly away from the line, but
within the old stroke's paint and veers back up to the line to resume the
perfect line. I can get 1-2 feet along at a time perfectly. If I do err,
I just wipe it away right away [damp rag] and take the mulligan.
Tomes
One more thing - paint the line before you do the rolling, not the other way
around. It looks infinitely better. Do not let it dry out before you get
to do the rolling so it blends together.
Tomes

In article ,
Jim Elbrecht wrote:



I prefer a *good* sash brush. My edges aren't as good as they
were 20 yrs ago when I was doing a lot more painting- but they still
come out looking better than most of the tape jobs I've seen.



My painting gets better and better as I get older, because I don't wear
glasses while I paint.

Smitty Two wrote in newsrestwhich-
:

In article ,
Jim Elbrecht wrote:



I prefer a *good* sash brush. My edges aren't as good as they
were 20 yrs ago when I was doing a lot more painting- but they still
come out looking better than most of the tape jobs I've seen.



My painting gets better and better as I get older, because I don't wear
glasses while I paint.


Exactly!!!! I noticed that too.

"Robert11" wrote in
:

Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers" being offered.
Small flat piect of plastic with a thin foam like covering that
apparently you can use right next to a wall without getting any paint
of the wall. Hmm ?
Think they have a slight taper on them at their edges, but am not sure
of this.

Do they actually "work", or should one forget them and just tape as
usual ?

Seems it might be a bit messy loading them up with paint, and getting
rid of the excess.
The one on TV had a roller in the paint pan, which seems like a good
idea ?

Pros and cons of taping vs these gadgets ?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob



Free hand it Bob. Tape sucks. Gadgets suck. Gotta learn by doing it.

As others have said, GOOD quality brush. Why? They hold a lot of paint.
They don't fray and loose shape easily.

Tendency is to use a small brush. Small brush holds less paint. That means
shorter strokes between reloading. More chance for oops'. Personally I use
a 2.5" angled sash brush. Holds lotsa paint. Because it's good quality, the
tip stays sharp. Paint more with narrow edge of brush. Very dark colors
against a white ceiling can be more challenging since the slightest error
yells out "Lookie here!".

After painting line segment, feather the paint so there isn't a defined
line where the paint stopped down the wall. Roller blends it in nicely and
no "boardering" shows through when all is done.

Gotta try different things and eventually what works best for you is the
best be it thin brush, thick brush, whatever. The end result is what
counts. Believe it or not, I paint all casing trim first, then wall color
trim, then walls and it comes out stellar. Quick topcoat of casing trim
when all done if necessary. That's what works for me but can be a disaster
for someone else.

wrote in
:

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:23:59 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello,

Have to paint a bathroom ceiling with a fair number of corners.
Was thinking automatically that I would have to tape the ceiling-wall
junctions like I have always in the past.

But keep seeing on TV and at HD these "edgers"...
Bob



As seen on TV is never the same when you see it at home.

Well no, silly. They're designed to work on TV. Not in actual usage.

Under
just the right conditions they will work, but as noted you would
likely do better buying a like produce from your local store.

To do it well requires some skill and practice. Tape is the
most forgiving.

It is amazing how fast and well someone with a lot of
experience can do, even with just the standard roller.