I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

Ron

On Jun 16, 7:18 am, Ron wrote:
I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

Do you want the ones that were grown to already have panels and
mortises?

R

"Ron" wrote in message
...
I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

Ron


Post this in rec.woodworking if you don't get enough responses here.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:18:31 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:

I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

Ron

Why would you need 80x32x2 wood? Since you speak about rails and
stiles, you will need floating panels of some kind, ply or glued-up
solid-wood panels. Poplar is a good choice if you paint. Making
custom doors without some experience can be a challenge, but there are
detailed instructions (books, magazines, etc) available to minimize
the frustrations.

Ron wrote:
....

does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

You wouldn't want to pay for it if you found it, I'm sure.

Assuming this isn't simply trolling, a solid panel would be far less
suitable than a glued-up one or, if not raised, ply.

As for source of supply, look in local yellow pages under "Hardwoods".

--

Ron wrote:
I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Ron, you simply cannot get a single 32" wide plank of any thickness or
length. All the trees that would've been big enough to produce a plank
that size were cut up decades ago.

There are problems with planks that big and thick is that they're not
stable. Most of them would've split during drying, and the few that
didn't, would've split in the ensuing years. The shrinking and
swelling stresses on such a large uninterrupted expanse of wood is
just more than wood grain can handle.

If you want a solid wood door, you need to join multiple narrower
planks to make one larger plank. The upside to this is dimensional
stability. It won't crack. The downside is that you'll end up with a
minimum of three grain patterns in the door because planks wider than
12" are nearly impossible to find.

If you want a single grain pattern, you need to use a veneer over a
solid wood core.

wrote:
Ron wrote:
....
... Buying wood for the rails and stiles ...

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Well, solid he does say; whether the object is a raised panel or slab
door is left at best indeterminate.

The post actually says he can buy the wood "for _THE_ rails and stiles"
which if read literally means he will be building a panel door; whether
raised or not isn't addressed.

One can also presume it means what you said it does, but it certainly
isn't conclusive.

OTOH, as others have pointed out and you in more detail, the idea of
making a door of a single 2" plank isn't the best in the world...

--

On Jun 16, 2:07 pm, dpb wrote:
wrote:
Ron wrote:
...
... Buying wood for the rails and stiles ...

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

Dude, panel doors are SOLID WOOD.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Okay, Sparky, then what's with the rails and stiles? If he has rails
and stiles why does he need a door sized piece of wood?

The OP's post is unclear as to his intentions, yours is just stupid,
but it's nice to see you sticking up for _your_ assumptions about
someone else's post.

Well, solid he does say; whether the object is a raised panel or slab
door is left at best indeterminate.

The post actually says he can buy the wood "for _THE_ rails and stiles"
which if read literally means he will be building a panel door; whether
raised or not isn't addressed.

One can also presume it means what you said it does, but it certainly
isn't conclusive.

OTOH, as others have pointed out and you in more detail, the idea of
making a door of a single 2" plank isn't the best in the world...

Probably closer to one of the worst ideas. Then again, if you don't
mind the width of the door varying by about half an inch with seasonal
changes in temperature and humidity, it would be simple, eh? Just
like a hollow core door only heavier...and less stable...and far more
expensive...and guaranteed to split...and... Well, you get the idea.

R

On Jun 16, 12:02*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Jun 16, 2:07 pm, dpb wrote:

wrote:
Ron wrote:
...
... Buying wood for the rails and stiles ...

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

Dude, panel doors are SOLID WOOD.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Okay, Sparky, then what's with the rails and stiles? *If he has rails
and stiles why does he need a door sized piece of wood?

The OP's post is unclear as to his intentions, yours is just stupid,
but it's nice to see you sticking up for _your_ assumptions about
someone else's post.

Well, solid he does say; whether the object is a raised panel or slab
door is left at best indeterminate.

The post actually says he can buy the wood "for _THE_ rails and stiles"
which if read literally means he will be building a panel door; whether
raised or not isn't addressed.

One can also presume it means what you said it does, but it certainly
isn't conclusive.

OTOH, as others have pointed out and you in more detail, the idea of
making a door of a single 2" plank isn't the best in the world...

Probably closer to one of the worst ideas. *Then again, if you don't
mind the width of the door varying by about half an inch with seasonal
changes in temperature and humidity, it would be simple, eh? *Just
like a hollow core door only heavier...and less stable...and far more
expensive...and guaranteed to split...and... *Well, you get the idea.

R

Sigh... Just for the record, some-- if not many-- solid wood doors
have a large slab of wood to which the rails and stiles are attached
over that piece of wood; particularly exterior doors. Finding wood for
those overlay pieces is easy enough; the problem is in finding a
source for the large, 1-1/2" thick ( not 2 inches) panel that the
other pieces will be attached to.

