Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s, perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not happen all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. What we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the amount
varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens not early in
the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying phases. We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing this I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket meets up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there another
gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this post.
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Is the water clean or dirty?

Regardless, if your dishwasher is 30 years old you might consider
replacing it. Probably would save energy, too.

Tomes wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not
happen all of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the
unit. What we find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a
flood, and the amount varies. There is no water underneath or behind.
It happens not early in the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing
or the drying phases. We use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing
this I really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the
gasket meets up with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this
post. Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

We had a similar problem. The problem was that detergent builds up,
eventually causes too much foam, which keeps water from draining so
it runs out. Solution: pour in one quart of white vinegar (no dishes)
and run through a full cycle. I switched to liquid detergent, but don't
use the d.w. often enough to repeat any problems. The fix was
recommended by pro repairman, and I thought he was putting me on, but it
worked.

"Shaun Eli" ...
Is the water clean or dirty?

Regardless, if your dishwasher is 30 years old you might consider
replacing it. Probably would save energy, too.

Sometimes clean and many times dirty, like rusty colored. It still does a
good job of cleaning the dishes. I would rather fix the problem at this
time than buy and go through the project of installing it [I do this stuff
myself], but I certainly do understand your energy point. Perhaps in the
future...
Tomes

...
Tomes wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s, perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not happen
all of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit.
What we find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and
the amount varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens
not early in the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the
drying phases. We use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing this
I really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket
meets up with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this
post. Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

We had a similar problem. The problem was that detergent builds up,
eventually causes too much foam, which keeps water from draining so
it runs out. Solution: pour in one quart of white vinegar (no dishes) and
run through a full cycle. I switched to liquid detergent, but don't
use the d.w. often enough to repeat any problems. The fix was recommended
by pro repairman, and I thought he was putting me on, but it
worked.

Cool. I will try this degunkifying trick and report back [but don't let
this stop other replies...]. When we first moved in here we tried the
liquid stuff and it leaked then, so we went to the granular and it behaved
for 10 years, so we decided that the liquid stuff was evil. I suppose all
it did was buy us that time.
Tomes

"Tomes" wrote in
:

"Shaun Eli" ...
Is the water clean or dirty?

Regardless, if your dishwasher is 30 years old you might consider
replacing it. Probably would save energy, too.

Sometimes clean and many times dirty, like rusty colored. It still
does a good job of cleaning the dishes. I would rather fix the
problem at this time than buy and go through the project of installing
it [I do this stuff myself], but I certainly do understand your energy
point. Perhaps in the future...
Tomes


go through the project of installing it

What you have done so far to try and rectify it is more work than
installing a new dishwasher. Door gasket - $50 maybe?

You can get an econo dishwasher for 200 bucks. Of course, you can dump
$1600 on one two.

In article ,
Red Green wrote:

"Tomes" wrote in
:

"Shaun Eli" ...
Is the water clean or dirty?

Regardless, if your dishwasher is 30 years old you might consider
replacing it. Probably would save energy, too.

Sometimes clean and many times dirty, like rusty colored. It still
does a good job of cleaning the dishes. I would rather fix the
problem at this time than buy and go through the project of installing
it [I do this stuff myself], but I certainly do understand your energy
point. Perhaps in the future...
Tomes


go through the project of installing it

What you have done so far to try and rectify it is more work than
installing a new dishwasher. Door gasket - $50 maybe?

You can get an econo dishwasher for 200 bucks. Of course, you can dump
$1600 on one two.

one two? is that like red green?

Smitty Two wrote in
news
In article ,
Red Green wrote:

"Tomes" wrote in
:

"Shaun Eli" ...
Is the water clean or dirty?

Regardless, if your dishwasher is 30 years old you might consider
replacing it. Probably would save energy, too.

Sometimes clean and many times dirty, like rusty colored. It still
does a good job of cleaning the dishes. I would rather fix the
problem at this time than buy and go through the project of
installing it [I do this stuff myself], but I certainly do
understand your energy point. Perhaps in the future...
Tomes


go through the project of installing it

What you have done so far to try and rectify it is more work than
installing a new dishwasher. Door gasket - $50 maybe?

