Secrecy is the key.


New Hampshire Primary - Sham Chain of Custody:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM


Vote Fraud in New Hampshi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moay6TFSVGg


Vote Fraud in New Hampshire - "Hacking Democracy" Documentary
Summary:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA_i-Vmfnvk

In article
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wrote:

Secrecy is the key.

The only way an election can be honest if it is an open election.
Secret ballots were made for fraud. Would you trust your money to a
bank that could not audit its books? Why trust your freedom to a secret?

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

"Stephen King" wrote in message
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Just follow whatever GWB did/does. He's the master of lies.

Yes. Thank GAWD Hillary doesn't tell any lies......

"Stephen King" wrote in message
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"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in
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"Stephen King" wrote in message
...
Just follow whatever GWB did/does. He's the master of lies.

Yes. Thank GAWD Hillary doesn't tell any lies......



Yes, that's right.

Keep living in your dream world.

Why don't you stay out of politics and go back to writing again. You haven't
written anything worth a **** since The Stand....

wrote in message news:347f23d4-b2b9-45a0-94ef-
Vote Fraud in New Hampshi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moay6TFSVGg


That's election fraud - not voter fraud.

Voter fraud is when people vote more than once.
Election fraud is when voters are illegally excluded or votes are delibreately
mis-counted.

Voter fraud almost never happens. And matters even less. Election fraud should
be classified as treason, as it defeats the democracy we are supposed to have.

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:45:55 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:


wrote in message news:347f23d4-b2b9-45a0-94ef-
Vote Fraud in New Hampshi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moay6TFSVGg


That's election fraud - not voter fraud.


Call it what you want. Arguing semantics is unimportant.


Voter fraud is when people vote more than once.
Election fraud is when voters are illegally excluded or votes are delibreately
mis-counted.

Voter fraud almost never happens. And matters even less. Election fraud should
be classified as treason, as it defeats the democracy we are supposed to have.



I say paper ballots only. Everywhere.

Electronic voting should be banned.

How To Commit Voter Fraud - A Primer On The Theft Of America

Group: alt.home.repair Date: Wed, Feb 6, 2008, 1:37am (EST+5) From:
com (Dr.*Hardcrab)
"Stephen King" wrote in message
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"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in
news:uu6qj.30681$xE.875@trnddc01:
"Stephen King" wrote in message
...
Just follow whatever GWB did/does. He's the master of lies.
Yes. Thank GAWD Hillary doesn't tell any lies......
Yes, that's right.
Keep living in your dream world.
Why don't you stay out of politics and go back to writing again. You
haven't written anything worth a **** since The Stand....

==================

That doesn't make sense. Would you tell a fireman the same
thing?...'you haven't put out a fire since last month, so stay out of
politics'....?

Of couse SK is wrong about Hillary. But I'll defend his right to be
wrong forever.

"Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"- Groucho Marx

On Feb 6, 8:29*pm, Pisano wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:45:55 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:



wrote in message news:347f23d4-b2b9-45a0-94ef-
Vote Fraud in New Hampshi

* * * *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moay6TFSVGg

That's election fraud - not voter fraud.

* * * * Call it what you want. *Arguing semantics is unimportant..

Voter fraud is when people vote more than once.
Election fraud is when voters are illegally excluded or votes are delibreately
mis-counted.

Voter fraud almost never happens. And matters even less. Election fraud should
be classified as treason, as it defeats the democracy we are supposed to have.

* * * * I say paper ballots only. *Everywhere.

* * * * Electronic voting should be banned.

Funny, there have been just as many problems reported with paper
ballots as have been reported with electronic voting. Seems there are
huge problems with the counting equipment being able to accurately
read the marks, problems with wrong pencils being used, problems with
programming. There is NO fool proof voting system especially
considering the number of fools.

In article
,
BobR wrote:


Funny, there have been just as many problems reported with paper
ballots as have been reported with electronic voting. Seems there are
huge problems with the counting equipment being able to accurately
read the marks, problems with wrong pencils being used, problems with
programming. There is NO fool proof voting system especially
considering the number of fools.

