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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC


Maybe they will put it in the garage, but I don't think you can. Call
them and ask.

Also ask if doing so or removing it will damage the floor. I'm not
saying it will except that I see scratch marks sometimes where they
have dragged a dumpster onto the back of the truck, as they often do
when removing it. For that matter, if I had a nice driveway, or maybe
any paved driveway, I would ask about whether it damages that. I'm
sure they make one sign a contract which waives all claims for
damages. What I don't know is if and how often damage is caused, and
if it just goes away in a few weeks, if the weather makes a scratched
surface match the rest of the surface.

Most of this is speculation. I"ve never rented a dumpster. I almost
had to rent one to get a new roof, but by the time I hired the same
guy, he had bought a small dump truck and put all of my old roof in
the truck. Even then, I only have a townhouse with a parking lot and
I've already ruined, until they pave again, the spot where I park with
leaking oil.


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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:22 -0700, wrote:

Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of

sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it

into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC


Maybe they will put it in the garage, but I don't think you can.

Call
them and ask.

Also ask if doing so or removing it will damage the floor. I'm not
saying it will except that I see scratch marks sometimes where they
have dragged a dumpster onto the back of the truck, as they often do
when removing it. For that matter, if I had a nice driveway, or

maybe
any paved driveway, I would ask about whether it damages that. I'm
sure they make one sign a contract which waives all claims for
damages. What I don't know is if and how often damage is caused, and
if it just goes away in a few weeks, if the weather makes a scratched
surface match the rest of the surface.

Most of this is speculation. I"ve never rented a dumpster. I almost
had to rent one to get a new roof, but by the time I hired the same
guy, he had bought a small dump truck and put all of my old roof in
the truck. Even then, I only have a townhouse with a parking lot and
I've already ruined, until they pave again, the spot where I park

with
leaking oil.



I did rent a dumpster not too long ago, they put it as far to the side
of the driveway as they could get, but they did make me sign a
release, and I had to be there when it was delivered since it was
going in the driveway, otherwise they would have put it in the street.
I imagine the release was for damage that could be caused to the
driveway as you say, but I don't see how they could get it into the
garage.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:22 -0700, wrote:

Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC


Over the course of a twenty year renovation, I had many dumpsters. I had them
dropped in the side yard, the back yard, and in the alley behind the property.

Setting a dumpster in an enclosed area would be very problematic, given the way
they come off of the back of the truck. Retrieving them from an enclosed
location would also be interesting, although I have seen them dragged (loaded)
by the truck. I even had a situation where they had to send out two trucks to
drag one that had sunk in the yard.

As for the nuts and bolts:
A ten yard can is relatively small and could possibly live in your garage.
A twenty yard can is long with relatively shallow sides. It could possibly be
tilted off and pushed into the garage.
Once you get to thirty yards. the garage thing is not going to happen.
Forty yards...nah...drop it and hope for the best.

Remember, these things are slid off the back of the truck. Although they have
wheels (like small rollers) they dig and gauge as they come down. When they
pull them (loaded) up onto the truck, they like to leave ruts.

The property where I "subscribed" to dumpster service did not have any paved
areas. There was a gravel parking area where I had one dropped off after
Hurricane Floyd, and the alley in the rear was also a gravel surface. Those
areas and the various places in the yard where I had these things parked always
needed to be raked out when the thing was gone. But that was better than
replacing or patching up a residential driveway.

Best advice (as mentioned before) tarp it and lock up the tailgate.

Good luck...Dumpsters are an experience. :-)

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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

When the roofing company ordered the one for my tearoff, they laid 4 sheets
of 3/4 exterior OSB at the landing spot. It was there ten days or so, and
the waste company picked it up with no damage. My driveway is thin asphalt
in crappy condition anyway, but I didn't see a mark. I think it was a 10
yard.

If you have a pretty driveway, 80 bucks or so for plywood seems like cheap
insurance. Doesn't need to be pretty, just thick and dense. See if the
lumberyard will sell you the protecter layers the bundles of pretty wood
come wrapped in.

