Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned front to
back 180°?

a

"a" wrote in message news%Nkj.8944$vp3.2624@edtnps90...
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned front to
back 180°?

a

Stand in the door with your back to the hinges. If the door opens to your
right then it is right hand. Similiar for left. Whether it is in or out
swing is your choice.

Joseph Meehan wrote:


"a" wrote in message news%Nkj.8944$vp3.2624@edtnps90...
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned
front to back 180°?

a

No. If you turned it around it would open in rather than out.



Aha - see - I want an outswing RH Door. From this page:
http://www.homesteadhardware.com/help_and_info.htm (Handing Section)

The door on the upper left is the same door on the lower right and vise
versa, no? Just depends on what side you're standing on!

I want a closet door with the hinges on the right and when I open it from
outside the closet (in the rec room), I want it to swing toward me - not
into the closet.

The door in the lower right is the one - so I need a RH outswing, or a LH
inswing?

a

Pat wrote:
"a" wrote in message news%Nkj.8944$vp3.2624@edtnps90...
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned front to
back 180°?

a

Stand in the door with your back to the hinges. If the door opens to your
right then it is right hand. Similiar for left. Whether it is in or out
swing is your choice.



It makes a big difference when you buy a pre-hung door though - it's
already in the jam so it's 'swingedness' is already decided when I order...

a

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:13:29 GMT, a wrote:

Pat wrote:
"a" wrote in message news%Nkj.8944$vp3.2624@edtnps90...
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned front to
back 180°?

a

Stand in the door with your back to the hinges. If the door opens to your
right then it is right hand. Similiar for left. Whether it is in or out
swing is your choice.



It makes a big difference when you buy a pre-hung door though - it's
already in the jam so it's 'swingedness' is already decided when I order...

a

A local *real* door store; here, demonstrates the door swings using
the western saloon style doors. The buyer can show the guy the swing
and buy a custom ordered door. Hinge side and swing it the only way I
remember

Oren
--

a wrote:
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned front
to back 180°?

a

Inswing and outswing only apply to exterior doors that have a threshold.
If it is an interior door, it matters not whether it is inswing or
outswing. You order a LH or a RH and put it in the way that you want.

On the exterior door, the threshold is configured for inswing or
outswing. They should not be reversed. And no, they are not just the
same door turned around. The thresholds and the glass (if it has glass)
will be different.

Stand in the doorway with the door open. Put your back to the hinges.
If the door is on your right, it is a RH. If the door is on your left,
it is a LH.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

a wrote:
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned front to
back 180°?

a


Work it out with the firm you buy the door from.

There is too much confusion on this issue and the designation differs,
even amongst door manufacturers.

Robert Allison wrote:
a wrote:
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned
front to back 180°?

a

Inswing and outswing only apply to exterior doors that have a threshold.
If it is an interior door, it matters not whether it is inswing or
outswing. You order a LH or a RH and put it in the way that you want.

On the exterior door, the threshold is configured for inswing or
outswing. They should not be reversed. And no, they are not just the
same door turned around. The thresholds and the glass (if it has glass)
will be different.

Stand in the doorway with the door open. Put your back to the hinges.
If the door is on your right, it is a RH. If the door is on your left,
it is a LH.


A prehung interior door is not symmetrical font to back as it is set in the
jams already. It is prehung 'flush' with one side of the jam surround.

a

You are really close to having it figured out.

Pat gave you the correct answer in the first response. Forget
inswing and outswing. Put your back to the proposed hinge side of
the door, whichever hand and arm would be the door is the "hand"
of the door. The normal way to look at a door is standing on the
approach side with the door swinging away from you. If the door
pulls toward you, it is a "reverse" door in commercial hardware
parlance. This only makes a difference on mortise locks and some
closers and hold open devices although most of them have become
reversible. A left hand door is the same as a right hand reverse
door, it is a great system for people who deal with it and
understand it. Avoid the confusion -

Just stay with the "back to the hinges" method, you can't go
wrong.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"a" wrote in message
news:SGPkj.12964$yQ1.2777@edtnps89...
Joseph Meehan wrote:


"a" wrote in message
news%Nkj.8944$vp3.2624@edtnps90...
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just
turned front to back 180°?

a

No. If you turned it around it would open in rather than
out.



Aha - see - I want an outswing RH Door. From this page:
http://www.homesteadhardware.com/help_and_info.htm (Handing
Section)

The door on the upper left is the same door on the lower right
and vise versa, no? Just depends on what side you're standing
on!

I want a closet door with the hinges on the right and when I
open it from outside the closet (in the rec room), I want it to
swing toward me - not into the closet.

The door in the lower right is the one - so I need a RH
outswing, or a LH inswing?

a

Simpson wrote:
a wrote:
Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned
front to back 180°?

a


Work it out with the firm you buy the door from.

There is too much confusion on this issue and the designation differs,
even amongst door manufacturers.


