"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
Too busy here to respond in detail at the moment, but:

But you will anyway, Doug Kanter.

I'm not a big fan of dogs, but you apparently are

Many people enjoy a dogs company Doug, you advocate killing your neighbors
dog if you can catch him or poison him with a bowl of antifreeze.

Scott's franchises are in business to sell chemicals, none of which can be
legally tested for safety in humans. I have no idea if they've ever used
dogs as test subjects. Probably not.

You hate dogs, you talk about leaving bowls of anti freeze out for them.

Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I'm sure you have some data to back up your claim of children spraying
control product on lawns in the USA, right?

They hire grocery stock boys at that age first, ask your dad and your son,
then yourself.

They lie to these
employees, telling them that the stuff they're spraying is safe around
food
Most real applicators are pesticide certified by the state they're doing
business in. You can't lie to them.

Now go get your shine-box, stockboy Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom.

"Larry" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
Too busy here to respond in detail at the moment, but:

But you will anyway, Doug Kanter.

I'm not a big fan of dogs, but you apparently are

Many people enjoy a dogs company Doug, you advocate killing your
neighbors dog if you can catch him or poison him with a bowl of
antifreeze.

Scott's franchises are in business to sell chemicals, none of which can be
legally tested for safety in humans. I have no idea if they've ever used
dogs as test subjects. Probably not.

You hate dogs, you talk about leaving bowls of anti freeze out for them.

Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I'm sure you have some data to back up your claim of children spraying
control product on lawns in the USA, right?

They hire grocery stock boys at that age first, ask your dad and your son,
then yourself.

They lie to these
employees, telling them that the stuff they're spraying is safe around
food
Most real applicators are pesticide certified by the state they're doing
business in. You can't lie to them.

Now go get your shine-box, stockboy Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom.


High school children. Exactly what I said. I've seen it. Prove me wrong.
Right the **** now.

Prove me wrong.

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:18:36 -0400, "Larry" wrote:


Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I heard on the news tonight that one drugstore chain hires high school
children as assistants to dispense prescription drugs.

They showed one person who was crippled and couldn't talk and had a
contorted face after taking the wrong prescription. The drugstore
said that the teenager put in pills with ten times as much dosage, and
the pharmacist, who reviewed*** what the kid had done, missed the
mistake.

***They said he reviewed it anyhow.

They had another example also, who maybe died.

The drugstore said that there were only a couple cases out of millions
of prescriptions properly filled. But who knows how many mistakes
there really were, including those didn't cure like they should have,
but didn't have noticeable side effects. Etc.

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:27:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
Too busy here to respond in detail at the moment, but:

But you will anyway, Doug Kanter.

I'm not a big fan of dogs, but you apparently are

Many people enjoy a dogs company Doug, you advocate killing your
neighbors dog if you can catch him or poison him with a bowl of
antifreeze.

Scott's franchises are in business to sell chemicals, none of which can
be
legally tested for safety in humans. I have no idea if they've ever
used
dogs as test subjects. Probably not.

You hate dogs, you talk about leaving bowls of anti freeze out for them.

Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I'm sure you have some data to back up your claim of children spraying
control product on lawns in the USA, right?

They hire grocery stock boys at that age first, ask your dad and your
son,
then yourself.

They lie to these
employees, telling them that the stuff they're spraying is safe around
food
Most real applicators are pesticide certified by the state they're doing
business in. You can't lie to them.

Now go get your shine-box, stockboy Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom.


High school children. Exactly what I said. I've seen it. Prove me wrong.
Right the **** now.

Prove me wrong.


In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides
under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and
if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM

Apparently, things are different in NY.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:27:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
Too busy here to respond in detail at the moment, but:

But you will anyway, Doug Kanter.

I'm not a big fan of dogs, but you apparently are

Many people enjoy a dogs company Doug, you advocate killing your
neighbors dog if you can catch him or poison him with a bowl of
antifreeze.

Scott's franchises are in business to sell chemicals, none of which can
be
legally tested for safety in humans. I have no idea if they've ever
used
dogs as test subjects. Probably not.

You hate dogs, you talk about leaving bowls of anti freeze out for
them.

Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I'm sure you have some data to back up your claim of children spraying
control product on lawns in the USA, right?

They hire grocery stock boys at that age first, ask your dad and your
son,
then yourself.

They lie to these
employees, telling them that the stuff they're spraying is safe around
food
Most real applicators are pesticide certified by the state they're
doing
business in. You can't lie to them.

Now go get your shine-box, stockboy Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom.


High school children. Exactly what I said. I've seen it. Prove me wrong.
Right the **** now.

Prove me wrong.


In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides
under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and
if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM

Apparently, things are different in NY.

Apparently you don't know your ass from a garden weasel, Doug.

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:11:30 -0400, mm
wrote:


Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I heard on the news tonight that one drugstore chain hires high school
children as assistants to dispense prescription drugs.

One more thing, the girl they interviewed was 16 years old.

They showed one person who was crippled and couldn't talk and had a
contorted face after taking the wrong prescription. The drugstore
said that the teenager put in pills with ten times as much dosage, and
the pharmacist, who reviewed*** what the kid had done, missed the
mistake.

***They said he reviewed it anyhow.

Charlie Morgan wrote:




In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM

I would guess that would be the same in most states, but they probably
do allow under aged "helpers", not licensed to apply the pesticides, but
there to help keep the hoses untangled, get tools when needed, etc.
And I can see where Billy Bob SR. of BB's Bug Control would let Billy
Bob Jr actually do the application especially if he had been helping
Pops since he was 12.

