Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

wrote:
Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

disconnect all of the phones. try them one at a time, see if you can
narrow the issue down to one phone. If NONE of them work, try plugging
directly into the NID. If that works, you have an issue with the wiring
inside the house. If that still doesn't work, call the phone co.

Or just do what I did, go all cellular. Since Verizon seemed unable to
provide me with a line that worked reliably, I seemed unable to continue
to pay for their service.

nate

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wrote in message
...
Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

If you haven't turned the ringers off on all your phones, call the repair
people at your phone service provider...

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:44 GMT, wrote:

Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

My home phone doesn't ring either. Since I have a cell phone like
yourself I stopped the home service. That's my idea.

On Jul 11, 5:52*pm, wrote:
Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. *And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. *I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

I've always heard that a bad ground at the service entrance would
cause that.
Personally never seen it, but everyone who ever reported that problem
also reported that as the solution.

On Jul 11, 8:52*pm, wrote:
Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. *And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. *I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

If they are indeed standard telephone industry wired phones they
should ring. However if they are the sort of phones that need
electricity to operate that may be the problem?
Also there are wiring options within some, especially old-fashioned
and reconditioned Bell system type phones that allow the 'ringer'
inside to be connected or not.
Did your phones previously ring OK.
Have you added or made any other changes such as adding say a FAX
machine or voice answering unit or attaching your phone line to a home
computer?
Or has the phone line been hooked up to say, satellite TV receiver in
order to automatically dial and order movies etc.
However another possible problem, on very long telephone lines,
especially using el-cheapo 3rd world phones such as those often bought
for $10 to $20 at 'Around a buck' stores etc. is too many phone low
grade ringers on the one line!
A particularly aggravating case was a fireman not receiving urgent
phone calls after his two sons hooked cheap phones they received
'free' (made in Mexico or somewhere!) free magazine subscriptions.
Not saying that's what is happening but just a few suggestions.
Please post some more analysis.
If you can make outgoing calls without any crackling or noise it is
unlikely, but not impossible, that the pair of wires to your house
from the telephone building or wire centre, is faulty. The phone
company can often do a test without dispatching a repair person to
determine if the trouble is 'inside' or 'outside' your premises.
Also in these days of competition between telephone providers if the
problem turns out to be wiring or other factors within your house,
e.g. damp wall outlet phone jacks, condensation in the garage, in this
current humid weather etc. or defective or unsuitable phones there may
be $ charges.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:01:39 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote:

wrote:
Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

disconnect all of the phones. try them one at a time, see if you can
narrow the issue down to one phone. If NONE of them work, try plugging
directly into the NID. If that works, you have an issue with the wiring
inside the house. If that still doesn't work, call the phone co.

Or just do what I did, go all cellular.

Going cellular could be what I'd do, if there was decent cellular
signal here. It's usually weak (with frequent dropouts during calls).
I'm in town, but not that close to a business area.

Strangely, I can go out to the country, walk into the woods, and get a
good (4-5 bars) signal there.

Since Verizon seemed unable to
provide me with a line that worked reliably, I seemed unable to continue
to pay for their service.

nate
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"So far as I can remember, there is not one word
in the Gospels in praise of intelligence."
--Bertrand Russell

Call your home from your cell. While it's 'ringing', pick up the home
phone. Does your cell keep ringing, or do you 'answer'?

Nope. It answers. And it oesn't even say "incoming call."
I plugged a know good phone into the test jack. Same behavior, so I
guess it's their issue. At least I hope.

If they are indeed standard telephone industry wired phones they
should ring. However if they are the sort of phones that need
electricity to operate that may be the problem?

I took the AC-powered cordless phones out of the loop. I still have 3
wired phones with ringers turned on.

The last call we received was noon today.

We don't have fax or anything else connected to phone lines.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:44 GMT, wrote:

Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

And that makes it true?

Never assume your friends have accurately reported what happened.
Just today a friend told me something was wrong about his lights but
it wasn't wrong after all. And he's not stupid at all.

I would call myself... that it, you should call yourself on your cell,
and pick up one of your home phones while your cell is ringing, and
see if you can talk to yourself.

OOPS. THIS WILL TEACH ME TO READ THE WHOLE POST BEFORE STARTING A
REPLY.

