I have a indoor heating question for you guys.

I have a 2 story house that gets hot in the upper floor and stays
pretty cool on the ground floor. I have air conditioning which I only
use on really hot days. By the way I installed eyebrow vents that
don't seem to be doing a whole lot. I also have a high ceil living
room and it takes the AC quite a while to really cool the house.

Anyway, I know the theory is to keep all the windows closed when using
the AC, but.........
I have hot air trapped on the second floor. Wouldn't it make sense to
open the upper windows to push the hot air out while the cool AC air
is pumped in? Is this true or am I way off base?

You have two forms of convection in your house, forced
and static. Static convection is caused by cold dense air
flowing down and lighter warm Air being forced up, this is
known as the STACK effect and means the upper floors
will always be warmer. Forced convection is created by
the supply and return air flow of the A/C unit.
Air conditioning units not only cool the Air but also remove
moisture and this Latent load can use up to 33% of the unit
capacity. So its not just the temperature of the outside air
which has to be considered but also it's relative humidity.
The Duct layout has to be considered but extract fans in the
bathroom or toilet with the windows closed would probably
improve the second floor temperature.

"Senin" wrote in message
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I have a indoor heating question for you guys.

I have a 2 story house that gets hot in the upper floor and stays
pretty cool on the ground floor. I have air conditioning which I only
use on really hot days. By the way I installed eyebrow vents that
don't seem to be doing a whole lot. I also have a high ceil living
room and it takes the AC quite a while to really cool the house.

Anyway, I know the theory is to keep all the windows closed when using
the AC, but.........
I have hot air trapped on the second floor. Wouldn't it make sense to
open the upper windows to push the hot air out while the cool AC air
is pumped in? Is this true or am I way off base?

"Telstra" wrote in message
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You have two forms of convection in your house, forced
and static. Static convection is caused by cold dense air
flowing down and lighter warm Air being forced up, this is
known as the STACK effect and means the upper floors
will always be warmer. Forced convection is created by
the supply and return air flow of the A/C unit.
Air conditioning units not only cool the Air but also remove
moisture and this Latent load can use up to 33% of the unit
capacity. So its not just the temperature of the outside air
which has to be considered but also it's relative humidity.
The Duct layout has to be considered but extract fans in the
bathroom or toilet with the windows closed would probably
improve the second floor temperature.

"Senin" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have a indoor heating question for you guys.

I have a 2 story house that gets hot in the upper floor and stays
pretty cool on the ground floor. I have air conditioning which I only
use on really hot days. By the way I installed eyebrow vents that
don't seem to be doing a whole lot. I also have a high ceil living
room and it takes the AC quite a while to really cool the house.

Anyway, I know the theory is to keep all the windows closed when using
the AC, but.........
I have hot air trapped on the second floor. Wouldn't it make sense to
open the upper windows to push the hot air out while the cool AC air
is pumped in? Is this true or am I way off base?


Put a ceiling fan in the living room- that will help a bunch. Like the other
guy said, balancing upper and lower floor can be a PITA. I'd get a good HVAC
company in for a site survey of the ductwork and system capacity. You made
need a zoned system. Not sure what you mean by 'eyebrow vents'- something in
the attic? Attic venting and insulation is crucial on the upper floor,
otherwise attic gets superheated on sunny days, and radiates back down into
the living space, until well after dark. Adding another six inches in this
place made a noticable difference in comfort, and on the power bill.

aem sends...

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:57:22 -0000, Senin wrote:

I have a indoor heating question for you guys.

I have a 2 story house that gets hot in the upper floor and stays
pretty cool on the ground floor. I have air conditioning which I only
use on really hot days. By the way I installed eyebrow vents that
don't seem to be doing a whole lot. I also have a high ceil living
room and it takes the AC quite a while to really cool the house.

Anyway, I know the theory is to keep all the windows closed when using
the AC, but.........
I have hot air trapped on the second floor. Wouldn't it make sense to
open the upper windows to push the hot air out while the cool AC air
is pumped in? Is this true or am I way off base?

Way off base.

"Senin" wrote in message

Anyway, I know the theory is to keep all the windows closed when using
the AC, but.........
I have hot air trapped on the second floor. Wouldn't it make sense to
open the upper windows to push the hot air out while the cool AC air
is pumped in? Is this true or am I way off base?


By opening the window, you will vent some of the hot air, but you will also
replace it with hotter moister air that will get mixed in and make matters
worse.

Sounds like your system needs to be balanced. Be sure you have proper
return vents, partially close some of the outlets on the first floor to
force more of the cooker air to the second floor.

Be sure you have clean filters and are getting proper air through the system
to start with.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

On Sep 3, 7:10 am, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"Senin" wrote in message

Anyway, I know the theory is to keep all the windows closed when using
the AC, but.........
I have hot air trapped on the second floor. Wouldn't it make sense to
open the upper windows to push the hot air out while the cool AC air
is pumped in? Is this true or am I way off base?

By opening the window, you will vent some of the hot air, but you will also
replace it with hotter moister air that will get mixed in and make matters
worse.

Sounds like your system needs to be balanced. Be sure you have proper
return vents, partially close some of the outlets on the first floor to
force more of the cooker air to the second floor.

Be sure you have clean filters and are getting proper air through the system
to start with.
--
Edhttp://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

Thanks for the replies.

So if I understand correctly, if the air is hotter outside than
inside, keep the windows closed, venting it out with the AC will not
work. It almost sounds as if a fan is more effective than the AC.

"Senin" wrote in message

So if I understand correctly, if the air is hotter outside than
inside, keep the windows closed, venting it out with the AC will not
work. It almost sounds as if a fan is more effective than the AC.


Fans do not cool at all, they just move air around and you may feel a little
cooler in the breeze. Fans do not remove humidity.

Get the AC working right and you'll be happy with it.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/