You can get an econo dishwasher for 200 bucks. Of course, you can
dump $1600 on one two.

one two? is that like red green?


One, too, twee, foe

"Tomes" wrote in message
...
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s, perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not happen
all of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. What
we find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the
amount varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens not
early in the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying
phases. We use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing this
I really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket meets
up with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there another
gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this post.
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes


If any of the dishes were coated with regular dish soap, from either soaking
in the sink or hand pre-washing then you might have produce a leak but that
would show up early.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tS7qi1Xig4&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuM0H34rcuQ

Inspect the water level float for sticking/restricted movement.

Shut the power off, remove the kick plate (maybe 4 screws/bolts) and use a
mirror and a flashlight to look for past leaks/ water trails under the unit.
Old leaks with be easy to see by the water (lime) deposits.

Cheers,
Jim

Red Green wrote:

-snip-
What you have done so far to try and rectify it is more work than
installing a new dishwasher. Door gasket - $50 maybe?

I just replaced the gasket on my 5yr old Whirlpool. $20 & 10 minutes.
Next time I'll replace it when it gets ugly instead of waiting for a
leak.

Jim

Tomes wrote:
"Shaun Eli" ...
Is the water clean or dirty?

Regardless, if your dishwasher is 30 years old you might consider
replacing it. Probably would save energy, too.

Sometimes clean and many times dirty, like rusty colored. It still does
a good job of cleaning the dishes. I would rather fix the problem at
this time than buy and go through the project of installing it [I do
this stuff myself], but I certainly do understand your energy point.
Perhaps in the future...
Tomes

Notes: A new washer will take longer - maybe much longer - to do its
job. Thats because of energy saving. You should be able to get a
great deal on a machine - probably at or below dealer cost if you can
bargain

Lou

Tomes wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not
happen all of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the
unit. What we find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a
flood, and the amount varies. There is no water underneath or behind.
It happens not early in the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing
or the drying phases. We use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing
this I really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the
gasket meets up with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this
post. Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Hi,
I won't even bother. It is old enough to be replaced. Bottom seal may
have a crack.

LouB wrote:

Notes: A new washer will take longer - maybe much longer - to do its
job. Thats because of energy saving. You should be able to get a
great deal on a machine - probably at or below dealer cost if you can
bargain


But many have bought into the program. They each faced the problem of what
to do with their old machine.

They posted it as a give-away on Craigslist. I see at least one or two per
week under the "Free" category.

Tomes wrote:
...
Tomes wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does
not happen all of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use
the unit. What we find is on the floor there is a river of water, not
a flood, and the amount varies. There is no water underneath or
behind. It happens not early in the cycling, but later on, either in
the rinsing or the drying phases. We use the granular Cascade
detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing
this I really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the
gasket meets up with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from
this post. Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

We had a similar problem. The problem was that detergent builds up,
eventually causes too much foam, which keeps water from draining so
it runs out. Solution: pour in one quart of white vinegar (no dishes)
and run through a full cycle. I switched to liquid detergent, but don't
use the d.w. often enough to repeat any problems. The fix was
recommended by pro repairman, and I thought he was putting me on, but it
worked.

Cool. I will try this degunkifying trick and report back [but don't let
this stop other replies...]. When we first moved in here we tried the
liquid stuff and it leaked then, so we went to the granular and it
behaved for 10 years, so we decided that the liquid stuff was evil. I
suppose all it did was buy us that time.
Tomes
Our dw was relatively new when we first experienced the overflowing.
Hubby likes more detergent when he volunteers )

On Jan 26, 9:16*pm, "Tomes" wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s, perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. *It does not happen all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. *What we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the amount
varies. *There is no water underneath or behind. *It happens not early in
the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying phases. *We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. *While doing this I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket meets up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? *Is there another
gasket somewhere on that door? *I seek clues or better from this post.
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Fixed my old Maytag leak by tightening up the latch a bit. Lasted out
the decade.