Ron

On Jun 16, 8:03 pm, Ron wrote:
On Jun 16, 12:02 pm, RicodJour wrote:



On Jun 16, 2:07 pm, dpb wrote:

wrote:
Ron wrote:
...
... Buying wood for the rails and stiles ...

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

Dude, panel doors are SOLID WOOD.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Okay, Sparky, then what's with the rails and stiles? If he has rails
and stiles why does he need a door sized piece of wood?

The OP's post is unclear as to his intentions, yours is just stupid,
but it's nice to see you sticking up for _your_ assumptions about
someone else's post.

Well, solid he does say; whether the object is a raised panel or slab
door is left at best indeterminate.

The post actually says he can buy the wood "for _THE_ rails and stiles"
which if read literally means he will be building a panel door; whether
raised or not isn't addressed.

One can also presume it means what you said it does, but it certainly
isn't conclusive.

OTOH, as others have pointed out and you in more detail, the idea of
making a door of a single 2" plank isn't the best in the world...

Probably closer to one of the worst ideas. Then again, if you don't
mind the width of the door varying by about half an inch with seasonal
changes in temperature and humidity, it would be simple, eh? Just
like a hollow core door only heavier...and less stable...and far more
expensive...and guaranteed to split...and... Well, you get the idea.

Sigh... Just for the record, some-- if not many-- solid wood doors
have a large slab of wood to which the rails and stiles are attached
over that piece of wood; particularly exterior doors. Finding wood for
those overlay pieces is easy enough; the problem is in finding a
source for the large, 1-1/2" thick ( not 2 inches) panel that the
other pieces will be attached to.

Huh? You're going to attach rails and stiles to the face of a solid
slab of wood and you don't anticipate problems? Do the words cross
and grain mean anything to you?

For the record, rail and stile construction came about to deal with
cross grain and expansion issues - you know, splitting. Jarrah is
rated as moderately to poorly stable. Read this and see how many
reasons you can find for not using a big ass slab of Jarrah:
http://www.connectedlines.com/wood/wood36.htm

Still not convinced? Try this: http://www.diadot.com/links/shrink.html
Your beautiful door will expand and contract between 1/4" and 1/2"
with only a 5% change in moisture. Maybe having a breeze push open
the door because the latch no longer engages the strike sounds
appealing, but I think it sounds appalling.

Maybe there's a reason that that supplier of big ass slab Jarrah doors
is out of business...?

R

On Jun 16, 10:37*am, wrote:
Ron wrote:
I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Ron, you simply cannot get a single 32" wide plank of any thickness or
length. All the trees that would've been big enough to produce a plank
that size were cut up decades ago.

There are problems with planks that big and thick is that they're not
stable. Most of them would've split during drying, and the few that
didn't, would've split in the ensuing years. The shrinking and
swelling stresses on such a large uninterrupted expanse of wood is
just more than wood grain can handle.

If you want a solid wood door, you need to join multiple narrower
planks to make one larger plank. The upside to this is dimensional
stability. It won't crack. The downside is that you'll end up with a
minimum of three grain patterns in the door because planks wider than
12" are nearly impossible to find.

If you want a single grain pattern, you need to use a veneer over a
solid wood core.

I had just seen an article where a guy was making 1-1/2" thick jarrah
wood doors. Unfortunately, he was also the sole supplier of the panels
listed in the article; when I went to see about them all I got was a
dead link, leaving me stuck with what looks like a really great
project but no way to finish it. I was hoping for once to be able to
find decent wood panels without having to try and glue smaller panels
together. But it seems like it's easier to find weapons grade
plutonium than a nice, wide, piece of wood. ;-(

Ron

On Jun 16, 1:37 pm, wrote:
Ron wrote:
I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

For all you retards that didn't read Ron's original post, he wants to
make SOLID WOOD doors.

He says he can get wood for stiles and rails, BUT he wants to buy
solid planks. He does NOT want to build a raised panel door.

Hmmm. I guess the retard is you after all, eh?

R

"Ron" wrote in message
...
I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

Ron

You take the same wood used for the rails and stiles and glue it together to
the width you want.

It may be possible to find a single piece 32" wide, but it would probably
cost as much as the house.

On Mon 16 Jun 2008 04:18:31a, Ron told us...

I want to make some custom solid wood doors and I hear that a wood
called jarrah has nice qualities though I would probably use
traditional woods like oak, ash, poplar, etc if they were more readily
available. Buying wood for the rails and stiles is easy enough, but
does anyone know of someplace where I can buy 80" x 32" x 2" wood
boards that I can use to make my doors with?

Ron


Uh, doors usually have a knob on each side and open either into or out of a
room. :-) Couldn't resist, because I don't have a clue what you need.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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