Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Thanks in advance,
-Matthew D. Diez

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:32:05 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

Tell me the truth, are you a mold expert?!!

--
Oren

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:32:05 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

Tell me the truth, are you a mold expert?!!

--
Oren

wrote

back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

Matt, I think it more likely you change something at night, shch as close
the door or windows (safety thing possibly). Possibly some fan you run in
the daytime is turned off? Thats allowing the smell to build?

On Feb 21, 3:32*pm, wrote:
Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Thanks in advance,
-Matthew D. Diez

If you still smell it you didnt kill it all , if it was in the wall
its in the floor below, maybe a garden sprayer with bleach in it
sprayed everywhere the leak flowed to. Of ot was inbetween the walls
drill holes and start spraying a few gallons

On Feb 22, 6:33 am, ransley wrote:
On Feb 21, 3:32 pm, wrote:



Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Thanks in advance,
-Matthew D. Diez

If you still smell it you didnt kill it all , if it was in the wall
its in the floor below, maybe a garden sprayer with bleach in it
sprayed everywhere the leak flowed to. Of ot was inbetween the walls
drill holes and start spraying a few gallons

I just bought a dehumidifier, and ran it all night. No mold smell this
AM.

So, this seems to confirm my suspicion about nighttime humidity
reigniting it.

Any experience with vinegar instead of bleach?

On Feb 22, 5:57 am, "cshenk" wrote:
wrote

back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

Matt, I think it more likely you change something at night, shch as close
the door or windows (safety thing possibly). Possibly some fan you run in
the daytime is turned off? Thats allowing the smell to build?

Doors and windows are closed all day long, also, I'm not running any
fans or A/C units.

However, I just bought a dehumidifier and ran it all night, and now I
have no mold smell
whatsoever. I -am- concerned about it coming back. Perhaps I'll check
for small cracks/fissures
in the walls where outside moisture might be entering.

wrote:

Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Thanks in advance,
-Matthew D. Diez


Night air wouldn't change your environment as far as I know. Is the
smell local to where the
leak was, or throughout the house? How extensive was the damage?
Where? Where do you
notice the odor? Two things come to mind: carpet, bedding, clothing
might have soaked up
the odor....cleaning/laundering them might help. Second, if you close
up the house or a particular
room in the evening, then less circulating air might make the smell more
pronounced.

What kind of cabinets were affected? How repaired? What about
flooring? More info would
help, perhaps.

I repapered a bath about three years ago - the old paper was peeling and
had mildew along the
seams that had begun to open. I washed the wall well with bleach before
putting on the new
paper, but I noticed the same area is beginning to darken. I am sure
the mildew is back, but
I'm not going to paper again until I need to. This is an outside wall,
and our bath appears to have
studs that are 2" rather than 4". Concrete block and stucco, Florida.
I suspect there is moisture
in the wall - perhaps sucked in through outlets or other openings and
condensing when it cools???
The outside wall is south facing,
gets a lot of sun during the day, so I suppose it could warm up enough
to pull moist air into the wall space.
I can't figure out any other reason for the mildew - the outside of the
wall is sound, no cracks or
peeling paint.

wrote in message
...
On Feb 22, 5:57 am, "cshenk" wrote:
wrote

back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

Matt, I think it more likely you change something at night, shch as close
the door or windows (safety thing possibly). Possibly some fan you run
in
the daytime is turned off? Thats allowing the smell to build?

Doors and windows are closed all day long, also, I'm not running any
fans or A/C units.

However, I just bought a dehumidifier and ran it all night, and now I
have no mold smell
whatsoever. I -am- concerned about it coming back. Perhaps I'll check
for small cracks/fissures
in the walls where outside moisture might be entering.




You said it's extremely humid where you live. Then, you say the house is
closed all day long, and you run no fans or AC. That sounds disgusting.

I have a constitutional right to be wrong, but I'm gonna go out on a limb
here and suggest that maybe you had the beginnings of a problem BEFORE the
plumbing leak.