Lar

"Lar" wrote in message
. ..
Charlie Morgan wrote:




In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides
under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and
if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM

I would guess that would be the same in most states, but they probably do
allow under aged "helpers", not licensed to apply the pesticides, but
there to help keep the hoses untangled, get tools when needed, etc. And I
can see where Billy Bob SR. of BB's Bug Control would let Billy Bob Jr
actually do the application especially if he had been helping Pops since
he was 12.

Lar


Exactly. And, since people that young have ZERO historical perspective, with
regard to chemicals, they'll believe anything they're told.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Lar" wrote in message
. ..
Charlie Morgan wrote:




In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides
under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and
if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM

I would guess that would be the same in most states, but they probably do
allow under aged "helpers", not licensed to apply the pesticides, but
there to help keep the hoses untangled, get tools when needed, etc. And I
can see where Billy Bob SR. of BB's Bug Control would let Billy Bob Jr
actually do the application especially if he had been helping Pops since
he was 12.

Lar


Exactly. And, since people that young have ZERO historical perspective,
with regard to chemicals, they'll believe anything they're told.
Have you trained your son in the fine art of poisoning your neighbors dog
with a well placed bowl of antifreeze yet, Dougie?

Never mind, he doesn't believe anything you say anyway stockboy.

Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.

skunker wrote:
Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.



Looks like...Florida.

"skunker" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.


My opinion is your area is probably Texas. Or something inline with central
USA. All have been getting an unusual amount of rainfall. SE USA is
definitely on its way to a drought.

All my St. Augustine was in the condition in the first photo last
summer/autumn. Most of it has returned as in your second photo. Same fix.
Mother nature's cooler temps, overcast even when not raining preventing
dryup of the upper soil surface, and regular rainfall.
Dave

On May 28, 9:55 pm, "Dave" wrote:
"skunker" wrote in message

oups.com...





Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.

My opinion is your area is probably Texas. Or something inline with central
USA. All have been getting an unusual amount of rainfall. SE USA is
definitely on its way to a drought.

All my St. Augustine was in the condition in the first photo last
summer/autumn. Most of it has returned as in your second photo. Same fix.
Mother nature's cooler temps, overcast even when not raining preventing
dryup of the upper soil surface, and regular rainfall.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's exactly it. I am also located in San Antonio.

"skunker" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 28, 9:55 pm, "Dave" wrote:
"skunker" wrote in message

oups.com...





Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.

My opinion is your area is probably Texas. Or something inline with
central
USA. All have been getting an unusual amount of rainfall. SE USA is
definitely on its way to a drought.

All my St. Augustine was in the condition in the first photo last
summer/autumn. Most of it has returned as in your second photo. Same
fix.
Mother nature's cooler temps, overcast even when not raining preventing
dryup of the upper soil surface, and regular rainfall.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's exactly it. I am also located in San Antonio.


Wimberley outlying area here. I've heard much praise about rain, but that's
only half the factor. So much daily overcast, it became depressing. But,
it kept the dampness in the upper soil when it wasn't raining/drizzling.
Add that to our lower temps. Formula for all things green to grow and
spread.

Am anticipating bugs galore attacking the garden when it heats up again.
Native stuff will dry up as it always does in the summer. Those bugs gotta
eat something. I've never seen katydids out here. They're here now.
Still, no bees.
Dave

In article k.net,
"Dave" wrote:

Still, no bees.
Dave

Time to get up close and friendly with yer veggies.

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

On May 29, 11:24 pm, "Dave" wrote:
"skunker" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 28, 9:55 pm, "Dave" wrote:
"skunker" wrote in message

groups.com...

Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.

My opinion is your area is probably Texas. Or something inline with
central
USA. All have been getting an unusual amount of rainfall. SE USA is
definitely on its way to a drought.

All my St. Augustine was in the condition in the first photo last
summer/autumn. Most of it has returned as in your second photo. Same
fix.
Mother nature's cooler temps, overcast even when not raining preventing
dryup of the upper soil surface, and regular rainfall.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That's exactly it. I am also located in San Antonio.

Wimberley outlying area here. I've heard much praise about rain, but that's
only half the factor. So much daily overcast, it became depressing. But,
it kept the dampness in the upper soil when it wasn't raining/drizzling.
Add that to our lower temps. Formula for all things green to grow and
spread.

Am anticipating bugs galore attacking the garden when it heats up again.
Native stuff will dry up as it always does in the summer. Those bugs gotta
eat something. I've never seen katydids out here. They're here now.
Still, no bees.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Had some armyworm types, but not sure what they were. They were eating
the parsley and I let them do that for a bit. Now they are gone. I
wonder if birds may have gotten them? So far not too bad on the
insects...mostly had ladybugs and wasps, but those are "good" insects,
according to this book I have. Also fire ants on the corner of the
lot, but I will deal with them later.

Been pretty quiet, but the morning doves are getting really on my
nerves. I hate their coo coos. I do enjoy seeing the bluejays flying
around and some finches (not sure) have taken residence in the trees.

Just a few minutes ago I saw a bird break its wing and I had to push
him out into the street so he doesn't get boxed into my backyard. Poor
guy. Can't believe I got so depressed over it. He was real droopy and
I think he needed water. WIsh I could do more. Two days ago I had to
knock a squirrel out after i found him lying in a coma state in the
middle of the street (stupid drivers driving too fast in my
neighborhood, probably got hit by car). I think I made it worse,
wasn't sure what to do, but couldn't decapitate it. GOsh, I'm such a
wuss. But the more I spend caring for the landscape and watching the
animals, the more they become a part of me.

-N