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Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.)
I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie |
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Turn the dial to whatever setting produces the temperature water you
would like. If you are worried that much about wasting money just turn off the water heater entirely. On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie |
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Turn the dial to whatever setting produces the temperature water you
would like. If you are worried that much about wasting money just turn off the water heater entirely. On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie |
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"Bonnie Jean" wrote in message ... Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie You are not allowed to set the water temperature. Our government takes care of your needs and knows what you should be doing. Many states have plumbing codes that state the water temperature must not exceed 125 degrees or 116 degrees in the shower, etc. If, however, you want to be a lawless renegade, go ahead and turn up that dial. It is easy enough to blend i n some cold water to get just what you want. There is a risk of scalding above 130 or so, thus the codes. The higher the water temperature, the greater the loss to the atmosphere too. In the winter, that is helping to keep the house warmer so it may not be costly at all since you pay one way or another. |
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On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. |
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"Bonnie Jean" wrote in message ... Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie What you're doing is fine. Heaters today are typically set for 125 degrees, probably for liability reasons. If this is OK for your normal use, leave it alone, and do just what you have been doing. Do not turn off the heater unless you plan to be away for a while, or re-heating the tank will wind up costing more. |
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"ransley" wrote in message ... On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. Well, that convinced me, and you wonder why you live alone? (lol) |
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Bonnie Jean wrote:
Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Hi, You can turn up the dial to have desired water temp. And if the tank feels warm to touch, wrap it with insulating blanket to save some energy. |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
Bonnie Jean wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Hi, You can turn up the dial to have desired water temp. And if the tank feels warm to touch, wrap it with insulating blanket to save some energy. Check your hot water temp with a thermometer under a faucet. Should be 120-130F. Safety conscious people prefer closer to 120, people who like hot showers (and clean clothes and dishes) prefer the latter. If you have small children or elderly living with you better to err towards the lower setting. If the heater is fairly recent, it likely came preset for 120F. Absolutely nothing wrong with setting it a little higher. It can't hurt to flush the tank for sediment every year, but you say you're renting, there's a non-zero possibility that you may have issues with the old drain valve (either it won't close all the way, or it'll stick, or something...) which would necessitate replacement, that gets waaaaay into the territory of "stuff you don't want to be liable for when someone else's stuff breaks after you messed with it." nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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"Bonnie Jean" wrote
Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I was reading that one (sad grin). I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think No, it's not normal as you doubtless know. the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Hot water heaters have a finite life cycle. 15 years is normally about it. Sediment likely as well as it's probably lost a heating element. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Up the dial and notify the owner that the hot water heater is no longer working on 'all thrusters' and will need replacement soon. Despite the many flip answers I've seen you get, your rental (house not apartment I gather) is out of code spec in a few ways. How badly, I cant say. There's no requirement for the owner to fix it all to code if grandfathered for the specs of the time it was built, but basic safety things do need to be fixed. How friendly is the owner? In my case when the place was rented, we had quite a bit of work done for the tenants including having 3 new GFCI outlets put in (1 kitchen, 2 on the screened porch). The contract would have covered the hot water heater, oven, and the HVAC. The HVAC needed work several times (it was rented 7 years). However we also specified all other appliances were 'as is' and if they went, would not be replaced (nor were they required to leave the replacements for us if they had to replace anything). If the originals were still working, they were to leave them with us. Because we were overseas (in Japan actually), we used a rental agent and he took care of all maintenance. Sadly our experience was not a good one, but most renters are good people and most owners would take care of your electrical and hot water heater issues with no hassles. Other appliances will depend on the contract. Example- Not covered he disposal, dishwasher, refridgerator, chest freezer, dryer, washing machine. |