That's good advice, however, I'm sure no matter how much I explain, draw
diagrams, plans, provide photos, do an interpretive dance for the person
taking my order - it'll be the wrong door that arrives!

a

DanG wrote:
You are really close to having it figured out.

Pat gave you the correct answer in the first response. Forget
inswing and outswing. Put your back to the proposed hinge side of
the door, whichever hand and arm would be the door is the "hand"
of the door. The normal way to look at a door is standing on the
approach side with the door swinging away from you. If the door
pulls toward you, it is a "reverse" door in commercial hardware
parlance. This only makes a difference on mortise locks and some
closers and hold open devices although most of them have become
reversible. A left hand door is the same as a right hand reverse
door, it is a great system for people who deal with it and
understand it. Avoid the confusion -

Just stay with the "back to the hinges" method, you can't go
wrong.


OK - cool, but my problem now is that every prehung *interior* LH door that
I've seen (so far) has a "threashold". Not a real one, but if I were to
install it, it would be 'sunk in' 4".
I want:


| |
--- ----
/
/
/


All I've seen (prehung) is:


| /|
--- / ----
/

Walk up to your bedroom door. The door will be opening away from
you, swinging into the room. The door will be flush with the
inside bedroom wall surfaces. If the hinges are on your right
hand side, it is a right hand door. If you had the door open, you
put your back to the hinges, your right arm would be the door
swinging till it latches flush on the inside bedroom wall surface.

Walk up to your closet door. the door will be opening toward you,
swinging away from the closet. The door will be flush with the
outside wall surfaces. If the hinges are on your right hand side,
it is a left hand door also known as a right hand reverse. Open
the door, put your back to the hinges, your left arm is now the
one swinging like the door does. It can swing until it latches
against the door stops, it will be flush with the
outside-the-closet surface.

Interior doors do NOT have thresholds. No door can swing as you
tried to draw, they cannot go past the door stops, they have to be
flush on the swinging side, the hinge barrels have to stick out on
the side of the jamb where the door opens.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"a" wrote in message news:I8Skj.13007$yQ1.609@edtnps89...
DanG wrote:
You are really close to having it figured out.

Pat gave you the correct answer in the first response. Forget
inswing and outswing. Put your back to the proposed hinge side
of the door, whichever hand and arm would be the door is the
"hand" of the door. The normal way to look at a door is
standing on the approach side with the door swinging away from
you. If the door pulls toward you, it is a "reverse" door in
commercial hardware parlance. This only makes a difference on
mortise locks and some closers and hold open devices although
most of them have become reversible. A left hand door is the
same as a right hand reverse door, it is a great system for
people who deal with it and understand it. Avoid the
confusion -

Just stay with the "back to the hinges" method, you can't go
wrong.


OK - cool, but my problem now is that every prehung *interior*
LH door that I've seen (so far) has a "threashold". Not a real
one, but if I were to install it, it would be 'sunk in' 4".
I want:


| |
--- ----
/
/
/


All I've seen (prehung) is:


| /|
--- / ----
/

Interior doors do NOT have thresholds.


Interior doors used for sound control can have thresholds.

a wrote:
Robert Allison wrote:

a wrote:

Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned
front to back 180°?

a


Inswing and outswing only apply to exterior doors that have a
threshold. If it is an interior door, it matters not whether it is
inswing or outswing. You order a LH or a RH and put it in the way
that you want.

On the exterior door, the threshold is configured for inswing or
outswing. They should not be reversed. And no, they are not just the
same door turned around. The thresholds and the glass (if it has
glass) will be different.

Stand in the doorway with the door open. Put your back to the hinges.
If the door is on your right, it is a RH. If the door is on your
left, it is a LH.


A prehung interior door is not symmetrical font to back as it is set in
the jams already. It is prehung 'flush' with one side of the jam surround.

a


Are you looking for a door that is hung in the middle of the jamb? All
doors are flush with the door side of the jamb. I am not sure what your
point is supposed to be.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

a wrote:

Simpson wrote:

a wrote:

Is a LH Inswing door identical to a RH Outswing door, just turned
front to back 180°?

a



Work it out with the firm you buy the door from.

There is too much confusion on this issue and the designation differs,
even amongst door manufacturers.


That's good advice, however, I'm sure no matter how much I explain, draw
diagrams, plans, provide photos, do an interpretive dance for the person
taking my order - it'll be the wrong door that arrives!

a

Then you didn't order the correct door. I don't have that problem and I
order about 300-400 doors per year.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Joseph, are you awake this morning? That's what he just asked.


Thank you - someone who understands!

;0)

a

Stormin Mormon wrote:
With two choices to choose what to ship, why is there about 95% chance of
shipping the wrong one?


My luck?

;0)

a

a wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:

With two choices to choose what to ship, why is there about 95% chance
of shipping the wrong one?


My luck?

;0)

a

Then you should stop using the big box stores for your doors. I will
bet that your luck will change for the better.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX