Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee. The
website was easy to navigate, although there were some
inconsistencies. For example, Angie's List claims to have a "Penalty
Box" for service providers; I could never find it.

(2) Provider Reports

Reports for most providers in my local community were sparse; in some
cases non-existent. There weren't more than two or three reports in
most categories. Not enough to see a trend.

(3) Submitting Reports

I submitted four reports based on service providers I had recently
used (one plumber, two roofers and one mortuary). Two of the reports
were "glowing" and two of the reports were negative. All of the
reports were clearly written, honest and used no profanity.

Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's List
"reviewed" reports.

After several more communications, over the next couple of weeks, I
learned that Angie's List would not post three of my reports because
they made reference to alternate service providers. I was not aware
that Angie's List "edited" or "censored" reports.

(4) Reports Credibility

I have no confidence in Angie's List reports. Here's why:

First of all, I immediately noticed that reports for some providers
were suspiciously similar. If there are only two reports for a
provider, and both reports have almost identical wording, one wonders
about the credibility of those reports.

In some categories, Angie's List has service providers which offer
coupons. Coupons! Does this mean that Angie's List has marketing
agreements which some providers? This would hardly enhance the
credibility of a provider.

Clearly reports cannot be credible if Angie's List "edits" or
"censors" the reports. From my own experience in submitting reports,
I know that Angie's List does precisely that.

Finally, how would Angie's List report on a company with a known bad
reputation? In our community, Whittier Home Roofing has just such a
bad reputation. But Whittier Home Roofing didn't show up on their
list for Roofers. I then searched by company name. Sure enough,
Whittier Home Roofing showed up as a service provider. However, when
I clicked to see the reports, Angie's List displayed the message:
"We're sorry, but Angie's List is not sharing information about this
company currently."

So that's it, Angie's List gladly publishes glowing reports about
service providers, but "edits" or "censors" reports which are
negative.

(5) Customer Service

Communication with Angie's List customer service was always timely. I
was prepared to file a complaint against Angie's List with our state
department of consumer affairs, however, Angie's List agreed to refund
my sign-up and membership fees and terminate my membership. So, I
can't call them a "scam." However, Angie's List is, in my opinion,
disreputable.

I've gotten calls from subscribers to Angies's list. Apparently they did
surveys in my area, got opinions about local contractors, and listed at
least some of them. People moving in to the area, who have no references for
contractors, use the service. It may be that they only want to list
"reputable" contractors, which seemed fine with the folks I met



wrote in message
ps.com...
Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee. The
website was easy to navigate, although there were some
inconsistencies. For example, Angie's List claims to have a "Penalty
Box" for service providers; I could never find it.

(2) Provider Reports

Reports for most providers in my local community were sparse; in some
cases non-existent. There weren't more than two or three reports in
most categories. Not enough to see a trend.

(3) Submitting Reports

I submitted four reports based on service providers I had recently
used (one plumber, two roofers and one mortuary). Two of the reports
were "glowing" and two of the reports were negative. All of the
reports were clearly written, honest and used no profanity.

Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's List
"reviewed" reports.

After several more communications, over the next couple of weeks, I
learned that Angie's List would not post three of my reports because
they made reference to alternate service providers. I was not aware
that Angie's List "edited" or "censored" reports.

(4) Reports Credibility

I have no confidence in Angie's List reports. Here's why:

First of all, I immediately noticed that reports for some providers
were suspiciously similar. If there are only two reports for a
provider, and both reports have almost identical wording, one wonders
about the credibility of those reports.

In some categories, Angie's List has service providers which offer
coupons. Coupons! Does this mean that Angie's List has marketing
agreements which some providers? This would hardly enhance the
credibility of a provider.

Clearly reports cannot be credible if Angie's List "edits" or
"censors" the reports. From my own experience in submitting reports,
I know that Angie's List does precisely that.

Finally, how would Angie's List report on a company with a known bad
reputation? In our community, Whittier Home Roofing has just such a
bad reputation. But Whittier Home Roofing didn't show up on their
list for Roofers. I then searched by company name. Sure enough,
Whittier Home Roofing showed up as a service provider. However, when
I clicked to see the reports, Angie's List displayed the message:
"We're sorry, but Angie's List is not sharing information about this
company currently."