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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... Tony Hwang wrote: Bonnie Jean wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Hi, You can turn up the dial to have desired water temp. And if the tank feels warm to touch, wrap it with insulating blanket to save some energy. Check your hot water temp with a thermometer under a faucet. Should be 120-130F. Safety conscious people prefer closer to 120, people who like hot showers (and clean clothes and dishes) prefer the latter. If you have small children or elderly living with you better to err towards the lower setting. If the heater is fairly recent, it likely came preset for 120F. Absolutely nothing wrong with setting it a little higher. It can't hurt to flush the tank for sediment every year, but you say you're renting, there's a non-zero possibility that you may have issues with the old drain valve (either it won't close all the way, or it'll stick, or something...) which would necessitate replacement, that gets waaaaay into the territory of "stuff you don't want to be liable for when someone else's stuff breaks after you messed with it." nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel You're RENTING this place...Call the landlord and talk to him or her about your outlets and waterheater...As nate said this is not something you want to mess with as are the outlets..Even turning it up is out of bounds if the heat and lights are included in your rent...If the place is unacceptable and the landlord is unresponsive , MOVE...That's the advantage of RENTING...... |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:16:08 -0500, "Bonnie Jean"
wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Not normal. If the water was hot last month, and not hot anymore, I'd suspect sediment or possibly end-of-service is near. If you have not flushed the tank in 24 months, doing so may help. A blanket should not restrict air intake on a gas heater. The flames should look clear or blue. FWIW, back in my OSU college days the university decided to lower the hot water temperature for energy conservation. Shortly after there was an outbreak of bacteria that made many students sick. Your hot water should, at minimum, be 120 degrees F coming out of the tap (when the tank is not in "recovery" mode). Cooler than that, there is a high risk of bacteria growth. If hotter than 125, you might be able to save some money. |
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On Jan 24, 2:54*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets..) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Mr Moron bubbles bubba, you just prove again and again your no pro heat guy anything. Its called, for your help and education, E.F. that is the Energy Factor rating. And for just about every tank made, they are all here for you to see to help you learn at www.energystar.gov you really need to grow up and quit making a fool of yourself here every time you post. You will find im sure more than 60, that are 55 EF. You also need to learn the EF rating. Do you know what AFUE is, probably not, do you know what % is? |
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"cshenk" wrote in message Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think No, it's not normal as you doubtless know. the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Hot water heaters have a finite life cycle. 15 years is normally about it. Sediment likely as well as it's probably lost a heating element. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Up the dial and notify the owner that the hot water heater is no longer working on 'all thrusters' and will need replacement soon. Despite the many flip answers I've seen you get, your rental (house not apartment I gather) is out of code spec in a few ways. First, the water heat is gas so no elements are burned out. You missed the line I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow Next, the code may vary in some states, but in MA the temperature is set so that you CAN turn the hot water on and take a shower and not scald yourself. While you state the house is out of code, the water heater is in compliance at that temperature. Property owners can have some liability if a child is scalded by hot water so they try to limit the temperature. Seniors have problems with scalding also. |
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Bubba wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:45:17 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Mr Moron bubbles bubba, you just prove again and again your no pro heat guy anything. Its called, for your help and education, E.F. that is the Energy Factor rating. And for just about every tank made, they are all here for you to see to help you learn at www.energystar.gov you really need to grow up and quit making a fool of yourself here every time you post. You will find im sure more than 60, that are 55 EF. You also need to learn the EF rating. Do you know what AFUE is, probably not, do you know what % is? Nice try ransley. You know, I don't think I've ever met anyone quite as stupid as you. Absolutely dumber than a box of rocks. AFUE (annual fuel utilization efficiency) and EF (energy factor) are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT methods of calculation and are very different and not directly comparable. I don't know how else to explain it to that pea size mass you call a brain. Maybe if you weren't sitting on it so much it would work a little better. Do a little research and come back when you can grow up and speak intelligently with the adults. Now get back in your crib. Bubba WTF is with the two of you? Seriously. -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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"Nate Nagel" wrote
Bubba wrote: ransley wrote WTF is with the two of you? Seriously. Dunno but been hitting my delete key on both of'em lately over whatever this is. |
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"up" is usually to the left, or counter clockwise.
