Hey all,
I have a question about my bathroom faucet. This is a relatively new
sink/faucet and I had my contractor install it about 2 months ago. He
used some plumber's putty between the bottom of the faucet (which is a
clear rubber) and the top of the sink (which is porcelain). Now I
don't know if plumber's putty is supposed to act as an adhesive or
not, but I noticed that the faucet isn't really *attached* to the sink
at all anymore and now when you turn on the faucet it rocks back and
forth and even lifts up about an inch or so off the sink. The
faucet's pipes obviously are attached to the plumbing under the sink.
Do I just add some more plumber's putty? From what I've read that
stuff isn't really used as an adhesive.
I've been reading up on it a little bit and some people suggested
"mounting" the faucet with silicon.....but I was wondering if/how well
that would adhere the rubber faucet base to the porcelain sink. Or is
caulk the way to go?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Lisa

"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in message
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Hey all,
I have a question about my bathroom faucet. This is a relatively new
sink/faucet and I had my contractor install it about 2 months ago. He
used some plumber's putty between the bottom of the faucet (which is a
clear rubber) and the top of the sink (which is porcelain). Now I
don't know if plumber's putty is supposed to act as an adhesive or
not, but I noticed that the faucet isn't really *attached* to the sink
at all anymore and now when you turn on the faucet it rocks back and
forth and even lifts up about an inch or so off the sink. The
faucet's pipes obviously are attached to the plumbing under the sink.
Do I just add some more plumber's putty? From what I've read that
stuff isn't really used as an adhesive.
I've been reading up on it a little bit and some people suggested
"mounting" the faucet with silicon.....but I was wondering if/how well
that would adhere the rubber faucet base to the porcelain sink. Or is
caulk the way to go?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Lisa

you call them back and tell them to come back and mount the faucet the
correct way. if i were you i'd be talking to the owner of the contractor
company for his worker's incompetence. you don't glue it down with either
putty or silicone. they come with a rubber gasket to provide the seal to the
sink. there should have been a nut or 3 that screws under the faucet to the
underneath of the sink to mount the faucet correctly.

On Sep 10, 1:50 pm, "charlie"
wrote:
"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in oglegroups.com...





Hey all,
I have a question about my bathroom faucet. This is a relatively new
sink/faucet and I had my contractor install it about 2 months ago. He
used some plumber's putty between the bottom of the faucet (which is a
clear rubber) and the top of the sink (which is porcelain). Now I
don't know if plumber's putty is supposed to act as an adhesive or
not, but I noticed that the faucet isn't really *attached* to the sink
at all anymore and now when you turn on the faucet it rocks back and
forth and even lifts up about an inch or so off the sink. The
faucet's pipes obviously are attached to the plumbing under the sink.
Do I just add some more plumber's putty? From what I've read that
stuff isn't really used as an adhesive.
I've been reading up on it a little bit and some people suggested
"mounting" the faucet with silicon.....but I was wondering if/how well
that would adhere the rubber faucet base to the porcelain sink. Or is
caulk the way to go?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Lisa

you call them back and tell them to come back and mount the faucet the
correct way. if i were you i'd be talking to the owner of the contractor
company for his worker's incompetence. you don't glue it down with either
putty or silicone. they come with a rubber gasket to provide the seal to the
sink. there should have been a nut or 3 that screws under the faucet to the
underneath of the sink to mount the faucet correctly.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi Charlie,
Thanks for your quick reply. There is in fact a rubber gasket (that's
the clear rubber part I mentined) that contacts the sink. Getting my
contractor to come back really isn't an option (there were a few
things that he left undone that I ended up having to do myself) so I
wanted to fix this myself.
As far as nuts that secure the faucet to the underside of the sink, I
wasn' t left with any spare parts so I guess they didn't exist or he
disposed of them without attaching him.
I didn't notice this thing moving until the plumber's putty wore
off.
Is there anything I can glue the rubber gasket to the sink with?
Lisa

"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 10, 1:50 pm, "charlie"
wrote:
"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in
oglegroups.com...