So that's it, Angie's List gladly publishes glowing reports about
service providers, but "edits" or "censors" reports which are
negative.

(5) Customer Service

Communication with Angie's List customer service was always timely. I
was prepared to file a complaint against Angie's List with our state
department of consumer affairs, however, Angie's List agreed to refund
my sign-up and membership fees and terminate my membership. So, I
can't call them a "scam." However, Angie's List is, in my opinion,
disreputable.

wrote in message
ps.com...
Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee. The
website was easy to navigate, although there were some
inconsistencies. For example, Angie's List claims to have a
"Penalty
Box" for service providers; I could never find it.

(2) Provider Reports

Reports for most providers in my local community were sparse; in
some
cases non-existent. There weren't more than two or three reports in
most categories. Not enough to see a trend.

(3) Submitting Reports

I submitted four reports based on service providers I had recently
used (one plumber, two roofers and one mortuary). Two of the
reports
were "glowing" and two of the reports were negative. All of the
reports were clearly written, honest and used no profanity.

Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to
be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry
to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply
advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they
were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's
List
"reviewed" reports.

After several more communications, over the next couple of weeks, I
learned that Angie's List would not post three of my reports because
they made reference to alternate service providers. I was not aware
that Angie's List "edited" or "censored" reports.

(4) Reports Credibility

I have no confidence in Angie's List reports. Here's why:

First of all, I immediately noticed that reports for some providers
were suspiciously similar. If there are only two reports for a
provider, and both reports have almost identical wording, one
wonders
about the credibility of those reports.

In some categories, Angie's List has service providers which offer
coupons. Coupons! Does this mean that Angie's List has marketing
agreements which some providers? This would hardly enhance the
credibility of a provider.

Clearly reports cannot be credible if Angie's List "edits" or
"censors" the reports. From my own experience in submitting
reports,
I know that Angie's List does precisely that.

Finally, how would Angie's List report on a company with a known bad
reputation? In our community, Whittier Home Roofing has just such a
bad reputation. But Whittier Home Roofing didn't show up on their
list for Roofers. I then searched by company name. Sure enough,
Whittier Home Roofing showed up as a service provider. However,
when
I clicked to see the reports, Angie's List displayed the message:
"We're sorry, but Angie's List is not sharing information about this
company currently."

So that's it, Angie's List gladly publishes glowing reports about
service providers, but "edits" or "censors" reports which are
negative.

(5) Customer Service

Communication with Angie's List customer service was always timely.
I
was prepared to file a complaint against Angie's List with our state
department of consumer affairs, however, Angie's List agreed to
refund
my sign-up and membership fees and terminate my membership. So, I
can't call them a "scam." However, Angie's List is, in my opinion,
disreputable.


Thanks for the report. I had wondered about them.

Bob

"Bob F" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ps.com...
Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee. The
website was easy to navigate, although there were some
inconsistencies. For example, Angie's List claims to have a "Penalty
Box" for service providers; I could never find it.

(2) Provider Reports

Reports for most providers in my local community were sparse; in some
cases non-existent. There weren't more than two or three reports in
most categories. Not enough to see a trend.

(3) Submitting Reports

I submitted four reports based on service providers I had recently
used (one plumber, two roofers and one mortuary). Two of the reports
were "glowing" and two of the reports were negative. All of the
reports were clearly written, honest and used no profanity.

Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's List
"reviewed" reports.

After several more communications, over the next couple of weeks, I
learned that Angie's List would not post three of my reports because
they made reference to alternate service providers. I was not aware
that Angie's List "edited" or "censored" reports.

(4) Reports Credibility

I have no confidence in Angie's List reports. Here's why:

First of all, I immediately noticed that reports for some providers
were suspiciously similar. If there are only two reports for a
provider, and both reports have almost identical wording, one wonders
about the credibility of those reports.