You could also upgrade, and get a cold water heater, which is designed to turn cold water into hot water. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... Hi, You can turn up the dial to have desired water temp. And if the tank feels warm to touch, wrap it with insulating blanket to save some energy. |
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"cshenk" wrote: "Nate Nagel" wrote Bubba wrote: ransley wrote WTF is with the two of you? Seriously. Dunno but been hitting my delete key on both of'em lately over whatever this is. I permanently deleted Ransley six months ago, and Bubba just joined him. I don't like to killfile as a rule, other than googlegroupies, but if you repeatedly demonstrate an IQ lower than 67 or an emotional maturity age of less than 12, ya ain't got nuttin for me ... |
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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:45:17 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Mr Moron bubbles bubba, you just prove again and again your no pro heat guy anything. Its called, for your help and education, E.F. that is the Energy Factor rating. And for just about every tank made, they are all here for you to see to help you learn at www.energystar.gov you really need to grow up and quit making a fool of yourself here every time you post. You will find im sure more than 60, that are 55 EF. You also need to learn the EF rating. Do you know what AFUE is, probably not, do you know what % is? Nice try ransley. You know, I don't think I've ever met anyone quite as stupid as you. Absolutely dumber than a box of rocks. AFUE (annual fuel utilization efficiency) and EF (energy factor) are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT methods of calculation and are very different and not directly comparable. I don't know how else to explain it to that pea size mass you call a brain. Maybe if you weren't sitting on it so much it would work a little better. Do a little research and come back when you can grow up and speak intelligently with the adults. Now get back in your crib. Bubba WTF is with the two of you? Seriously. -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel It's a ****IN' contest! |
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I took the water tempurature this morning with my instant read thermometer
(for barbeque). It was around 90?. I upped the temp on the water heater to "C" and now it's 140. So I will play with it until it's 120. Thanks for the advise for me to actually see what temperature it's at and adjust from there. bonnie |
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Bonnie Jean wrote:
I took the water tempurature this morning with my instant read thermometer (for barbeque). It was around 90?. I upped the temp on the water heater to "C" and now it's 140. So I will play with it until it's 120. Thanks for the advise for me to actually see what temperature it's at and adjust from there. bonnie Good job, too cool can breed nasty bugs like Legionnaire's so this is not only a comfort issue. I dunno why they don't install a bung on the outlet for a temp. gauge that would make issues like this much more evident; e.g. sorting out without any doubt whether a tenant has a valid complaint or not. If I ever replace my WH I may be tempted to do just that. And a pressure gauge as well so I can see if I'm getting too many spikes (I have a gauge, but it fits on a spigot, so I'd be afraid to leave it on all the time... the obvious place to put it is on the WH drain, and I'd be afraid of kicking it off and making a mess) I don't think this would be too expensive, might add what, $20 to the cost of a WH installation? nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message time... the obvious place to put it is on the WH drain, and I'd be afraid of kicking it off and making a mess) I don't think this would be too expensive, might add what, $20 to the cost of a WH installation? nate You may be willing to pay $20, but the typical consumer is looking for the lowest price an any cost. Pennies count in manufacturing. I'd guess that 99% of consumers don't give a damn and would never look at the temperature. |
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On Jan 24, 8:24*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: "up" is usually to the left, or counter clockwise. You could also upgrade, and get a cold water heater, which is designed to turn cold water into hot water. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... Hi, You can turn up the dial to have desired water temp. And if the tank feels warm to touch, wrap it with insulating blanket to save some energy. True, if the water IS hot...you don't have to heat it! |
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On Jan 24, 7:45*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:17:25 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote: Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:45:17 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Mr Moron bubbles bubba, you just prove again and again your no pro heat guy anything. Its called, for your help and education, E.F. that is the Energy Factor rating. And for just about every tank made, they are all here for you to see to help you learn atwww.energystar.gov you really need to grow up and quit making a fool of yourself here every time you post. You will find im sure more than 60, *that are 55 EF. You also need to learn the EF rating. Do you know what AFUE is, probably not, do you know what % is? Nice try ransley. You know, I don't think I've ever met anyone quite as stupid as you. Absolutely dumber than a box of rocks. AFUE (annual fuel utilization efficiency) and EF (energy factor) are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT methods of calculation and are very different and not directly comparable. I don't know how else to explain it to that pea size mass you call a brain. Maybe if you weren't sitting on it so much it would work a little better. Do a little research and come back when you can grow up and speak intelligently with the adults. Now get back in your crib. Bubba WTF is with the two of you? *Seriously. Im just sick and tired of him and idiots like him spewing all kinds of inaccurate crap about water heaters, boilers etc that is wrong and will get people hurt or killed with some of his stupid advice. Hell, look at all the silly **** I responded to. That freaking moron spews out advice on almost ever single post in alt.home.repair. I dont care if he tells someone how to wax their car and his advice peals the paint but when he starts telling people how to adjust *gas appliances that is not safe, thats when the fool needs a smack-down. Then all he does is spits out numbers he makes up so people might think he is credible. When I ask for proof, he never shows it. Idiots like him are just plain dangerous. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You want me to post proof so you can learn, well I dont know how to post links and im not your teacher. You want to know of only ONE that is 55 EF, where 45c of every dollar is wasted. Bradford Whites regular Ng lineup of about 70 has 3-THREE that are 55 EF and under. Their highest is 63 EF. Now, thats just one company, just one you can google. I bet there are 100 of 55 EF sold, but you prove me wrong, and you prove BradfordWhites own ratings are false. Just type in your search bar Bradford White Energy Factor, that is more help than you need. I never said EF = AFUE, I said you dont know either, and you dont know EF or you wouldnt say what you do. What I say I get from ratings, its not up to me to prove it, its up to you to post a link I am wrong. If I knew how to post links I would. |