Hey all,
I have a question about my bathroom faucet. This is a relatively new
sink/faucet and I had my contractor install it about 2 months ago. He
used some plumber's putty between the bottom of the faucet (which is a
clear rubber) and the top of the sink (which is porcelain). Now I
don't know if plumber's putty is supposed to act as an adhesive or
not, but I noticed that the faucet isn't really *attached* to the sink
at all anymore and now when you turn on the faucet it rocks back and
forth and even lifts up about an inch or so off the sink. The
faucet's pipes obviously are attached to the plumbing under the sink.
Do I just add some more plumber's putty? From what I've read that
stuff isn't really used as an adhesive.
I've been reading up on it a little bit and some people suggested
"mounting" the faucet with silicon.....but I was wondering if/how well
that would adhere the rubber faucet base to the porcelain sink. Or is
caulk the way to go?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Lisa

you call them back and tell them to come back and mount the faucet the
correct way. if i were you i'd be talking to the owner of the contractor
company for his worker's incompetence. you don't glue it down with either
putty or silicone. they come with a rubber gasket to provide the seal to
the
sink. there should have been a nut or 3 that screws under the faucet to
the
underneath of the sink to mount the faucet correctly.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi Charlie,
Thanks for your quick reply. There is in fact a rubber gasket (that's
the clear rubber part I mentined) that contacts the sink. Getting my
contractor to come back really isn't an option (there were a few
things that he left undone that I ended up having to do myself) so I
wanted to fix this myself.
As far as nuts that secure the faucet to the underside of the sink, I
wasn' t left with any spare parts so I guess they didn't exist or he
disposed of them without attaching him.
I didn't notice this thing moving until the plumber's putty wore
off.
Is there anything I can glue the rubber gasket to the sink with?
Lisa


The simple answer to your quest is "No". The faucet has to be fasten on the
bottom using a nut that screws on the threads of the part of the faucet that
extends below the sink top. Perhaps the nut is on, but not tightened. It's
possible that it was hand tightened only (it should be wrench tightened) and
just got loose which allowed the faucet to move (it probably wasn't the
plumbers' putty that was holding it). Check with you hand to see if its
there and if you can hand tighten it. Then go out and get a basic wrench
(under $5) make it more permanent. Just a little bit beyond hand tightening
should do it.

PS: Other will instruct you how you should deal with your delinquent
contractor.
--
Peace,
BobJ

Marilyn & Bob wrote:



The simple answer to your quest is "No". The faucet has to be fasten on the
bottom using a nut that screws on the threads of the part of the faucet that
extends below the sink top. Perhaps the nut is on, but not tightened. It's
possible that it was hand tightened only (it should be wrench tightened) and
just got loose which allowed the faucet to move (it probably wasn't the
plumbers' putty that was holding it). Check with you hand to see if its
there and if you can hand tighten it. Then go out and get a basic wrench
That is "basin", not "basic" wrench. This funny wrench that can reach into
difficult places like this just for tightening this nut. Usually sold in
the plumbing dept. of stores.
(under $5) make it more permanent. Just a little bit beyond hand tightening
should do it.

Overall, M & B is/are correct. The faucet is held on by a nut (maybe with
washers), not with any sort of glue.

"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in message
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On Sep 10, 1:50 pm, "charlie"
wrote:
"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in
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Hey all,
I have a question about my bathroom faucet. This is a relatively new
sink/faucet and I had my contractor install it about 2 months ago. He
used some plumber's putty between the bottom of the faucet (which is a
clear rubber) and the top of the sink (which is porcelain). Now I
don't know if plumber's putty is supposed to act as an adhesive or
not, but I noticed that the faucet isn't really *attached* to the sink
at all anymore and now when you turn on the faucet it rocks back and
forth and even lifts up about an inch or so off the sink. The
faucet's pipes obviously are attached to the plumbing under the sink.
Do I just add some more plumber's putty? From what I've read that
stuff isn't really used as an adhesive.
I've been reading up on it a little bit and some people suggested
"mounting" the faucet with silicon.....but I was wondering if/how well
that would adhere the rubber faucet base to the porcelain sink. Or is
caulk the way to go?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Lisa