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Most of this is speculation. I"ve never rented a dumpster. I almost
had to rent one to get a new roof, but by the time I hired the same
guy, he had bought a small dump truck and put all of my old roof in
the truck. Even then, I only have a townhouse with a parking lot and
I've already ruined, until they pave again, the spot where I park

with
leaking oil.



I did rent a dumpster not too long ago, they put it as far to the side
of the driveway as they could get, but they did make me sign a
release, and I had to be there when it was delivered since it was
going in the driveway, otherwise they would have put it in the street.
I imagine the release was for damage that could be caused to the
driveway as you say,


Did you read it?

And did they leave any scrape marks?

I think some dumpsters have steel wheels at the rear end.

but I don't see how they could get it into the
garage.


It depends I guess on the dumpster and the garage, and the garage
door, but if the door is wide enough, can't they just back into the
garage, and dump it as they drive out. Someone else also expressed
doubts, but I don't know why that would be hard.



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BTW, I'm not recommending he put it in his garage, just answering his
question.

And of course only dumpsters that will fit in the garage can be put in
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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

When the roofing company ordered the one for my tearoff, they laid 4
sheets of 3/4 exterior OSB at the landing spot. It was there ten days or
so, and the waste company picked it up with no damage. My driveway is thin
asphalt in crappy condition anyway, but I didn't see a mark. I think it
was a 10 yard.

If you have a pretty driveway, 80 bucks or so for plywood seems like cheap
insurance. Doesn't need to be pretty, just thick and dense. See if the
lumberyard will sell you the protecter layers the bundles of pretty wood
come wrapped in.

aem sends...


plywood sheets sounds like a good idea. I will definitely look into it.

Thanks,

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:22 -0700, wrote:

Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC


Over the course of a twenty year renovation, I had many dumpsters. I had
them
dropped in the side yard, the back yard, and in the alley behind the
property.

Setting a dumpster in an enclosed area would be very problematic, given
the way
they come off of the back of the truck. Retrieving them from an enclosed
location would also be interesting, although I have seen them dragged
(loaded)
by the truck. I even had a situation where they had to send out two trucks
to
drag one that had sunk in the yard.

As for the nuts and bolts:
A ten yard can is relatively small and could possibly live in your garage.
A twenty yard can is long with relatively shallow sides. It could possibly
be
tilted off and pushed into the garage.
Once you get to thirty yards. the garage thing is not going to happen.
Forty yards...nah...drop it and hope for the best.

Remember, these things are slid off the back of the truck. Although they
have
wheels (like small rollers) they dig and gauge as they come down. When
they
pull them (loaded) up onto the truck, they like to leave ruts.

The property where I "subscribed" to dumpster service did not have any
paved
areas. There was a gravel parking area where I had one dropped off after
Hurricane Floyd, and the alley in the rear was also a gravel surface.
Those
areas and the various places in the yard where I had these things parked
always
needed to be raked out when the thing was gone. But that was better than
replacing or patching up a residential driveway.

Best advice (as mentioned before) tarp it and lock up the tailgate.

Good luck...Dumpsters are an experience. :-)

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New Eagle, PA



Thanks.

My garage is 24' x 22' with two doors, each door 9' wide by 8' tall.

I was thinking of renting a 12' L x 8' W x 5' H so it should easily fit in
there. I am not sure how to get it in there. These sizes do not have
covers.

My other concerns is with stuff I plan to dump in it, sheet rock,
insulation, appliances and other debris, with daily pouring rain in Miami,
it will be very wet. I remember someone else rented one on the next blocks
and they had kids passing by dumping other stuff in it including beer
bottles, half eaten sandwiches, someone threw lawn chairs, plants etc...so
with the rain, you end up with bugs, rodents etc...a mess. That's why I am
thinking the garage is the better way to go.

I wonder if I line the floor with plywood sheets as aemeujers suggested, and
ask them to unload onto the driveway can I slide it in? I think so...I am
worried once it's filled up can I slide them out with the added weight.