If you can do that, I don't think there is any chance it is the pnone
company's fault, or your wiring's fault. (If you can't do that, I'd
be surprised, given that you can call out.)

Most likely it is the bells on the phones. Maybe your maid turned
them off to take a nap. Take the ppones to a neighbor, and one at a
time, connect each one and call him with your cell. See if your
phones ring at his house. Probably won't. Borrow one of his phones
with a bell that rings and see if it rings at your house.

Are these real phones, that weigh almost two pounds and are made by
Western Electric? If so, each one has a bell that is 1.0 RE, Ringer
EQuivalent. And there is a limit of about 3.0 or 4.0 RE per phone
line. But they probably aren't. If they only take 0.4 RE you'd have
to have more than 7 of them to overload the ringing circuit.


But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

wrote:

Someone called me on my cell and told me that they called my home
phone, and it just rang and rang.

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out. And I can call the home phone from my
cell, and I can answer the home phone and connect even though it isn't
ringing.

I have a Panasonic DECT phone with 3 handsets. I unplugged this, and
still, the wired phones in the garage and laundry room don't ring!

Any ideas?!?

Based on the symptoms you report, I'd give it a 90%+ chance that the
problem is in your SLIC card at the CO or RT, i.e. a telco problem. Plug
a single ordinary phone in at the NID box on the side of the house and
test there, if the symptoms remain the same it's the telco's issue with
the SLIC not sending ring voltage.

In article ,
wrote:

But I was right here...it never rang, and the machine didn't pick up.

Weird thing is, I can call out.

CBC

(Can't Be Called)

That is what you report to your telephone provider. It is likely that
the "ring generator" for your line has died.

Good luck!

JR
--

JR

That is what you report to your telephone provider. It is likely that
the "ring generator" for your line has died.

Yep...the phone rang this morning, and it was AT&T saying a box had
been hit by lightning and some fuses were knocked out.

Weird...I always though phones were all or nothing. I didn't know it
was possible for them to work but not be able to ring. Live and
learn.

wrote:
That is what you report to your telephone provider. It is likely that
the "ring generator" for your line has died.

Yep...the phone rang this morning, and it was AT&T saying a box had
been hit by lightning and some fuses were knocked out.

Weird...I always though phones were all or nothing. I didn't know it
was possible for them to work but not be able to ring. Live and
learn.
That may have been true in years gone
by, however, everything now is
on circuit boards including your line
circuit and access to switching and
ringing. Ringing is special because it
is high voltage and must be applied
to the line metalically. Voice, on the
other hand, is usually converted to
digital and then switched as a bit stream.

In article ,
wrote:

I always though phones were all or nothing.

In the days BEFORE pair-gain systems (remotes AWAY from the Central
Office), it WAS pretty much "all or nothing".

Today, especially with lines served by a remote terminal, virtually all
operations "reside" on one or more "cards".

A card is an electronic component that provides the dial tone,
voice/data transmission and ringing service. These functions, for ONE
line, often occupy DIFFERENT cards. The failure of one component can
often present "crippled" service but, as you discovered, usable service
in many cases.

I didn't know it was possible for them to work
but not be able to ring.

Most of the CBC calls I handled were simply the ringer on the phone was
turned OFF!

Live and learn.

Even today, the function of a "landline" uses a technology that was
perfected and applied world-wide in the late 19th century: The copper
pair operating at 48 VDC. (Ringing is ~100 VAC.)

Only now is the internet changing that inside the home, one Skype or
Vonage user at-a-time.

Still, ALL end devices (telephone, modem, cordless phone base station,
fax machine, answering machine, EKG remote, etc) use that technology.
--

JR

My phones don't ring either. But, then again, no one calls me..

Seriously, one time, when I was painting I shoved a cable wire (with a
coupler end on it) into the phone outlet to temporarily get it out of
the way...

That was a mistake as it shorted out the phones in the whole house so
that they never rang. My phone company provided answering service was
able to answer the calls when I never picked up. But my GF was not happy
and thought she was being avoided..

Today, especially with lines served by a remote terminal, virtually all
operations "reside" on one or more "cards".

Wow... you guys know a lot of stuff.
That's why I love it here.

wrote in news


Today, especially with lines served by a remote terminal, virtually all
operations "reside" on one or more "cards".