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On Jan 24, 7:09*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:45:17 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54*pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one.. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Mr Moron bubbles bubba, you just prove again and again your no pro heat guy anything. Its called, for your help and education, E.F. that is the Energy Factor rating. And for just about every tank made, they are all here for you to see to help you learn atwww.energystar.gov you really need to grow up and quit making a fool of yourself here every time you post. You will find im sure more than 60, *that are 55 EF. You also need to learn the EF rating. Do you know what AFUE is, probably not, do you know what % is? Nice try ransley. You know, I don't think I've ever met anyone quite as stupid as you. Absolutely dumber than a box of rocks. AFUE (annual fuel utilization efficiency) and EF (energy factor) are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT methods of calculation and are very different and not directly comparable. I don't know how else to explain it to that pea size mass you call a brain. Maybe if you weren't sitting on it so much it would work a little better. Do a little research and come back when you can grow up and speak intelligently with the adults. Now get back in your crib. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I said you dont know either, I know they are not the same. Bradford white has 2 Ng that are 55EF, and one 53EF. Dont you ever research what you sell, or do you go by the BS |
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On Jan 24, 2:54*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets..) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF. Your ignorance here really make you stand out |
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On Jan 28, 8:26*am, ransley wrote:
On Jan 24, 2:54*pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA, girly fag boi you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!! |
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On Jan 28, 4:43*pm, ransley wrote:
On Jan 28, 8:26*am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54*pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16*am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is *BUBBA, girly fag boi * you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA to answer this life issue |
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On Jan 28, 6:01�pm, ransley wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:43�pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26�am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54�pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16�am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, �hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is �BUBBA, girly fag boi � you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA to answer this �life issue- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley you rant so much Is SAD seasonal affective disorder troubling you? |
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On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF.. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA, girly fag boi you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA to answer this life issue- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley you rant so much Is SAD seasonal affective disorder troubling you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No , its BUB disorder, as in Bubba the child |
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On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, " wrote:
On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF.. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA, girly fag boi you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA to answer this life issue- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley you rant so much Is SAD seasonal affective disorder troubling you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Hallerb, can you possibly, if you can, show my points false, if not, wake up and shut up. |
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On Jan 28, 7:47*pm, ransley wrote:
On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, " wrote: On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater.. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA, girly fag boi you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA to answer this life issue- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley you rant so much Is SAD seasonal affective disorder troubling you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Hallerb, can you possibly, *if you can, show my points false, if not, wake up and shut up.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You and Bubba better start posting links or get your ducks in line to think you even can difute facts, which you cant. Grow the fucc up you two and read FACTS. You and Bubbasss are ignorameses |