MC




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The truck that brings the dumpster will probably crack most
existing driveways. I expect they will make you sign a disclaimer
for any damage caused by any position you choose other than the
public street. You really need to go watch them pick up a full 40
yard container. Go after a heavy rain to see the ruts from the
truck, the container, and watch everyone pray that the truck can
load the dumpster. :You ain't lived till you have to take
material back off that dumpster either for being overloaded or
over filled (they need to be able to tarp the top and will allow
nothing above the side s).

You've not ever said what you are calling a dumpster. I think
most of us are thinking 20 / 30 / 40 cubic yard. 40's have really
tall side walls (about 8'), great for skid steers or roof
tearoffs. a bit tougher to load from the ground.

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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put
it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?

I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of
sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping
their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move
it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.

When the roofing company ordered the one for my tearoff, they
laid 4 sheets of 3/4 exterior OSB at the landing spot. It was
there ten days or so, and the waste company picked it up with
no damage. My driveway is thin asphalt in crappy condition
anyway, but I didn't see a mark. I think it was a 10 yard.

If you have a pretty driveway, 80 bucks or so for plywood seems
like cheap insurance. Doesn't need to be pretty, just thick and
dense. See if the lumberyard will sell you the protecter layers
the bundles of pretty wood come wrapped in.

aem sends...


plywood sheets sounds like a good idea. I will definitely look
into it.

Thanks,

MC



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Did you read it?

And did they leave any scrape marks?

I think some dumpsters have steel wheels at the rear end.


It depends I guess on the dumpster and the garage, and the garage
door, but if the door is wide enough, can't they just back into the
garage, and dump it as they drive out. Someone else also expressed
doubts, but I don't know why that would be hard.



No, I didn't read it, and no, it didn't leave any marks at all. This
one didn't have wheels though, and keeping in mind that it wasn't one
of those big construction type dumpsters, it was midsize really. They
lifted it with forklift type things that are built into the trucks. It
was delivered by a garbage truck which is pretty high, so they might
be able to get it close to the garage door, but I don't see how they
could actually get it in the garage. Dunno know for sure though.

Cheri


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My garage is 24' x 22' with two doors, each door 9' wide by 8' tall.

I was thinking of renting a 12' L x 8' W x 5' H so it should easily fit in
there. I am not sure how to get it in there. These sizes do not have
covers.

My other concerns is with stuff I plan to dump in it, sheet rock,
insulation, appliances and other debris, with daily pouring rain in Miami,
it will be very wet. I remember someone else rented one on the next
blocks and they had kids passing by dumping other stuff in it including
beer bottles, half eaten sandwiches, someone threw lawn chairs, plants
etc...so with the rain, you end up with bugs, rodents etc...a mess.
That's why I am thinking the garage is the better way to go.

I wonder if I line the floor with plywood sheets as aemeujers suggested,
and ask them to unload onto the driveway can I slide it in? I think
so...I am worried once it's filled up can I slide them out with the added
weight.

No Way In Hell will you be able to bodily push or pull a rolloff into the
garage flat on the ground- even empty, the thing is heavy. A rolloff isn't
sheet metal, it is welded plate, akin to a giant dump truck bed. The wheels
on one end only work when the other end is picked up. Anything heavy enough
to brute-force it will crack the driveway all by itself. Highly doubt they
will be able to spot it through a 9' opening- that truck is TALL when in
drop/recover mode, and the dumpster itself is at about a 40 degree angle
when the wheels hit the ground.

The waste company is used to questions like this- give them a call. You
might be better off with a smaller dumpster, with a flip lid, picked up more
often. Unless you have real long trash, or will generate a whole lot real
fast, an apartment-style front-pickup may work as well as a rolloff for you.
Explain the situation, and they will tell you what solutions they can offer.
Lockable, lidded dumpsters to prevent midnight dumping, rodents, and rain
weight, are pretty common.