Joe

On Jan 27, 11:35*am, Joe wrote:
On Jan 26, 9:16*pm, "Tomes" wrote:





Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s, perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. *It does not happen all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. *What we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the amount
varies. *There is no water underneath or behind. *It happens not early in
the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying phases. *We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. *While doing this I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket meets up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? *Is there another
gasket somewhere on that door? *I seek clues or better from this post..
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Fixed my old Maytag leak by tightening up the latch a bit. Lasted out
the decade.

Joe- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I had a bad box of detergent one time that foamed much more than
normal, it caused leaking. A new box of another brand that did not
foam stopped the leak.

Run the dishwasher with the cover/kickplate off and see where the leak
is coming from .. You can also take the front panel of the door off
(the one that you see when the door is closed), and see if it is
getting into the door somehow and then running down the inside of the
door.

"hr(bob) ...
Joe wrote:
"Tomes"wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not happen
all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. What we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the
amount
varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens not early in
the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying phases.
We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing this
I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket meets
up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another
gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this post.
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Fixed my old Maytag leak by tightening up the latch a bit. Lasted out
the decade.
Joe

I had a bad box of detergent one time that foamed much more than
normal, it caused leaking. A new box of another brand that did not
foam stopped the leak.

Run the dishwasher with the cover/kickplate off and see where the leak
is coming from .. You can also take the front panel of the door off
(the one that you see when the door is closed), and see if it is
getting into the door somehow and then running down the inside of the
door.
================================
Thanks folks for the discussion. I now have 2 things to try out. Run it
with the front panels off to see what I see and when it is empty to run it
with vinegar. It is partially full with dishes right now, so this will
likely happen tomorrow. I will post what happens.
Much appreciated,
Tomes

"Tomes" ...
"hr(bob) ...
Joe wrote:
"Tomes"wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not happen
all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. What
we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the
amount
varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens not early in
the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying phases.
We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing
this I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket
meets up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another
gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this post.
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Fixed my old Maytag leak by tightening up the latch a bit. Lasted out
the decade.
Joe

I had a bad box of detergent one time that foamed much more than
normal, it caused leaking. A new box of another brand that did not
foam stopped the leak.

Run the dishwasher with the cover/kickplate off and see where the leak
is coming from .. You can also take the front panel of the door off
(the one that you see when the door is closed), and see if it is
getting into the door somehow and then running down the inside of the
door.
================================
Thanks folks for the discussion. I now have 2 things to try out. Run it
with the front panels off to see what I see and when it is empty to run it
with vinegar. It is partially full with dishes right now, so this will
likely happen tomorrow. I will post what happens.
Much appreciated,
Tomes
Update: Took off the kick plate [snow day today...] and the underneath looks
fine - water never went there. Ran it with a quart of vinegar dumped in and
watched it drip from the bottom right of the door. I am thinking that it's
gotta be some other mysterious seal within the door.

I intend to run a few more vinegar cycles when I can, then if it still leaks
the door is coming apart. Any tips for that? Handy diagram source?
Thanks,
Tomes

"Tomes" wrote in
:

"Tomes" ...
"hr(bob) ...
Joe wrote:
"Tomes"wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not
happen all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit.
What we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and
the amount
varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens not
early in the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the
drying phases. We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While
doing this I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket
meets up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another
gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this
post. Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Fixed my old Maytag leak by tightening up the latch a bit. Lasted
out the decade.
Joe

I had a bad box of detergent one time that foamed much more than
normal, it caused leaking. A new box of another brand that did not
foam stopped the leak.

Run the dishwasher with the cover/kickplate off and see where the
leak is coming from .. You can also take the front panel of the door
off (the one that you see when the door is closed), and see if it is
getting into the door somehow and then running down the inside of
the door.
================================
Thanks folks for the discussion. I now have 2 things to try out.
Run it with the front panels off to see what I see and when it is
empty to run it with vinegar. It is partially full with dishes right
now, so this will likely happen tomorrow. I will post what happens.
Much appreciated,
Tomes
Update: Took off the kick plate [snow day today...] and the underneath
looks fine - water never went there. Ran it with a quart of vinegar
dumped in and watched it drip from the bottom right of the door. I am
thinking that it's gotta be some other mysterious seal within the
door.