In some categories, Angie's List has service providers which offer
coupons. Coupons! Does this mean that Angie's List has marketing
agreements which some providers? This would hardly enhance the
credibility of a provider.

Clearly reports cannot be credible if Angie's List "edits" or
"censors" the reports. From my own experience in submitting reports,
I know that Angie's List does precisely that.

Finally, how would Angie's List report on a company with a known bad
reputation? In our community, Whittier Home Roofing has just such a
bad reputation. But Whittier Home Roofing didn't show up on their
list for Roofers. I then searched by company name. Sure enough,
Whittier Home Roofing showed up as a service provider. However, when
I clicked to see the reports, Angie's List displayed the message:
"We're sorry, but Angie's List is not sharing information about this
company currently."

So that's it, Angie's List gladly publishes glowing reports about
service providers, but "edits" or "censors" reports which are
negative.

(5) Customer Service

Communication with Angie's List customer service was always timely. I
was prepared to file a complaint against Angie's List with our state
department of consumer affairs, however, Angie's List agreed to refund
my sign-up and membership fees and terminate my membership. So, I
can't call them a "scam." However, Angie's List is, in my opinion,
disreputable.


Thanks for the report. I had wondered about them.

Bob

My Angie's List experiences have been completely different. I've been a
member for the last 5 years and have used them 2-3 times each year for
various service providers and contractors -- everything from tree service to
household movers to plumbing and roofers.

I've had no trouble getting reports (usually by telephone) and have not
problems with any of the companies rated.

Is Angie's List new in your area? I noticed that when the office first
opened in our area (Cleveland/northern Ohio), it took a while for enough
members and reports to accumulate to be useful.

While I've filed a few reports (all favorable), I haven't checked up to see
if they've been posted.

TKM

writes:

Is Angie's List a Scam???
....
It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee.

Seven bucks a month and you ask if it's a scam?

Here were are sharing knowledge on Usenet for nothing.
Hmm. How much will you pay for my opinion?

wrote in message ...
Is Angie's List a Scam???


(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee.

Seems kind of pricey to me. How often will the average person use it for
$84 a year?

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:35:15 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


wrote in message ...
Is Angie's List a Scam???


(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee.

Seems kind of pricey to me. How often will the average person use it for
$84 a year?


I'm surpised that they make money with their business model. The
general idea of most online websites is to make the information free
or near free and derive your revenue from ads. It also skews the
demographics to people that are dumb enough to pay the $6.95 monthly
fee.

Plus, just how meaningful are these ratings? Suppose your competitor
hires his cousin to blacklist you. (They say) your employee told
dirty jokes to your teenage daughter, tracked mud on your white living
room carpet, and went to the bathroom without lifting the toilet seat.
How do you appeal something like that? If you are not a subsrciber,
do you have to pay just to see what dirt that others have written
about you.

Beachcomber

wrote:
It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee.

I recently paid $43 for an annual membership, might be different
pricing by region?


--

Originality is the fine art of remembering what you hear
but forgetting where you heard it.

....Laurence J. Peter

On 18 Jun, 19:36, wrote:
Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee. The
website was easy to navigate, although there were some
inconsistencies. For example, Angie's List claims to have a "Penalty
Box" for service providers; I could never find it.

(2) Provider Reports

Reports for most providers in my local community were sparse; in some
cases non-existent. There weren't more than two or three reports in
most categories. Not enough to see a trend.

(3) Submitting Reports

I submitted four reports based on service providers I had recently
used (one plumber, two roofers and one mortuary). Two of the reports
were "glowing" and two of the reports were negative. All of the
reports were clearly written, honest and used no profanity.

Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's List
"reviewed" reports.

After several more communications, over the next couple of weeks, I
learned that Angie's List would not post three of my reports because
they made reference to alternate service providers. I was not aware
that Angie's List "edited" or "censored" reports.

(4) Reports Credibility

I have no confidence in Angie's List reports. Here's why:

First of all, I immediately noticed that reports for some providers
were suspiciously similar. If there are only two reports for a
provider, and both reports have almost identical wording, one wonders
about the credibility of those reports.