you call them back and tell them to come back and mount the faucet the
correct way. if i were you i'd be talking to the owner of the contractor
company for his worker's incompetence. you don't glue it down with either
putty or silicone. they come with a rubber gasket to provide the seal to
the
sink. there should have been a nut or 3 that screws under the faucet to
the
underneath of the sink to mount the faucet correctly.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi Charlie,
Thanks for your quick reply. There is in fact a rubber gasket (that's
the clear rubber part I mentined) that contacts the sink. Getting my
contractor to come back really isn't an option (there were a few
things that he left undone that I ended up having to do myself) so I
wanted to fix this myself.
As far as nuts that secure the faucet to the underside of the sink, I
wasn' t left with any spare parts so I guess they didn't exist or he
disposed of them without attaching him.
I didn't notice this thing moving until the plumber's putty wore
off.
Is there anything I can glue the rubber gasket to the sink with?
Lisa

no. you don't use glue. you use the nuts on the bottom. you'll need a basin
wrench to tighten them (home depot plumbing dept). if there aren't any there
to tighten, you can call the maker of the faucet and they'll probably mail
you some for free if you explain what was done.

On Sep 11, 11:26 am, "charlie"
wrote:
"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in ooglegroups.com...





On Sep 10, 1:50 pm, "charlie"
wrote:
"Lisa Ashley Rafter" wrote in
oglegroups.com...

Hey all,
I have a question about my bathroom faucet. This is a relatively new
sink/faucet and I had my contractor install it about 2 months ago. He
used some plumber's putty between the bottom of the faucet (which is a
clear rubber) and the top of the sink (which is porcelain). Now I
don't know if plumber's putty is supposed to act as an adhesive or
not, but I noticed that the faucet isn't really *attached* to the sink
at all anymore and now when you turn on the faucet it rocks back and
forth and even lifts up about an inch or so off the sink. The
faucet's pipes obviously are attached to the plumbing under the sink.
Do I just add some more plumber's putty? From what I've read that
stuff isn't really used as an adhesive.
I've been reading up on it a little bit and some people suggested
"mounting" the faucet with silicon.....but I was wondering if/how well
that would adhere the rubber faucet base to the porcelain sink. Or is
caulk the way to go?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Lisa

you call them back and tell them to come back and mount the faucet the
correct way. if i were you i'd be talking to the owner of the contractor
company for his worker's incompetence. you don't glue it down with either
putty or silicone. they come with a rubber gasket to provide the seal to
the
sink. there should have been a nut or 3 that screws under the faucet to
the
underneath of the sink to mount the faucet correctly.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi Charlie,
Thanks for your quick reply. There is in fact a rubber gasket (that's
the clear rubber part I mentined) that contacts the sink. Getting my
contractor to come back really isn't an option (there were a few
things that he left undone that I ended up having to do myself) so I
wanted to fix this myself.
As far as nuts that secure the faucet to the underside of the sink, I
wasn' t left with any spare parts so I guess they didn't exist or he
disposed of them without attaching him.
I didn't notice this thing moving until the plumber's putty wore
off.
Is there anything I can glue the rubber gasket to the sink with?
Lisa

no. you don't use glue. you use the nuts on the bottom. you'll need a basin
wrench to tighten them (home depot plumbing dept). if there aren't any there
to tighten, you can call the maker of the faucet and they'll probably mail
you some for free if you explain what was done.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't use putty,silcon,glue the nuts are all you need the days of
seals here are over unless the sink top is deformed and won't seall
properly

Check out this Replacing a Bathroom Faucet Step-by-step at This Old
House Online:

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/how-...615503,00.html

Even if you bring on a contractor, it's still good to know from a
reputable source what is expected to be done in a repair like this.
You can also take a look at the tools ans shopping lists to see what
your contractor should be using.

Hope this helps,
Tabitha

replying to tabitha.sukhai, Iggy wrote:
I know I'm quite late here, but from my personal experience...start over. If
the drain's a Pop-up with a pull-rod up top and a pivot-rod under the sink,
then the drain flange in the sink screws down (typically) into the tailpiece
beneath and is a separate piece. Stainless Steel Pop-up drain flanges are hard
to come by (tailpieces impossible), but by any means get one and never have to
play with the drain flange again.