On Feb 22, 8:21*am, wrote:
On Feb 22, 6:33 am, ransley wrote:





On Feb 21, 3:32 pm, wrote:

Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Thanks in advance,
-Matthew D. Diez

If you still smell it you didnt kill it all , if it was in the wall
its in the floor below, maybe a garden sprayer with bleach in it
sprayed everywhere the leak flowed to. Of ot was inbetween the walls
drill holes and start spraying a few gallons

I just bought a dehumidifier, and ran it all night. No mold smell this
AM.

So, this seems to confirm my suspicion about nighttime humidity
reigniting it.

Any experience with vinegar instead of bleach?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bleach kills mold by removing oxygen to the plant, vinegar might be
food for it. Spray the infected area with alot of bleach completely,
its cheaper than vinegar also. If its inbetween walls , drill holes
and use a garden sprayer.

On Feb 21, 4:32 pm, wrote:
Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Thanks in advance,
-Matthew D. Diez

High humidity make mold active. Suppose your room humidity 50% at 80F
during the day -- mold is suppressed. The same air will be at 100% RH
if the room temperature drops to 60, making the mold active. So if
your air is not circulating, and night temperature is significantly
lower than day temperature, mold might be active.

wrote:
Well, as a followup, I managed to fix the source of the water leak in
my wall (overflowing sewer pipe that wasn't capped during a botched
later-nineties remodel ).

Anyway, that leak had caused a nasty mold infestation on my drywall
and in the cabinets.

So, I figured, with the water leak closed off, and the walls and
cabinets scrubbed down and Cloroxed, and, all rotten wood or drywall
removed, then treated all of it with Concrobium, that I'd have the
mold smell licked.

And, I was largely right, until it hit sunset, and the smell came
back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

2. So, what do I need to do? I'll be buying a dehumidifier, but I
don't really want to run it 24/7/365. Can I install some sort of
moisture barrier between my masonry (concrete block) walls and the
drywall/wood bolted to it?

Only at night?

Does something snuggle up next to you in the darkness, something that needs
a "little lovin'?"

Maybe a wet dog?

As I said, the mold was in the backs and bottoms of the cabinets and
drywall.
The leak spilled onto the backs and bottoms of the cabinets and
drywall and concrete blocks.
The mold smell comes from the cabinets and drywall and concrete
blocks.
There is no mold nor mold smell elsewhere in the house.

It's quite possible that the wall (south and east facing) is doing
like yours did.

The cabinets are the standard-issue fare that you may purchase at any
home-improvement store.
Night air wouldn't change your environment as far as I know. Is the
smell local to where the
leak was, or throughout the house? How extensive was the damage?
Where? Where do you
notice the odor? Two things come to mind: carpet, bedding, clothing
might have soaked up
the odor....cleaning/laundering them might help. Second, if you close
up the house or a particular
room in the evening, then less circulating air might make the smell more
pronounced.

What kind of cabinets were affected? How repaired? What about
flooring? More info would
help, perhaps.

I repapered a bath about three years ago - the old paper was peeling and
had mildew along the
seams that had begun to open. I washed the wall well with bleach before
putting on the new
paper, but I noticed the same area is beginning to darken. I am sure
the mildew is back, but
I'm not going to paper again until I need to. This is an outside wall,
and our bath appears to have
studs that are 2" rather than 4". Concrete block and stucco, Florida.
I suspect there is moisture
in the wall - perhaps sucked in through outlets or other openings and
condensing when it cools???
The outside wall is south facing,
gets a lot of sun during the day, so I suppose it could warm up enough
to pull moist air into the wall space.
I can't figure out any other reason for the mildew - the outside of the
wall is sound, no cracks or
peeling paint.

On Feb 22, 9:42 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Feb 22, 5:57 am, "cshenk" wrote:
wrote

back. As it turns out, the mold smell comes back at night, and then
every day, goes away. I'm guessing this is due to the condensation and
the night air in my extremely humid (South Louisiana) climate.
Sooo:
1. Does that seem to make sense that night air is reigniting my mold?

Matt, I think it more likely you change something at night, shch as close
the door or windows (safety thing possibly). Possibly some fan you run
in
the daytime is turned off? Thats allowing the smell to build?