If you need a rolloff, and they don't offer a lidded one, see if they will
provide a tarp with it. Usually the hauler truck has one of those motorized
automatic covers, but they may have some old-style tarps on hand. Or just
buy a couple of the cheap blue tarps and some bungee cords. The outside of
the rolloff should have plenty of places to hook them. The cheap tarps
should work okay with the rolloff sitting still, unless you get a hurricane.

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On Jul 26, 8:39 pm, "DanG" wrote:
The truck that brings the dumpster will probably crack most
existing driveways. I expect they will make you sign a disclaimer
for any damage caused by any position you choose other than the
public street. You really need to go watch them pick up a full 40
yard container. Go after a heavy rain to see the ruts from the
truck, the container, and watch everyone pray that the truck can
load the dumpster. :You ain't lived till you have to take
material back off that dumpster either for being overloaded or
over filled (they need to be able to tarp the top and will allow
nothing above the side s).

You've not ever said what you are calling a dumpster. I think
most of us are thinking 20 / 30 / 40 cubic yard. 40's have really
tall side walls (about 8'), great for skid steers or roof
tearoffs. a bit tougher to load from the ground.

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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put
it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?


I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of
sight,
out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping
their
garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move
it into
the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.


When the roofing company ordered the one for my tearoff, they
laid 4 sheets of 3/4 exterior OSB at the landing spot. It was
there ten days or so, and the waste company picked it up with
no damage. My driveway is thin asphalt in crappy condition
anyway, but I didn't see a mark. I think it was a 10 yard.


If you have a pretty driveway, 80 bucks or so for plywood seems
like cheap insurance. Doesn't need to be pretty, just thick and
dense. See if the lumberyard will sell you the protecter layers
the bundles of pretty wood come wrapped in.


aem sends...


plywood sheets sounds like a good idea. I will definitely look
into it.


Thanks,


MC


Can't agree with you that "The truck that delivers the dumpsters will
crack most driveways". I have had 3-4 dumpsters dropped in my
driveway over the years, and they didn't even have a waiver for me to
sign. Of course, I have had a concrete truck in my driveway already,
so a "roll off" truck is pretty light by comparison. (Not an asphalt
driveway)

Working off the OP's measurements, I get 17 yards +/- but I suspect
that the sides are sloped at the bottom and that this is really closer
to a 12 yarder, which would be a standard size. (At least in my area)
We have pushed dumpsters around with a skid steer pretty easily, but
they were empty. Richard Davis and crew managed to lose control of a
dumpster they were trying to move around, and it rolled down a hill
and took out his brother's car.

To the point, I think you are going to have a hard time getting a
dumpster company to put a box this size into your garage. They drop
them at a pretty good angle, and I doubt they would clear the door.

The things that the neighborhood "contributes" to your dumpster are
known as "dumpster tax". It's the price you pay for having a dumpster
in your driveway. Be happy if it is just sandwiches and not couches
or car batteries.

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My garage is 24' x 22' with two doors, each door 9' wide by 8' tall.

I was thinking of renting a 12' L x 8' W x 5' H so it should easily fit in
there. I am not sure how to get it in there. These sizes do not have
covers.

My other concerns is with stuff I plan to dump in it, sheet rock,
insulation, appliances and other debris, with daily pouring rain in Miami,
it will be very wet. I remember someone else rented one on the next blocks
and they had kids passing by dumping other stuff in it including beer
bottles, half eaten sandwiches, someone threw lawn chairs, plants etc...so
with the rain, you end up with bugs, rodents etc...a mess. That's why I am


Don't all those things go away when the dumpster is removed? Until
then the n'hood kids can use it as a biology lesson.


thinking the garage is the better way to go.

I wonder if I line the floor with plywood sheets as aemeujers suggested, and
ask them to unload onto the driveway can I slide it in? I think so...I am


Like Cheri said, there are dumpsters that are lifted at the front of
trucks and poured into the back. They often have 4 wheels.