In any case though, get rid of any Rubber Washer (under the flange "in" the
sink) and Plumber's Putty. Only use 100% silicone (not silicon, that's hard
brittle computer wafer stuff) to yes glue-down the drain flange. Both Rubber
Washers and Plumber's Putty dry-out, crack and leak in as little as 10-years,
Silicone doesn't. Silicone dries-out, but doesn't lose its seal, grip nor turn
back to a powder. Again, anything you can get in stainless steel is well worth
it, even if you need to basically make your own drain. I buy separate
stainless steel flanges, locking nuts and pivot-rods...suppliers always change
whenever I run out.

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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:14:06 PM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
replying to tabitha.sukhai, Iggy wrote:
I know I'm quite late here, but from my personal experience...start over. If
the drain's a Pop-up with a pull-rod up top and a pivot-rod under the sink,
then the drain flange in the sink screws down (typically) into the tailpiece
beneath and is a separate piece. Stainless Steel Pop-up drain flanges are hard
to come by (tailpieces impossible), but by any means get one and never have to
play with the drain flange again.

In any case though, get rid of any Rubber Washer (under the flange "in" the
sink) and Plumber's Putty. Only use 100% silicone (not silicon, that's hard
brittle computer wafer stuff) to yes glue-down the drain flange. Both Rubber
Washers and Plumber's Putty dry-out, crack and leak in as little as 10-years,
Silicone doesn't. Silicone dries-out, but doesn't lose its seal, grip nor turn
back to a powder. Again, anything you can get in stainless steel is well worth
it, even if you need to basically make your own drain. I buy separate
stainless steel flanges, locking nuts and pivot-rods...suppliers always change
whenever I run out.
--


You're too late. 10 years ago Tabitha was abducted by giant alien gerbils from outerspace. The Air Force tried to intercept the flying saucer but it was just too fast for them. Tabitha was never returned by her furry alien kidnappers. It was a real tragedy for her family. (~_~

[8~{} Uncle Sad Monster

On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 11:14:06 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
replying to tabitha.sukhai, Iggy wrote:
I know I'm quite late here,

Only about 10 years. She's ready for a new faucet by now.



but from my personal experience...start over. If
the drain's a Pop-up with a pull-rod up top and a pivot-rod under the sink,

If you read the post, she's asking about the faucet mounted to the sink,
not about the drain. And there should be no putty, nothing under it but
the rubber type gasket that she describes. It's probably moving because
it has putty put in there and it;s not tightened down enough.



then the drain flange in the sink screws down (typically) into the tailpiece
beneath and is a separate piece. Stainless Steel Pop-up drain flanges are hard
to come by (tailpieces impossible), but by any means get one and never have to
play with the drain flange again.

In any case though, get rid of any Rubber Washer (under the flange "in" the
sink) and Plumber's Putty. Only use 100% silicone (not silicon, that's hard
brittle computer wafer stuff) to yes glue-down the drain flange.

Another mistake. Plumber's putty is exactly what you want there. It's
thick, pliable and fills the gap, giving the drain piece something to
bed down into. It also comes out easily as opposed to silicone.
BTW, you see silicon in caulking tubes instead of silicone much?



Both Rubber
Washers and Plumber's Putty dry-out, crack and leak in as little as 10-years,

You see ones with washers much? I have drains that are 30 years old,
still perfect, no leaks, with plumber's putty.



Silicone doesn't. Silicone dries-out,

Wrong again. It doesn't dry out, it cures.


but doesn't lose its seal, grip nor turn
back to a powder. Again, anything you can get in stainless steel is well worth
it, even if you need to basically make your own drain.

Wow, you do that much?



I buy separate
stainless steel flanges, locking nuts and pivot-rods...suppliers always change
whenever I run out.

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Nice job giving the wrong answer to a question she didn't ask from
10 years ago.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:00:07 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Another mistake. Plumber's putty is exactly what you want there. It's
thick, pliable and fills the gap, giving the drain piece something to
bed down into. It also comes out easily as opposed to silicone.
BTW, you see silicon in caulking tubes instead of silicone much?