I intend to run a few more vinegar cycles when I can, then if it still
leaks the door is coming apart. Any tips for that? Handy diagram
source? Thanks,
Tomes


Just remembered something from long ago 20+ yrs. Had a door seal leaking.
Did many things. All NG. So I left it until I had an appliance guy come
out for something else. Turned out some plastic part down in the bottom
of the DW was broke/cracked or something. Caused water to be tossed
directly at door in some fashion it wasn't suppose to.

Sorry for the sketchy story but the point is the cause of the leaky door
had nothing to do with any kind of seals. Poke around at things you
"know" could not possibly be the cause!

"Tomes" wrote in message
...
"Tomes" ...
"hr(bob) ...
Joe wrote:
"Tomes"wrote:
Hi Folks,
We have the leaky dishwasher, a Maytag perhaps from the late 70s,
perhaps
more recent as we have only been here for 12 years. It does not happen
all
of the time, only maybe one out of 3 or 4 times we use the unit. What
we
find is on the floor there is a river of water, not a flood, and the
amount
varies. There is no water underneath or behind. It happens not early
in
the cycling, but later on, either in the rinsing or the drying phases.
We
use the granular Cascade detergent.

I replaced the main gasket around the door to no avail. While doing
this I
really cleaned the dirt both under the gasket and where the gasket
meets up
with the frame.

The water must be coming from somewhere else, but where? Is there
another
gasket somewhere on that door? I seek clues or better from this post.
Questions for clarification are welcome.

Thanks folks,
Tomes

Fixed my old Maytag leak by tightening up the latch a bit. Lasted out
the decade.
Joe

I had a bad box of detergent one time that foamed much more than
normal, it caused leaking. A new box of another brand that did not
foam stopped the leak.

Run the dishwasher with the cover/kickplate off and see where the leak
is coming from .. You can also take the front panel of the door off
(the one that you see when the door is closed), and see if it is
getting into the door somehow and then running down the inside of the
door.
================================
Thanks folks for the discussion. I now have 2 things to try out. Run it
with the front panels off to see what I see and when it is empty to run
it with vinegar. It is partially full with dishes right now, so this
will likely happen tomorrow. I will post what happens.
Much appreciated,
Tomes
Update: Took off the kick plate [snow day today...] and the underneath
looks fine - water never went there. Ran it with a quart of vinegar
dumped in and watched it drip from the bottom right of the door. I am
thinking that it's gotta be some other mysterious seal within the door.

I intend to run a few more vinegar cycles when I can, then if it still
leaks the door is coming apart. Any tips for that? Handy diagram source?
Thanks,
Tomes

When it leaks open the door and inspect the water level, it if looks high
then you have a problem with the float shut-off.

Another off-the-wall idea ....inspect the hinges and the latch for
loose/worn mounts.

Keep us posted.

Cheers,
Jim

"Jim2009" ...
When it leaks open the door and inspect the water level, it if looks high
then you have a problem with the float shut-off.

How can I tell if it looks too high? I like this idea of analysis, yet I do
not really know what to look for...

Another off-the-wall idea ....inspect the hinges and the latch for
loose/worn mounts.

Good thought, the door seems to be not loose at all and clamps seemingly
tight.
Tomes

"Tomes" wrote in message
...
"Jim2009" ...
When it leaks open the door and inspect the water level, it if looks high
then you have a problem with the float shut-off.

How can I tell if it looks too high? I like this idea of analysis, yet I
do not really know what to look for...

The door on your dishwasher is some what like a shower door, it reflects
water, it does not make it water tight. So if the water level it too high
(bad float) it would leak.

Think of the bottom of your unit as a bowl. When the unit leaks open the
door and inspect the water level, it should be lower then the inside edge of
the bowl (on the door side) or in other terms - the water level should be
lower than the inside bottom edge of the door.

Cheers,
Jim.