In some categories, Angie's List has service providers which offer
coupons. Coupons! Does this mean that Angie's List has marketing
agreements which some providers? This would hardly enhance the
credibility of a provider.

Clearly reports cannot be credible if Angie's List "edits" or
"censors" the reports. From my own experience in submitting reports,
I know that Angie's List does precisely that.

Finally, how would Angie's List report on a company with a known bad
reputation? In our community, Whittier Home Roofing has just such a
bad reputation. But Whittier Home Roofing didn't show up on their
list for Roofers. I then searched by company name. Sure enough,
Whittier Home Roofing showed up as a service provider. However, when
I clicked to see the reports, Angie's List displayed the message:
"We're sorry, but Angie's List is not sharing information about this
company currently."

So that's it, Angie's List gladly publishes glowing reports about
service providers, but "edits" or "censors" reports which are
negative.

(5) Customer Service

Communication with Angie's List customer service was always timely. I
was prepared to file a complaint against Angie's List with our state
department of consumer affairs, however, Angie's List agreed to refund
my sign-up and membership fees and terminate my membership. So, I
can't call them a "scam." However, Angie's List is, in my opinion,
disreputable.

Angie's list has been discussed numerous times in various groups. Just
search on Angie's for some links.

Here's a copy of my $.02 from another thread.



Nice web site tour, but here's the issue I see.


Contractors don't get on the list until a member submits a comment
about them. Now let me quote something from the FAQ:


Q - Why would I use Angie's List when I can just ask my neighbors for
recommendations?


A - How long would it take you to find 25 people who have all used
the
same contractor and then conduct an in depth interview with them
about
their service experience? Spend hours on the phone, or just log onto
Angie's List and find trustworthy contractors with a proven track
record in minutes.


OK, for this to true, I would have to assume that there are actually
25
people in my city who are not only Angie's List members, but have
also
used the same contractor AND submitted a review of that contractor.
Somehow, I'm just not confident that there are enough members in my
community to make a $57 membership worth the money. They do say
"Annual
membership dues are backed by our 110% money back, satisfaction
guarantee" so I guess you could be dissatisfied real soon after you
join
if you really wanted to check it out.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On 18 Jun, 19:36, wrote:
Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee. The
website was easy to navigate, although there were some
inconsistencies. For example, Angie's List claims to have a "Penalty
Box" for service providers; I could never find it.

(2) Provider Reports

Reports for most providers in my local community were sparse; in some
cases non-existent. There weren't more than two or three reports in
most categories. Not enough to see a trend.

(3) Submitting Reports

I submitted four reports based on service providers I had recently
used (one plumber, two roofers and one mortuary). Two of the reports
were "glowing" and two of the reports were negative. All of the
reports were clearly written, honest and used no profanity.

Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's List
"reviewed" reports.

After several more communications, over the next couple of weeks, I
learned that Angie's List would not post three of my reports because
they made reference to alternate service providers. I was not aware
that Angie's List "edited" or "censored" reports.

(4) Reports Credibility

I have no confidence in Angie's List reports. Here's why:

First of all, I immediately noticed that reports for some providers
were suspiciously similar. If there are only two reports for a
provider, and both reports have almost identical wording, one wonders
about the credibility of those reports.

In some categories, Angie's List has service providers which offer
coupons. Coupons! Does this mean that Angie's List has marketing
agreements which some providers? This would hardly enhance the
credibility of a provider.

Clearly reports cannot be credible if Angie's List "edits" or
"censors" the reports. From my own experience in submitting reports,
I know that Angie's List does precisely that.

Finally, how would Angie's List report on a company with a known bad
reputation? In our community, Whittier Home Roofing has just such a
bad reputation. But Whittier Home Roofing didn't show up on their
list for Roofers. I then searched by company name. Sure enough,
Whittier Home Roofing showed up as a service provider. However, when
I clicked to see the reports, Angie's List displayed the message:
"We're sorry, but Angie's List is not sharing information about this
company currently."

So that's it, Angie's List gladly publishes glowing reports about
service providers, but "edits" or "censors" reports which are
negative.

