I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new ceramic
tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two screws at the
front. I had an awful time trying to determine where to put the holes for
the front screws - on the previous wood floor it was not a problem. I tried
putting the marker down the hole but when I tried to line up the the screws,
my holes were a little off - besides the screw would probably have to be
longer to compensate for the additional height due to the ceramics. In the
end, I just used the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no
leaks, no rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like
this in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?

How about setting the bowl down then use a small drill bit to mark the
holes?
"Ultraglide" wrote in message
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I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new ceramic
tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two screws at the
front. I had an awful time trying to determine where to put the holes for
the front screws - on the previous wood floor it was not a problem. I
tried putting the marker down the hole but when I tried to line up the the
screws, my holes were a little off - besides the screw would probably have
to be longer to compensate for the additional height due to the ceramics.
In the end, I just used the two rear bolts and everything seems to be
fine - no leaks, no rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a
situation like this in the future or did I try to make it harder than
necessary?

Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new
ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two
screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to determine where
to put the holes for the front screws - on the previous wood floor it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just used
the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no leaks, no
rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like this
in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?

You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off, the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal. Ultraglide has
good advice on how to do it.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

SteveBell wrote:
Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new
ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two
screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to determine where
to put the holes for the front screws - on the previous wood floor
it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but
when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate
for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just used
the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no leaks, no
rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like this
in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?

You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off,
the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal.

****Ultraglide has good advice on how to do it.*****

Ultraglide is the one who asked the question. Perhaps you meant
someone or something else?

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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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"Don & Lucille" wrote:

How about setting the bowl down then use a small drill bit to mark the
holes?


A transfer punch sounds like a nice refinement of your concept. These
come in sets of various outside diameters, with a sharp point on one
end. Used to transfer hole locations from a piece with holes to a piece
that needs mating holes.

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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SteveBell wrote:
Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new
ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two
screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to determine where
to put the holes for the front screws - on the previous wood floor
it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but
when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate
for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just used
the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no leaks, no
rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like this
in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?

You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off,
the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal.

****Ultraglide has good advice on how to do it.*****

Ultraglide is the one who asked the question. Perhaps you meant
someone or something else?

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Just a comment, the tank does not rock and there is no leak. The main
problem is that you can't access the hole with a drill because you can't
drill vertically. In addition there's not much room to swing a hammer if
you have a punch or similar device.

Ultraglide wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
SteveBell wrote:
Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new
ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two
screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to determine
where
to put the holes for the front screws - on the previous wood
floor
it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but
when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate
for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just
used
the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no leaks, no
rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like
this
in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?

You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off,
the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal.

****Ultraglide has good advice on how to do it.*****

Ultraglide is the one who asked the question. Perhaps you meant
someone or something else?

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Just a comment, the tank does not rock and there is no leak. The
main
problem is that you can't access the hole with a drill because you
can't drill vertically. In addition there's not much room to swing
a
hammer if you have a punch or similar device.

Just a thought, but how about some washable paint (the kind they sell
for kids that can be easily washed off of clothing and walls) in a
spray bottle for marking. Spray the hole copiously then wash the
paint off everything that it's not supposed to be on.

Is there enough clearance to go after it with a "close quarters" drill
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_hi...uarters+drill?

--
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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke wrote:

SteveBell wrote:
Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new
ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two
screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to determine where
to put the holes for the front screws - on the previous wood floor
it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but
when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate
for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just used
the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no leaks, no
rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like this
in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?

You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off,
the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal.

****Ultraglide has good advice on how to do it.*****

Ultraglide is the one who asked the question. Perhaps you meant
someone or something else?

Sorry about that, chief.

I guess Don & Lucille is the correct reference.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

Ultraglide wrote:


"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
SteveBell wrote:
Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has
new ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts
and two screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to
determine where to put the holes for the front screws - on the
previous wood floor it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but
when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate
for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just
used the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no
leaks, no rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a
situation like this in the future or did I try to make it
harder than necessary?

You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off,
the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal.

****Ultraglide has good advice on how to do it.*****

Ultraglide is the one who asked the question. Perhaps you meant
someone or something else?

-- -- --John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Just a comment, the tank does not rock and there is no leak. The
main problem is that you can't access the hole with a drill because
you can't drill vertically. In addition there's not much room to
swing a hammer if you have a punch or similar device.

You'll have to position the toilet, put something through the front
holes to mark the correct postion, remove the toilet, drill the holes,
replace the toilet with the wax seal, and fasten it down.

I use a pencil to mark the position, then a hammerdrill to make the
holes. You can get a flex shaft for your drill, but the punch will be
really hard to use.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

Ultraglide wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
SteveBell wrote:
Ultraglide wrote:

I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new
ceramic tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two
screws at the front. I had an awful time trying to determine where
to put the holes for the front screws - on the previous wood floor
it
was not a problem. I tried putting the marker down the hole but
when
I tried to line up the the screws, my holes were a little off -
besides the screw would probably have to be longer to compensate
for
the additional height due to the ceramics. In the end, I just used
the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no leaks, no
rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like this
in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?
You definitely need the bolts on the front. If you leave them off,
the
bowl will rock back and forth, breaking the wax seal.
****Ultraglide has good advice on how to do it.*****
Ultraglide is the one who asked the question. Perhaps you meant
someone or something else?

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Just a comment, the tank does not rock and there is no leak. The main
problem is that you can't access the hole with a drill because you can't
drill vertically. In addition there's not much room to swing a hammer if
you have a punch or similar device.


Drip the end of the drill bit in ink, mark the spots, pull the toilet
again, and drill the holes.

Personally, if I had it out anyway, I'd never put a weird toilet back.
(Unless maybe it was some strange style or color that matched all the
other fixtures, and replacing it would make the bathroom look wrong.)

--
aem sends...

This is relatively easy.

First remove the toilet and invert it. With a ruler measure the hole
pattern and drill it into a piece of plywood. Now insert pegs into the
holes in the plywood to make sure you have everything right.

When you are sure the holes in the plywood are right, attach the plywood to
the rear bolts and the holes in the front of the plywood are now in the
proper position to guide your drill without the tank being in the way.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.


"Ultraglide" wrote in message
...
I just reinstalled my toilet onto my bathroom floor which has new ceramic
tiles. It is the older style with two rear bolts and two screws at the
front. I had an awful time trying to determine where to put the holes for
the front screws - on the previous wood floor it was not a problem. I
tried
putting the marker down the hole but when I tried to line up the the
screws,
my holes were a little off - besides the screw would probably have to be
longer to compensate for the additional height due to the ceramics. In
the
end, I just used the two rear bolts and everything seems to be fine - no
leaks, no rocking. Any suggestions as to how to handle a situation like
this in the future or did I try to make it harder than necessary?