I was under the impression that the usual temporary dumpster isn't
like that and has no more than two, roller wheels, and that it was
slid off the back of something like a flatbed, and then pulled back on
by a winch on the same truck. (So that it would be easy to back into a
garage, not that I'm saying this is a good idea. Ask the dumpster
company. I see no reason they would be inclined to lie, if the think
you'll rent it anyhow and put it on the curb.)

worried once it's filled up can I slide them out with the added weight.


The apartment building near my house used to keep their dumpsters near
their building, at the back door. But some of their tenants
complained about the smell, and they moved them all about 60 feet
away, and down a hill, at the edge of their parking lot, surrounded on
3 sides by a fence. They have about 4 of different sizes, and the two
small ones, I've seen them move around, but they use a small electric
fork lift, the kind that the driver walks behind, or in front of, and
it has big batteries to lift the dumpster up a couple inches, and to
power the wheels when the "driver" wants it to move.

These things are about 5 feet tall, by 5 feet wide, by 4 feet deep.

It's possible they don't really need the forklift, or only need it to
go uphill.

If you want, I'll go out and try to push one. I'll measure it for you
too if you say to. They seem heavy to me, but maybe I'm just misled by
the appearance.

About a week ago, one was over on its back, and it stayed that way for
at least a few hours. I think it would take several guys to right it.

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I was thinking of renting a 12' L x 8' W x 5' H so it should easily fit in
there. I am not sure how to get it in there. These sizes do not have
covers.


My friend who runs the ministorage has a dumpster that is about 6x6x6,
which is smaller than the dimensions you give. It has a lid on top
and a sliding door on the side. Thinking about that one, I know there
is no way I could move that one millimeter. She had to put in a
cement or concrete pad for them to rest it on, because it was ruining
the asphalt.

Come to think of it, they have a section between two rows of storage
lockers where they also had to put in cement or concrete pad because
they would park there for a while for some reason. I'll admit, I'm
talking aobut the whole truck now, and this is a dumpster they dump
into the truck, not a roll-off, but apparently they didn't damage the
asphalt while the truck was moving, but when it parked in one place
for a while, it did. Doesn't that sound strange?
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:39:26 -0500, "DanG" wrote:


You've not ever said what you are calling a dumpster. I think
most of us are thinking 20 / 30 / 40 cubic yard. 40's have really
tall side walls (about 8'), great for skid steers or roof
tearoffs. a bit tougher to load from the ground.


I want to tell a dumpster story.

Once, drving down First Avenue in NYC, I saw a dumpster next to the
curb, maybe 15 or 20 feet long, 5 feet high, and as wide as they
usually are, wide enough to fit in a parallel parking space and be
only a little farther into the street than a car.

There were people in it so I stopped to look. It was full of books,
hardback books with no dust covers, and the people in it were
gathering books. I got in, and in a half hour got about 20 books that
I was interested in. Two or three people would stand outside and
point to books they were interested in, but without dust covers, I
think it was pretty hard to tell which was which. I made a point to
come back 2 days later and the book level had gone from 4 to 5 feet
down to 2 to 3 feet. It was summer weather and I suspect they were
adding more books daily but that it was occupied 20 hours a day by
people taking books.

I went back 2 or 3 days after that and the people were still at it,
but I had my thirst for books quenched at that point, iirc. Maybe I
got one or two more.

A lot of acadmic books, non-fiction, serious works, some prayer books.
1st avenue and about 25st. I think it was too big to be a personal
library, and they could have put the dumpster closer if they were
emptying a house. I think they were cleaning out some kind of
warehouse.
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Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On
the driveway? In the backyard?


In my case, if I wanted to put it on the street, I was required to get a
permit from the city. I had them put it in my driveway, and sure enough it
left ruts in it (asphalt). The trick with the plywood would probably have
prevented this. I've also heard of putting 2xsomething under the wheels.

Another thing - watch out for overhead wires. They tilt the dumpster up
pretty high when they drop it off.


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