(5) Customer Service

Communication with Angie's List customer service was always timely. I
was prepared to file a complaint against Angie's List with our state
department of consumer affairs, however, Angie's List agreed to refund
my sign-up and membership fees and terminate my membership. So, I
can't call them a "scam." However, Angie's List is, in my opinion,
disreputable.

Angie's list has been discussed numerous times in various groups. Just
search on Angie's for some links.

Here's a copy of my $.02 from another thread.



Nice web site tour, but here's the issue I see.


Contractors don't get on the list until a member submits a comment
about them. Now let me quote something from the FAQ:


Q - Why would I use Angie's List when I can just ask my neighbors for
recommendations?


A - How long would it take you to find 25 people who have all used
the
same contractor and then conduct an in depth interview with them
about
their service experience? Spend hours on the phone, or just log onto
Angie's List and find trustworthy contractors with a proven track
record in minutes.


OK, for this to true, I would have to assume that there are actually
25
people in my city who are not only Angie's List members, but have
also
used the same contractor AND submitted a review of that contractor.
Somehow, I'm just not confident that there are enough members in my
community to make a $57 membership worth the money. They do say
"Annual
membership dues are backed by our 110% money back, satisfaction
guarantee" so I guess you could be dissatisfied real soon after you
join
if you really wanted to check it out.

It's one of those ideas that sounds good when you first hear it, but as
is so often true, "the devil is in the details". It first relies on a
large population so that there are sufficient potential clients and
"reviewers/customers" to have _any_ chance for success. That, then,
creates its own problem in that in a large metro area, the contractors
reviewed may be 50 miles or more removed and don't do business where you
actually are even if they are "in" the same metro area. That doesn't
even begin to address the issues of how to judge the competency of the
reviewer to actually make a value judgment, the issue of favoritism or
bias/grudge earlier raised, etc., etc., etc., ...

I think it's a fatally flawed concept in reality but may well perform
its primary purpose of making the originator a bundle before it goes
belly-up--and remember, _that's_ the fundamental objective. If it
happens to connect one or two individuals to a contractor on the way, so
much the better, but that's pretty much a sidelight I think.

imo, ymmv, $0.02, etc.,etc., ...

--

"dpb" wrote in message
I think it's a fatally flawed concept in reality but may well perform its
primary purpose of making the originator a bundle before it goes
belly-up--and remember, _that's_ the fundamental objective. If it happens
to connect one or two individuals to a contractor on the way, so much the
better, but that's pretty much a sidelight I think.

imo, ymmv, $0.02, etc.,etc., ...

I know a couple of contractors that never advertise, are not listed in the
Yellow Pages, yet have all the work they can handle. They don't want to be
on Angie's or anyone's list for that reason. I'm cautious as to whom I'd
recommend them

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message
I think it's a fatally flawed concept in reality but may well perform its
primary purpose of making the originator a bundle before it goes
belly-up--and remember, _that's_ the fundamental objective. If it happens
to connect one or two individuals to a contractor on the way, so much the
better, but that's pretty much a sidelight I think.

imo, ymmv, $0.02, etc.,etc., ...

I know a couple of contractors that never advertise, are not listed in the
Yellow Pages, yet have all the work they can handle. They don't want to be
on Angie's or anyone's list for that reason. I'm cautious as to whom I'd
recommend them

That, too...the _best_ are normally in that class of having more work
than they can handle simply by "walk-in" referrals...

--

On 2007-06-18, wrote:
Angie's List claims that it takes two business days for reports to be
posted. After about a week, with nothing posted, I sent an inquiry to
their customer service department. I received a timely reply advising
me that it was taking them longer to review reports because they were
receiving "over 1000 reports a week." I didn't know that Angie's List
"reviewed" reports.

Maybe you should have read the membership agreement. It clearly states
that they review the reports before they appear.

wrote:

Is Angie's List a Scam???

Responding to their promotions on National Public Radio (NPR), I
recently signed-up for a membership on Angie's List. What a good
idea, I thought: a database of local service provider reports,
submitted by people in my local community, and supported by our
membership fees.

