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I'm trying to dull the tapping noise from the pipes in my ceiling.
What materials could I use to deaden the noise? I tried cork tiles
but that had no effect whatsoever on the noise.

I've read that the idea is to use many layers of different materials.
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Have you considered fixing the problem, rather than patching the
symptom?



I spoke with my landlord and he says there's nothing we can do about
the pipes noise. I could never understand why the noise got so much
worse for no apparent reason.
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Have you considered fixing the problem, rather than patching the
symptom?



I spoke with my landlord and he says there's nothing we can do about
the pipes noise. I could never understand why the noise got so much
worse for no apparent reason.



If (and it's a big IF) the pipe noise is due to the need for a pressure
regulator, you MIGHT find it's cheaper to have a plumber install one,
compared to your soundproofing idea. Did you landlord have a plumber take a
look at the situation? Is there a regulator in place? They generally look
like this one:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...gulator_02.jpg


If you insist on pursuing the soundproofing idea, you may as well do it
right, with products like this:
http://www.soundisolationcompany.com...tion-Clips.php


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BS. pipes should not make noise and they are always fixable.

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Have you considered fixing the problem, rather than patching the
symptom?



I spoke with my landlord and he says there's nothing we can do about
the pipes noise. I could never understand why the noise got so much
worse for no apparent reason.





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Richard Fangnail wrote:

Have you considered fixing the problem, rather than patching the symptom?


I spoke with my landlord and he says there's nothing we can do about the pipes noise.


He's lying or confused.

I could never understand why the noise got so much worse for no apparent reason.


Because what used to slide easily doesnt anymore.


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Have you considered fixing the problem, rather than patching the
symptom?



I spoke with my landlord and he says there's nothing we can do about
the pipes noise. I could never understand why the noise got so much
worse for no apparent reason.



He said it can't be fixed but what he didn't say is "because it would cost
money to fix".

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In my apt the tapping noise can come from my ceiling or one of the
walls. When the tapping got bad a few weeks ago, it got bad in both
places at once. Why would that happen, if the problem is due to the
pipes rubbing against the holders?

Sometimes the noise is in one of the two places and sometimes it's in
both.

Someone mentioned a pressure regulator. What is that exactly, and how
might it cause the tapping problem?
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In my apt the tapping noise can come from my ceiling or one of the
walls. When the tapping got bad a few weeks ago, it got bad in both
places at once. Why would that happen, if the problem is due to the
pipes rubbing against the holders?

Sometimes the noise is in one of the two places and sometimes it's in
both.

Someone mentioned a pressure regulator. What is that exactly, and how
might it cause the tapping problem?



A regulator wouldn't cause noise. It's a thing that decreases the water
pressure coming in from the supply pipes, bringing it down to a level which
some believe is safer for appliances. I can also eliminate noisy pipes
sometimes.

The noise might be intermittent because the water pressure for the whole
system can vary depending on time of day and how many others are using water
in the building.

Ask everyone you know if they have a plumber they like. Call one of the
plumbers. Some will stop by for free to check out the situation. Be clear
with him on the phone, explaining that it's not your building, and the only
work you're allowed to do might be a regulator or some other thing that
doesn't involve ripping our walls & ceilings. And of course, be sure your
landlord will actually let you pay for the installation of a regulator
before you waste the plumber's time with a visit that will never make him
any money.

A regulator for my house costs around $60 at a plumbing supply place. I was
quoted $50 to install it. Nobody but the plumber can tell you the labor rate
for your situation, or if your building might need a regulator whose price
is different from mine.




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Richard Fangnail wrote:
In my apt the tapping noise can come from my ceiling or one of the
walls. When the tapping got bad a few weeks ago, it got bad in both
places at once. Why would that happen, if the problem is due to the
pipes rubbing against the holders?

Sometimes the noise is in one of the two places and sometimes it's in
both.


A slight tapping noise is not imo likely to be rubbing per se but more
likely thermal contraction/expansion--very similar to the occasional
pop/creak heard in a house's siding when warms up in sun on a cold day.

I had one house w/ a very long horizontal drain run from a sink -- in
it, there was a sound that could be described as a tap that was actually
a drip internally until that drain line finally finished emptying.

Someone mentioned a pressure regulator. What is that exactly, and how
might it cause the tapping problem?


It would be a pressure-reducing valve and is a spring-loaded valve that
could be installed to reduce house pressure from the higher-pressure
distribution system. Normally, if these get noisy they make a more
distinct sound than I would describe as a tap, but I suppose if it were
buried in a wall or a ceiling somewhere it could be muffled.

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Richard Fangnail wrote:

I'm trying to dull the tapping noise from the pipes in my ceiling.


Makes more sense to fix the tapping.

What materials could I use to deaden the noise?


You need something with mass and thats a problem with a ceiling.

I tried cork tiles but that had no effect whatsoever on the noise.


Because they have bugger all mass.

I've read that the idea is to use many layers of different materials.


Thats wrong. You wont get any better result with multiple
layers of paper, plastic and cloth in that particular situation.


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On Dec 31 2007, 11:56 am, Richard Fangnail
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I'm trying to dull the tapping noise from the pipes in my ceiling.
What materials could I use to deaden the noise? I tried cork tiles
but that had no effect whatsoever on the noise.

I've read that the idea is to use many layers of different materials.


This is a reach, but a water hammer can help dampen the inertia in the
system if that's what you're hearing. This would be more of a banging
sound that is made when someone turns off ("slams off") a valve. It's
a job installing however.
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