One lesson I learned the hard way, plumber's putty should never be
used when it will be in contact with plastic. For example, plastic
drain tail piece are becoming quite common and, the traditional putty
will interact with and degrade that material.

replying to trader_4, Iggy wrote:
Ready for a new faucet in a nothing 10-years? Disposable Society Idiots that
accepts crap at every turn as "Value", I guess...like Plumber's Putty
(guaranteed future hack-work).

Actually, she's directing and instructing about faucet installation, by a
monkey-see-monkey-do "Master" Plumber that frequently does some quite
laughable plumbing.

Plumber's Putty is what everyone wants? Sure, if you like replacing rotted out
drains, scrubbing off mold and mildew or just enjoy replacing the easily
avoidable water damaged cabinet...YAY, Plumber's Putty! (how many decades does
it take to stop banging your head against the wall?)

I do see rubber washers quite often. Absolutely, I've seen plenty of Putty
Jobs that are even 50-years old, no drips but definitely leaking past the
"cured" cracked, loose and powdery Putty and rotting out the drain. Just
waiting for the underside rubber washer to finally let loose. I did my drains
with Silicone 30-years ago and dropped the locknut and washer to find
nothing's loose, stained, rusted or changed from day one. You, can't do that
and don't have that.

Yep, I do quite a bit of the hack-work replacements and provide a My Lifetime
As A Handyman Warranty for my replacements. No-one's made a claim yet and I've
been called back for more projects as much as 20-years later to still find no
complaint nor change from when it went it. My stainless Drain Flanges, Basket
Strainers, Pivot Rods and Locknuts still all look and act brand new.

Jack of many trades and True Master of most of them. You don't want to know
about my drain assemblies, but my clients love, carry on and swear by
them...where I get most of my referrals actually.

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On 7/30/2017 2:44 PM, Iggy wrote:

Jack of many trades and True Master of most of them. You don't want to know
about my drain assemblies, but my clients love, carry on and swear by
them...where I get most of my referrals actually.


Actually, we do want to know. IMO, any drain that does not clog and
does not leak is a good one. Is there more?

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 2:44:08 PM UTC-4, Iggy wrote:
replying to trader_4, Iggy wrote:
Ready for a new faucet in a nothing 10-years? Disposable Society Idiots that
accepts crap at every turn as "Value", I guess...like Plumber's Putty
(guaranteed future hack-work).

Actually, she's directing and instructing about faucet installation, by a
monkey-see-monkey-do "Master" Plumber that frequently does some quite
laughable plumbing.

Plumber's Putty is what everyone wants? Sure, if you like replacing rotted out
drains, scrubbing off mold and mildew or just enjoy replacing the easily
avoidable water damaged cabinet...YAY, Plumber's Putty! (how many decades does
it take to stop banging your head against the wall?)

I do see rubber washers quite often. Absolutely, I've seen plenty of Putty
Jobs that are even 50-years old, no drips but definitely leaking past the
"cured" cracked, loose and powdery Putty and rotting out the drain. Just
waiting for the underside rubber washer to finally let loose.

Totally irrelevant, if that's going to leak, it's going to leak and
has nothing to do with using plumber's putty.

I did my drains
with Silicone 30-years ago and dropped the locknut and washer to find
nothing's loose, stained, rusted or changed from day one. You, can't do that
and don't have that.

Yep, I do quite a bit of the hack-work replacements and provide a My Lifetime
As A Handyman Warranty for my replacements. No-one's made a claim yet and I've
been called back for more projects as much as 20-years later to still find no
complaint nor change from when it went it. My stainless Drain Flanges, Basket
Strainers, Pivot Rods and Locknuts still all look and act brand new.

Jack of many trades and True Master of most of them. You don't want to know
about my drain assemblies, but my clients love, carry on and swear by
them...where I get most of my referrals actually.

--
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Well, you must use crappy plumber's putty. I've used it lots of
drains over decades, never had a problem, never had a leak, with
any of them. And it has the right consistency to bed down for
a drain and it's not as messy as silicone. But then, the question
asked was about mounting a faucet, which has nothing to do with drains
or plumber's putty.