A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING

BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.

Lou

"LouB" wrote in message
...
A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the whole
damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into the
To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING

Or, use NewsProxy (or somesuch) and filter out googlegroups.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0400, LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING


In other words, react to a problem (usenet abuse) by CREATING MORE OF
IT.

BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.

Lou

On Apr 22, 2:54 pm, LouB wrote:

BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.

Way to go, Sparky... secret's out of the bag now.
-----

- gpsman

In article , Gary H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0400, LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING


In other words, react to a problem (usenet abuse) by CREATING MORE OF
IT.

Ummmm.... no. Read it again. He said to *forward* it to Google's abuse
account. That's an *email* complaint directly to Google.

Which is a fine idea, except for one tiny problem: Google doesn't care, and
won't do a damn thing about it. Easier to just killfile all GoogleGroups
traffic.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Join the UseNet Improvement Project: killfile Google Groups.
http://www.improve-usenet.org

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

Download Nfilter at http://www.milmac.com/np-120.exe

(Doug Miller) writes:

In article , Gary H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0400, LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING


In other words, react to a problem (usenet abuse) by CREATING MORE OF
IT.

Ummmm.... no. Read it again. He said to *forward* it to Google's abuse
account. That's an *email* complaint directly to Google.

Which is a fine idea, except for one tiny problem: Google doesn't care, and
won't do a damn thing about it. Easier to just killfile all GoogleGroups
traffic.

Yes. There is a "report abuse" link right on Google.
I did my part and reported plenty of spam.
Never made the slightest difference.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:41:21 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , Gary H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0400, LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING


In other words, react to a problem (usenet abuse) by CREATING MORE OF
IT.

Ummmm.... no. Read it again. He said to *forward* it to Google's abuse
account. That's an *email* complaint directly to Google.


OK, I'm a little bit off. You're reacting to a news problem by
creating an email problem. That's still reacting to a problem by
creating a problem.

Which is a fine idea, except for one tiny problem: Google doesn't care, and
won't do a damn thing about it. Easier to just killfile all GoogleGroups
traffic.

Yes.

LouB wrote:
A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING

BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.

Lou
I'm betting the folks at Google have filters in place so that they don't
have to see the complaints, LOL. If they actually read 1/4 of the
complaints, they'd have a clue already...

In article , Gary H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:41:21 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , Gary H
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0400, LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING


In other words, react to a problem (usenet abuse) by CREATING MORE OF
IT.

Ummmm.... no. Read it again. He said to *forward* it to Google's abuse
account. That's an *email* complaint directly to Google.


OK, I'm a little bit off. You're reacting to a news problem by
creating an email problem. That's still reacting to a problem by
creating a problem.

Sure, but you have to look at who it's creating an email problem *for*:
Google. The same clowns who are responsible for the news problem.

What's wrong with that?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Join the UseNet Improvement Project: killfile Google Groups.
http://www.improve-usenet.org

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

Download Nfilter at http://www.milmac.com/np-120.exe

On 4/22/2008 6:09 PM Lee spake thus:

LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING

BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.

I'm betting the folks at Google have filters in place so that they don't
have to see the complaints, LOL. If they actually read 1/4 of the
complaints, they'd have a clue already...

They have a clue or three, of that you can be sure. As someone else
pointed out, they just don't give a **** about it.


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.

- Attributed to Winston Churchill

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com...
On 4/22/2008 6:09 PM Lee spake thus:

LouB wrote:

A suggestion:

If you have a little time open each spam and view the header.
Actually just open it and then click *Forward* You should see the
whole
header.
If the X-Abuse line shows then *Forward* the
whole damn thing to .
Just copy and then use Ctrl V to paste it into
the To

Maybe if a lot of us keep at it the folks at google will:
1. Get the message
2. Get tired of being flooded with complaints
3. DO SOMETHING

BTW I use a munged *From* so Google can not even complain back at me.

I'm betting the folks at Google have filters in place so that they don't
have to see the complaints, LOL. If they actually read 1/4 of the
complaints, they'd have a clue already...

They have a clue or three, of that you can be sure. As someone else
pointed out, they just don't give a **** about it.


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.

- Attributed to Winston Churchill

Is it possible that google is just waiting until most isp's give up on
newservers, then they will "takeover" and then fix the problem they created?

On 4/23/2008 7:55 PM stu spake thus:

Is it possible that google is just waiting until most isp's give up on
newservers, then they will "takeover" and then fix the problem they created?

Definitely possible, likely even. They might "fix" Usenet by just
eliminating it altogether.


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.

- Attributed to Winston Churchill