Problems even when the paper ballots were still counted by hand. And
fraud, pretty much any Chicago election in the 50s and 60s.
I have since managed to lose the bookmark, but there was a California
Supreme Court decision that allowed the recall election to go ahead that
included an absolutely fascinating discussion of the error factors
involved in the various types of vote counts. The most interesting to me
was that all they looked at (hole punch, the ones that look like SAT
cards, even hand counted) had roughly the same error rates.

Pisano wrote:

I say paper ballots only. Everywhere.

Electronic voting should be banned.

You think that's bad. Some states are using the INTERNET to vote.

My plan is simpler: Close registration on Jan 31st and pay a small fee to
register. Modest intelligence test required. You must own taxable property
to vote on bond issues. Modest intelligence test necessary. Employees of any
branch of government cannot vote.

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:53:40 -0800 (PST), BobR
wrote:

On Feb 6, 8:29*pm, Pisano wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:45:55 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:



wrote in message news:347f23d4-b2b9-45a0-94ef-
Vote Fraud in New Hampshi

* * * *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moay6TFSVGg

That's election fraud - not voter fraud.

* * * * Call it what you want. *Arguing semantics is unimportant.

Voter fraud is when people vote more than once.
Election fraud is when voters are illegally excluded or votes are delibreately
mis-counted.

Voter fraud almost never happens. And matters even less. Election fraud should
be classified as treason, as it defeats the democracy we are supposed to have.

* * * * I say paper ballots only. *Everywhere.

* * * * Electronic voting should be banned.

Funny, there have been just as many problems reported with paper
ballots as have been reported with electronic voting. Seems there are
huge problems with the counting equipment being able to accurately
read the marks, problems with wrong pencils being used, problems with
programming. There is NO fool proof voting system especially
considering the number of fools.


And electronic voting exponentially increases that potential.

In article ,
Pisano wrote:


And electronic voting exponentially increases that potential.


Define "electronic voting". The Calif Supremes thing I mentioned
earlier did not find any differences, although it was before touch
screens got going. I have always thought that no paper trail was a bad
idea if for no other reason than a Blue Screen of Death.

On Feb 7, 11:52*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Pisano wrote:

I say paper ballots only. *Everywhere.

Electronic voting should be banned.

You think that's bad. Some states are using the INTERNET to vote.

My plan is simpler: Close registration on Jan 31st and pay a small fee to
register. Modest intelligence test required. You must own taxable property
to vote on bond issues. Modest intelligence test necessary. Employees of any
branch of government cannot vote.



Too restrictive.

On Feb 7, 1:25*pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,

*Pisano wrote:

* *And electronic voting exponentially increases that potential.

* *Define "electronic voting". The Calif Supremes thing I mentioned
earlier did not find any differences, although it was before touch
screens got going. I have always thought that no paper trail was a bad
idea if for no other reason than a Blue Screen of Death.



Secrecy is the key.


New Hampshire Primary - Sham Chain of Custody:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM


Vote Fraud in New Hampshi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moay6TFSVGg


Vote Fraud in New Hampshire - "Hacking Democracy" Documentary
Summary:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA_i-Vmfnvk

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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[snip]
You must own taxable property to vote on bond issues. Modest intelligence
test necessary. Employees of any branch of government cannot vote.
1. The essence of conservative ideology is that people are able to think
for themselves and make their own decisions. Just because you don't like
their decisions doesn't mean they aren't allowed to make them. One
consequence of your statement, which is extreme left in ideology, is that
military members would not be able to vote, nor presumably National Guard,
police, etc.

2. Actually, a part of your concept has been in place for years. Knowing
that a majority of military are conservative or Republican, where it can be
done local Democrat-controlled election boards routinely mail out absentee
ballots to military addresses at such a late date that it is impossible to
return them by the election date. For three presidential elections in a
row, my absentee ballot arrived at my duty station on election day eve,
election day, or the day after, too late to be returned before the polls
closed.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Pisano wrote:

I say paper ballots only. Everywhere.

Electronic voting should be banned.

You think that's bad. Some states are using the INTERNET to vote.

My plan is simpler: Close registration on Jan 31st and pay a small fee to
register. Modest intelligence test required. You must own taxable property to
vote on bond issues. Modest intelligence test necessary. Employees of any
branch of government cannot vote.

So, you won't let soldiers vote?