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On Jan 28, 8:10*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:20:25 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 7:45*pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:17:25 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote: Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:45:17 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, *hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey Mr Moron bubbles bubba, you just prove again and again your no pro heat guy anything. Its called, for your help and education, E.F. that is the Energy Factor rating. And for just about every tank made, they are all here for you to see to help you learn atwww.energystar.gov you really need to grow up and quit making a fool of yourself here every time you post. You will find im sure more than 60, *that are 55 EF. You also need to learn the EF rating. Do you know what AFUE is, probably not, do you know what % is? Nice try ransley. You know, I don't think I've ever met anyone quite as stupid as you. Absolutely dumber than a box of rocks. AFUE (annual fuel utilization efficiency) and EF (energy factor) are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT methods of calculation and are very different and not directly comparable. I don't know how else to explain it to that pea size mass you call a brain. Maybe if you weren't sitting on it so much it would work a little better. Do a little research and come back when you can grow up and speak intelligently with the adults. Now get back in your crib. Bubba WTF is with the two of you? *Seriously. Im just sick and tired of him and idiots like him spewing all kinds of inaccurate crap about water heaters, boilers etc that is wrong and will get people hurt or killed with some of his stupid advice. Hell, look at all the silly **** I responded to. That freaking moron spews out advice on almost ever single post in alt.home.repair. I dont care if he tells someone how to wax their car and his advice peals the paint but when he starts telling people how to adjust *gas appliances that is not safe, thats when the fool needs a smack-down. Then all he does is spits out numbers he makes up so people might think he is credible. When I ask for proof, he never shows it. Idiots like him are just plain dangerous. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You want me to post proof so you can learn, well I dont know how to post links and im not your teacher. You want to know of only ONE that is 55 EF, where 45c of every dollar is wasted. Bradford Whites regular Ng lineup of about 70 has 3-THREE that are 55 EF and under. Their highest is 63 EF. Now, thats just one company, just one you can google. I bet there are 100 of 55 EF sold, but you prove me wrong, and you prove BradfordWhites own ratings are false. Just type in your search bar Bradford White Energy Factor, that is more help than you need. I never said EF = AFUE, I said you dont know either, and you dont know EF or you wouldnt say what you do. What I say I get from ratings, its not up to me to prove it, its up to you to post a link I am wrong. If I knew how to post links I would. Dont worry idiot. No one in their right mind would listen to you, much less learn from you. Only thing learned from you is how to be a tight ass dip****. And your still quoting the EF's like they are dollars. You're an idiot. Its not the same as AFUE's you dork. Do us all a favor and just shoot yourself now you rambling idiot. That and the fact that you dont know how to post a link is just funny beyond belief. How did you even learn how to turn the computer on or did your mommy show you that? Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What you have just stated proves you are a NUT or a drunk moron. I think moron and likely drunk as you post crap. |
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On Jan 28, 8:17*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:42:48 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, " wrote: On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. |
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On Jan 28, 8:17*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:42:48 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, " wrote: On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. |
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On Jan 28, 8:17*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:42:48 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 5:49*pm, " wrote: On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. |
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On Jan 28, 9:29�pm, ransley wrote:
On Jan 28, 8:17�pm, Bubba wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:42:48 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 5:49�pm, " wrote: On Jan 28, 6:01 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 4:43 pm, ransley wrote: On Jan 28, 8:26 am, ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Bubba wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:20:55 -0800 (PST), ransley wrote: On Jan 24, 10:16 am, "Bonnie Jean" wrote: Renter here in a 1960's home. (I'm the one with loose electric outlets.) I have my gas hot water heater set on the arrow which I assume is average hot. When I shower, I don't turn on any cold water. In other words, just the hot water on is ok for a shower. If I'm feeling like a real hot shower, I'd have to decide the night before and turn up the water heater. Is this normal? Do you think this could be due to sediment? I don't think the heater is older than 10 years but it's not a real efficient one. It's in my heated basement and I put a "blanket" on it a month ago, hopefully to save a bit of money. Should I just turn it up to "A", "B" or "C"...which I assume is hotter since it's up the dial. I don't want to waste money. Thanks, bonnie Many gas water heater are 55% efficent new, and with scale they get worse, so if you dont want to waste money throw the tank away and dont shower, or join a health club and shower there. Where does HW go anyway, down the drain as in money down the drain. I gave up showering years ago and I never smelled better. Did you ever see an igloo with a shower, alot of folks have no HW. More dumbass bull**** from ransley posting numbers that just flew out of his ass. SHOW me documentation on just ONE SINGLE GAS WATERHEATER that is new and is only 55% efficient. Just one! You gave up showering? Ha Ha. Only you would be that cheap. Ransley the stinky skinflint. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ONE, I will show you 3 from ONE COMPANY, Bradford White, google it, or type in Bradfordwhite Energy Factor , they have one that is 53 EF even, and the highest of 70 in the NG regular lineup is about 63 EF. Your ignorance here really make you stand out- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA, girly fag boi you hidin boi, come out and dispute the facts !!!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is BUBBA to answer this life issue- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley you rant so much Is SAD seasonal affective disorder troubling you?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No , its BUB disorder, as in Bubba the child The boy is smitten with me. Just like the little dog pull toy I had when I was 3. "Come along little ransley. Im going to walk you now" Oh yeah, then I threw it out into the street and an 18 wheeler ran over it. Go find a big truck, will you ransley? Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do the neighbors think of you as Mr Fat Ass Bubba Dumb NUTZ,. if not what then, tel us, �but I think its Mr �Limpy she said �Yr a fag boi, � �So Fag Bubba................- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ransley you need a chill pill, ranting as you are means few if anyone will take you serious......... |
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