I need to strap up some loose pipes... bought a handful of pipe straps
at the local Big Box today, but here's the question - how do I secure
them? I was thinking, since I'm strapping up copper pipes with copper
straps, shouldn't I use copper nails or screws to prevent galvanic
corrosion? Is this common practice, or are regular zinc plated steel
nails and/or screws OK? I could have sworn I'd seen copper nails in the
past but couldn't find them today.

I also ask because there's obviously loose straps in my basement where
it appears that steel nails were driven directly into cinder block and
the nails have now disintegrated, would it be OK to use plastic anchors
and SS screws there, or are copper screws available/advisable? (don't
recall seeing those...)

Yes, I am apparently taking the DIY home-study course in plumbing this
winter.

nate

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On Dec 17, 10:16 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
I need to strap up some loose pipes... bought a handful of pipe straps
at the local Big Box today, but here's the question - how do I secure
them? I was thinking, since I'm strapping up copper pipes with copper
straps, shouldn't I use copper nails or screws to prevent galvanic
corrosion? Is this common practice, or are regular zinc plated steel
nails and/or screws OK? I could have sworn I'd seen copper nails in the
past but couldn't find them today.

I also ask because there's obviously loose straps in my basement where
it appears that steel nails were driven directly into cinder block and
the nails have now disintegrated, would it be OK to use plastic anchors
and SS screws there, or are copper screws available/advisable? (don't
recall seeing those...)

Yes, I am apparently taking the DIY home-study course in plumbing this
winter.

Yes, you should use copper nails with copper straps and they're
available at any real building supply yard or quality hardware
store.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the copper plumber's tape - the
strapping tape that comes in a roll and has holes all along it, or the
individual 6" or 12" straps that have screws to clamp on to the pipe,
but if it's the latter be aware that the 'copper' straps that are sold
at the big box stores are often copper plated steel and have nasty
little projections that won't keep their copper plating as the copper
expands and contracts with changes in temperature over time.

R

for practical purposes the galvanized screws will likely last longer
than you do, and straps are easy to replace.....

screws wouldnt effect pipe since they will never be in contact

on 12/17/2007 10:16 PM Nate Nagel said the following:
I need to strap up some loose pipes... bought a handful of pipe straps
at the local Big Box today, but here's the question - how do I secure
them? I was thinking, since I'm strapping up copper pipes with
copper straps, shouldn't I use copper nails or screws to prevent
galvanic corrosion? Is this common practice, or are regular zinc
plated steel nails and/or screws OK? I could have sworn I'd seen
copper nails in the past but couldn't find them today.

I bought mine from an Ace franchise hardware/lumber yard two years ago.
Have you tried the borgs?
They look like roofing nails, but solid copper.


I also ask because there's obviously loose straps in my basement where
it appears that steel nails were driven directly into cinder block and
the nails have now disintegrated, would it be OK to use plastic
anchors and SS screws there, or are copper screws
available/advisable? (don't recall seeing those...)

Yes, I am apparently taking the DIY home-study course in plumbing this
winter.

nate



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Nate Nagel wrote:

I need to strap up some loose pipes... bought a handful of pipe straps
at the local Big Box today, but here's the question - how do I secure
them? I was thinking, since I'm strapping up copper pipes with copper
straps, shouldn't I use copper nails or screws to prevent galvanic
corrosion? Is this common practice, or are regular zinc plated steel
nails and/or screws OK? I could have sworn I'd seen copper nails in the
past but couldn't find them today.

I also ask because there's obviously loose straps in my basement where
it appears that steel nails were driven directly into cinder block and
the nails have now disintegrated, would it be OK to use plastic anchors
and SS screws there, or are copper screws available/advisable? (don't
recall seeing those...)

Yes, I am apparently taking the DIY home-study course in plumbing this
winter.

nate

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If you're talking about the individual two hole straps, the last time I
bought a box of them at my plumbing supply place, they came with a bag
of copper nails to match the straps. This was a box of 100, since I
always by in larger packages and use the excess to stock my plumbing kit
for future projects.

RicodJour wrote:
On Dec 17, 10:16 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:

I need to strap up some loose pipes... bought a handful of pipe straps
at the local Big Box today, but here's the question - how do I secure
them? I was thinking, since I'm strapping up copper pipes with copper
straps, shouldn't I use copper nails or screws to prevent galvanic
corrosion? Is this common practice, or are regular zinc plated steel
nails and/or screws OK? I could have sworn I'd seen copper nails in the
past but couldn't find them today.

I also ask because there's obviously loose straps in my basement where
it appears that steel nails were driven directly into cinder block and
the nails have now disintegrated, would it be OK to use plastic anchors
and SS screws there, or are copper screws available/advisable? (don't
recall seeing those...)

Yes, I am apparently taking the DIY home-study course in plumbing this
winter.


Yes, you should use copper nails with copper straps and they're
available at any real building supply yard or quality hardware
store.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the copper plumber's tape - the
strapping tape that comes in a roll and has holes all along it, or the
individual 6" or 12" straps that have screws to clamp on to the pipe,
but if it's the latter be aware that the 'copper' straps that are sold
at the big box stores are often copper plated steel and have nasty
little projections that won't keep their copper plating as the copper
expands and contracts with changes in temperature over time.

R


I'm actually talking about the little straps that hold the pipe to a
wall etc... I did get them at the "big box" and they are pure copper -
or at least I am able to shave them with my pocketknife and they don't
stick to my magnetic socket holder.

I actually do need some of the copper tape and I seem to be unable to
find that locally - all I can get is galvanized. Is this a big deal? I
guess I might have to order from McMaster-Carr again although I do try
to buy locally when I can. I'm also in need of a 1-1/4" deep socket and
can't get that either.

nate

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Nate Nagel wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

On Dec 17, 10:16 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:

I need to strap up some loose pipes... bought a handful of pipe straps
at the local Big Box today, but here's the question - how do I secure
them? I was thinking, since I'm strapping up copper pipes with copper
straps, shouldn't I use copper nails or screws to prevent galvanic
corrosion? Is this common practice, or are regular zinc plated steel
nails and/or screws OK? I could have sworn I'd seen copper nails in the
past but couldn't find them today.

I also ask because there's obviously loose straps in my basement where
it appears that steel nails were driven directly into cinder block and
the nails have now disintegrated, would it be OK to use plastic anchors
and SS screws there, or are copper screws available/advisable? (don't
recall seeing those...)

Yes, I am apparently taking the DIY home-study course in plumbing this
winter.



Yes, you should use copper nails with copper straps and they're
available at any real building supply yard or quality hardware
store.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the copper plumber's tape - the
strapping tape that comes in a roll and has holes all along it, or the
individual 6" or 12" straps that have screws to clamp on to the pipe,
but if it's the latter be aware that the 'copper' straps that are sold
at the big box stores are often copper plated steel and have nasty
little projections that won't keep their copper plating as the copper
expands and contracts with changes in temperature over time.

R



I'm actually talking about the little straps that hold the pipe to a
wall etc... I did get them at the "big box" and they are pure copper -
or at least I am able to shave them with my pocketknife and they don't
stick to my magnetic socket holder.

I actually do need some of the copper tape and I seem to be unable to
find that locally - all I can get is galvanized. Is this a big deal? I
guess I might have to order from McMaster-Carr again although I do try
to buy locally when I can. I'm also in need of a 1-1/4" deep socket and
can't get that either.

nate


all right... I swear that I've seen copper perforated hanging tape in
the past but it does not appear to exist anymore even online... what
gives? I found a very few sources for copper clad steel and that is
about as close as I could get.

nate

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