Doors and windows are closed all day long, also, I'm not running any
fans or A/C units.

However, I just bought a dehumidifier and ran it all night, and now I
have no mold smell
whatsoever. I -am- concerned about it coming back. Perhaps I'll check
for small cracks/fissures
in the walls where outside moisture might be entering.

You said it's extremely humid where you live. Then, you say the house is
closed all day long, and you run no fans or AC. That sounds disgusting.

It's 70 during the day and mid-fifties at night. No need to run fans
or A/C right now.
In a couple of months, however, they'll become a necessity.

I have a constitutional right to be wrong, but I'm gonna go out on a limb
here and suggest that maybe you had the beginnings of a problem BEFORE the
plumbing leak.

It's quite possible that the walls could have been wicking moisture in
before the leak, true.

wrote:

As I said, the mold was in the backs and bottoms of the cabinets and
drywall.
The leak spilled onto the backs and bottoms of the cabinets and
drywall and concrete blocks.
The mold smell comes from the cabinets and drywall and concrete
blocks.
There is no mold nor mold smell elsewhere in the house.

It's quite possible that the wall (south and east facing) is doing
like yours did.

The cabinets are the standard-issue fare that you may purchase at any
home-improvement store.


Bath? Kitchen? If possible, it might help to keep the room closed
(easier for a bath, I'm sure)
and keep a dehumidifier running. If the wall was open, was the concrete
block sprayed with
bleach? CB will never dry out completely, AFAIK, so it could continue
to give off odor. That might be the source of the odor, in
which case completely sealing the room might help - caulk around all
receptacles, baseboards,
etc. Paint or seal all surfaces of cabinets that were affected and not
otherwise sealed (under
shelves, etc.). Cabinets taken off the wall and back surface cleaned?
Just a thought )
And the roof, siding, windows and fascia are in good shape and not
letting in moisture?

In article , JoeSpareBedroom
wrote:

I have a constitutional right to be wrong, but I'm gonna go out on a limb
here and suggest that maybe you had the beginnings of a problem BEFORE the
plumbing leak.


Just for the record, there is nothing in the United States Constitution
about having a right to be wrong, but we know what you meant.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

"Frank Warner" wrote in message
. ..
In article , JoeSpareBedroom
wrote:

I have a constitutional right to be wrong, but I'm gonna go out on a limb
here and suggest that maybe you had the beginnings of a problem BEFORE
the
plumbing leak.


Just for the record, there is nothing in the United States Constitution
about having a right to be wrong, but we know what you meant.

-Frank


I think it's part of the 147th amendment.



--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/


Nice knives. What's a good way to touch up the edge of a really nice set of
barber's scissors? Japanese water stone, maybe? The scissors aren't a wreck,
just old, and beginning to tug on beard hairs just a bit.

"ransley" wrote

Bleach kills mold by removing oxygen to the plant, vinegar might be
food for it. Spray the infected area with alot of bleach completely,
its cheaper than vinegar also. If its inbetween walls , drill holes
and use a garden sprayer.

Are you sure the drilling holes and spraying is safe? He's apt to have
electrical cables back there and bleach can damage the coatings.

ransley wrote:
Bleach kills mold by removing oxygen to the plant, vinegar might be
food for it.

Naw, vinegar kills mold pretty well. Had to use it on our carpets in the
apartment we had last.

--
Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/print/...munist-mentor/

replying to HeyBub, Ma.bryant2 wrote:
We are having the same problem in our home that we recently bought. The house
was a foreclosure and sat vacant for a year. Mold has been treated in the
crawl space, but keeps recurring. I notice the musty odor in the evenings and
night, must have something to do w condensation on our floorboards. Just a
thought.

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On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:44:02 GMT, Ma.bryant2
m wrote:

Avoid Camembert and Brie the day before(Olde Stilton is also
dangerous), and all should be well.
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We have a new policy - Google 2012

replying to NA, jamoral wrote:
I have the same issue in a house in the mountains in Spain. This is the only
theory that makes sense.

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