Wow... you guys know a lot of stuff.
That's why I love it here.


Excellent suck-up statement! :-)

In article ,
wrote:

Today, especially with lines served by a remote terminal,
virtually all operations "reside" on one or more "cards".

Wow... you guys know a lot of stuff.

Yeah... 35 years in the business and one can't help but pick-up some of
it! grin

That's why I love it here.

Me, too.

My experience has improved a LOT since I filtered-out the noise, spam
and other wasted bandwidth from Google.
--

JR

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:30:32 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote:

wrote:
That is what you report to your telephone provider. It is likely that
the "ring generator" for your line has died.

Yep...the phone rang this morning, and it was AT&T saying a box had
been hit by lightning and some fuses were knocked out.

Weird...I always though phones were all or nothing. I didn't know it
was possible for them to work but not be able to ring. Live and
learn.
That may have been true in years gone
by, however, everything now is
on circuit boards including your line
circuit and access to switching and
ringing. Ringing is special because it
is high voltage and must be applied

High voltage compared to the usual 12 volts.

About 80 volts AC iirc.

to the line metalically. Voice, on the
other hand, is usually converted to
digital and then switched as a bit stream.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:27:58 -0500, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Today, especially with lines served by a remote terminal,
virtually all operations "reside" on one or more "cards".

Wow... you guys know a lot of stuff.

Yeah... 35 years in the business and one can't help but pick-up some of
it! grin

That's why I love it here.

Me, too.

My experience has improved a LOT since I filtered-out the noise, spam
and other wasted bandwidth from Google.

What happened to all the commercial spam, 100 a day or more, I was
getting up to May? It disappeared either in May or June, and now I
get only 3 or 4 a day.

Did someone do something?

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:57:25 -0400, mm
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:30:32 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote:

wrote:
That is what you report to your telephone provider. It is likely that
the "ring generator" for your line has died.

Yep...the phone rang this morning, and it was AT&T saying a box had
been hit by lightning and some fuses were knocked out.

Weird...I always though phones were all or nothing. I didn't know it
was possible for them to work but not be able to ring. Live and
learn.
That may have been true in years gone
by, however, everything now is
on circuit boards including your line
circuit and access to switching and
ringing. Ringing is special because it
is high voltage and must be applied

High voltage compared to the usual 12 volts.

About 80 volts AC iirc.


Here I see 50VDC on an "on-hook" phone line, ringing adds 75VAC, so
the voltage would be varying from -25V to +125V.

to the line metalically. Voice, on the
other hand, is usually converted to
digital and then switched as a bit stream.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:57:25 -0400, mm
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:30:32 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote:

wrote:
That is what you report to your telephone provider. It is likely that
the "ring generator" for your line has died.

Yep...the phone rang this morning, and it was AT&T saying a box had
been hit by lightning and some fuses were knocked out.

Weird...I always though phones were all or nothing. I didn't know it
was possible for them to work but not be able to ring. Live and
learn.
That may have been true in years gone
by, however, everything now is
on circuit boards including your line
circuit and access to switching and
ringing. Ringing is special because it
is high voltage and must be applied

High voltage compared to the usual 12 volts.

About 80 volts AC iirc.


Here I see 50VDC on an "on-hook" phone line, ringing adds 75VAC, so
the voltage would be varying from -25V to +125V.

Negative earth so no electrolysis! Goes back to the old tram and trolley bus
days and phone cables with lead sheathing.
Almost all digital nowdays except for the ring trip relay.

Dave

to the line metalically. Voice, on the
other hand, is usually converted to
digital and then switched as a bit stream.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:04:05 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:57:25 -0400, mm
wrote:

That may have been true in years gone
by, however, everything now is
on circuit boards including your line
circuit and access to switching and
ringing. Ringing is special because it
is high voltage and must be applied

High voltage compared to the usual 12 volts.

About 80 volts AC iirc.


Here I see 50VDC on an "on-hook" phone line, ringing adds 75VAC, so
the voltage would be varying from -25V to +125V.

OK. We agree it's not 1000 or 10,000 volts, which is what I was afraid
someone would think of for high voltage.

to the line metalically. Voice, on the
other hand, is usually converted to
digital and then switched as a bit stream.