I was wrong. If Angie's List isn't a scam, in my opinion they
misrepresent the services they provide. Here's what I experienced:

(1) Sign-up and Ease of Use

It cost me $10 to sign-up plus a $6.95 monthly recurring fee.

Bingo! There's your answer.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:15:08 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote:


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Steve,

The original post is from "June 18, 2007"

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On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:15:08 -0800, "SteveB"
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Steve,

The original post is from "June 18, 2007"

............. and ..................?

It is relevant today, isn't it?

Steve

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On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:15:08 -0800, "SteveB"
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Steve,

The original post is from "June 18, 2007"

More Homeowners hub isn't it?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:00:58 +0000,
(bowserb) wrote:

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...am-226509-.htm
bowserb wrote:
I need a good motorcycle shop, so I thought I\'d try this service. The
price seemed a bit high, so I passed. Over the next couple weeks, I
received email offers of 20% off, then 40% off, so I went back.

I doubt angie's list is a scam but in general, any place that can be
rated anonymously is going to be very tempting for the owner and all
his family to rate positively.

It's not illegal like some of the things merchants do, and many bad
places think they are great places giving great service. Just look at
the businessme who show up on tv court shows, unafraid to lose
business because they believe they are right, even when they aren't.

I haven't heard much about this, but I do want you to know that
Mm2005 Products and Services will give you the best buy on any product
you would want to buy or rent, and they have the most competent and
reliable service personnel for any service you can think of.

They do business in every state in the union and every country on
earth. Just email them at , like I did, and
they read my detailed request, and promptly replied in detail. They
were 35% lower than any other company, did the work in 2/3rds the
time, and left the place spotless. I can't recommend them enough.
They even brought my wife flowers the last day.

A satisfied customer.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:57:58 -0500, mm
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:00:58 +0000,
(bowserb) wrote:

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...am-226509-.htm
bowserb wrote:
I need a good motorcycle shop, so I thought I\'d try this service. The
price seemed a bit high, so I passed. Over the next couple weeks, I
received email offers of 20% off, then 40% off, so I went back.

I doubt angie's list is a scam but in general, any place that can be
rated anonymously is going to be very tempting for the owner and all
his family to rate positively.

It's not illegal like some of the things merchants do, and many bad
places think they are great places giving great service. Just look at
the businessme who show up on tv court shows, unafraid to lose
business because they believe they are right, even when they aren't.

I haven't heard much about this, but I do want you to know that
Mm2005 Products and Services will give you the best buy on any product
you would want to buy or rent, and they have the most competent and
reliable service personnel for any service you can think of.

They do business in every state in the union and every country on
earth. Just email them at , like I did, and
they read my detailed request, and promptly replied in detail. They
were 35% lower than any other company, did the work in 2/3rds the
time, and left the place spotless. I can't recommend them enough.
They even brought my wife flowers the last day.

A satisfied customer.

I take issue with the prior review. Four of my neigbors and I all
hired Mm2005 Products and Services for services, and 3 other neighbors
bought products from them. It was bad, bad, bad, all bad. Finally
this nice man came to my door representing Acme Services and Products.

AS&P does everything Mm2005 does and they do it right. I've used them
and I've told all my neighbors and friends about them. Of course my
family already knew my son-in-law, so I didn't have to tell them.

AS&P does a great job.

On 3/9/2011 2:11 AM, Olivia Dunham wrote:

I asked about Angie's List a while back and got no responses from anyone
who had actually signed up. I too am very curious. The site seems
mysterious! It is a site that is oriented towards local service reviews,
but you have to pay to become a member and participate.

It's not something to pay for, that's for sure.

In my area the definitive source for consumer information is Consumers'
Checkbook (http://www.checkbook.org/), but they only cover a few metro
areas (Boston, Chicago, Delaware Valley, Puget Sound, San Francisco,
Twin Cities, & Washington DC). It's not free ($17/year). It's a
non-profit organization. They don't make recommendations, they do
surveys and they rate businesses.