Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.

"al" wrote in message
oups.com...
Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.


I'm a big fan of T1-11. Built a couple 10 by 12 sheds with it - use it for
sides on a small utility trailer - and the decks of 2 landscape trailers.
Never thought of it for fencing - but why not. I might just seal the upper
edges real good. I wouldn't worry about rain water bothering the grooves.

http://www.konhaber.com/?syf=yzr&yzr=r95L6SeBuh

Ömer ÖZDEMÝR wrote:

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"So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!"
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www.davebbq.com

The 8 foot fence behind my house is built with T111.

It has been there for years and seems to be holding up pretty well.

I not sure I would install the panels horizontally though.

Is it a problem to cut them in to 4 footers and install them
vertically?

On 19 Mar 2007 15:06:36 -0700, "Ömer ÖZDEMÝR"
wrote:

http://www.konhaber.com/?syf=yzr&yzr=r95L6SeBuh

The jackass doesn't bother to start his own threads but sticks his
nose in others.

Kerplunk.

On Mar 19, 6:47 pm, wrote:
The 8 foot fence behind my house is built with T111.

It has been there for years and seems to be holding up pretty well.

I not sure I would install the panels horizontally though.

Is it a problem to cut them in to 4 footers and install them
vertically?

No problem doing it vertically. I'm just thinking the horizontal
would look interesting. And I would actually be doing an 8' fence
with 2 panels per section, one above the other. May require
additional fastening to insure the joint between the two is strong
enough?

"al" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 19, 6:47 pm, wrote:
The 8 foot fence behind my house is built with T111.

It has been there for years and seems to be holding up pretty well.

I not sure I would install the panels horizontally though.

Is it a problem to cut them in to 4 footers and install them
vertically?

No problem doing it vertically. I'm just thinking the horizontal
would look interesting. And I would actually be doing an 8' fence
with 2 panels per section, one above the other. May require
additional fastening to insure the joint between the two is strong
enough?


Should work OK. There will be one hell of a lot of wind load on it so be
sure to use plenty of deep posts.

If you are in an area with zoning, check before you put up an 8' fence.
That would not be permitted in many places.

"al" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 19, 6:47 pm, wrote:
The 8 foot fence behind my house is built with T111.

It has been there for years and seems to be holding up pretty well.

I not sure I would install the panels horizontally though.

Is it a problem to cut them in to 4 footers and install them
vertically?

No problem doing it vertically. I'm just thinking the horizontal
would look interesting. And I would actually be doing an 8' fence
with 2 panels per section, one above the other. May require
additional fastening to insure the joint between the two is strong
enough?


The potential problem I see with your suggestion is that the edges of the
long grooves expose a lot of end grain. It also provides a 'resevoir' where
water lays longer than in the vertical orientation and allows time for the
wood to absorb water. There is also the issue of voids which are only
apparent along these groove and which provide a conduit for the water to
permeate deeper into the sheet. I agree that the horizontal orientation
would be a novel and pleasing technique but not without performing some sort
of sealing along the top edge of each groove. My caulking gun arm is
already feeling like tennis elbow - LOL. Whatever you do, have some from!.

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you


--

On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 04:18:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

But I wasn't addressing the OP. I was addressing the poster, who
posted less than a day before I did.

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 04:18:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

But I wasn't addressing the OP. I was addressing the poster, who
posted less than a day before I did.

In that case, why did you ask him "Why do you think it woudl (sic) be a good idea?"

He never offered any indication as to whether he thought it was a good
idea or not. All he did was ask if the OP ever installed it and wondered
how it worked out.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:39:46 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 04:18:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

But I wasn't addressing the OP. I was addressing the poster, who
posted less than a day before I did.

In that case, why did you ask him "Why do you think it woudl (sic) be a good idea?"

He never offered any indication as to whether he thought it was a good
idea or not. All he did was ask if the OP ever installed it and wondered
how it worked out.

I think he did offer an indication. I don't think he would have
asked if he wasn't considering doing it himself. I certainly don't
think he would have asked if he already was sure it was a bad idea. So
that leaves that he wasn't sure it was a bad idea and must have had
reason to think it was a good idea.

Even if you don't see it that way, that's the way I see it and it's
not unreasonable.

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 4:14:48 PM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:39:46 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 04:18:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

But I wasn't addressing the OP. I was addressing the poster, who
posted less than a day before I did.

In that case, why did you ask him "Why do you think it woudl (sic) be a good idea?"

He never offered any indication as to whether he thought it was a good
idea or not. All he did was ask if the OP ever installed it and wondered
how it worked out.

I think he did offer an indication. I don't think he would have
asked if he wasn't considering doing it himself. I certainly don't
think he would have asked if he already was sure it was a bad idea. So
that leaves that he wasn't sure it was a bad idea and must have had
reason to think it was a good idea.

Even if you don't see it that way, that's the way I see it and it's
not unreasonable.

Considering doing something and thinking it's a good idea do not go hand in hand.

I've "considered" doing things a certain way until I did some research to find out If
it was good idea or not. Having an idea is not the same thing as thinking it's
a good - or bad - idea. Sometimes it's just an idea.

He merely asked if the OP did it and how it worked out. That can - and should - be
nothing more than a person doing some research.

On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:06:39 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 4:14:48 PM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:39:46 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 04:18:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

But I wasn't addressing the OP. I was addressing the poster, who
posted less than a day before I did.

In that case, why did you ask him "Why do you think it woudl (sic) be a good idea?"

He never offered any indication as to whether he thought it was a good
idea or not. All he did was ask if the OP ever installed it and wondered
how it worked out.

I think he did offer an indication. I don't think he would have
asked if he wasn't considering doing it himself. I certainly don't
think he would have asked if he already was sure it was a bad idea. So
that leaves that he wasn't sure it was a bad idea and must have had
reason to think it was a good idea.

Even if you don't see it that way, that's the way I see it and it's
not unreasonable.

Considering doing something and thinking it's a good idea do not go hand in hand.

I didn't say he thought it was a good idea. I said he had some
reason to think it was a good idea. There might have been bigger
reasons that it was a bad idea, and that's why he posted here, to find
out if there were.

I've "considered" doing things a certain way until I did some research to find out If
it was good idea or not.

Why did you consider doing it if you didn't think there was some
reason, perhaps a reason not yet known to you, that it was a good
idea?

Having an idea is not the same thing as thinking it's
a good - or bad - idea. Sometimes it's just an idea.

Yes, but you've broadened the scenario from what we had here. We
didn't just have an idea. We had an idea that he thought was worth
investigating. People don't do that unless they have at least a
suspicion that it's a good idea. If there's no chance that it's a
good idea, they don't investigate.

He merely asked if the OP did it and how it worked out. That can - and should - be
nothing more than a person doing some research.

Should? You're going to tell Fer T111 what he *should* be
thinking?

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 9:13:08 PM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:06:39 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 4:14:48 PM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:39:46 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 11:13:50 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 04:18:50 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 1:37:08 AM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:44:02 +0000, Fer t111
wrote:

replying to al, Fer t111 wrote:
alborasso wrote:

Would T111 be acceptable for use in a fence application? I'm thinking
of installing it horizontally, but wonder whether water remaining in
the grooves after it rains would be a reason to reconsider.
And if there would be other considerations as well.



Did you ever install the T 111 as fencing horizontally? And if you did,
how did it work out. Thank you

Why do you think it woudl be a good idea? How did you plan to use
it?

The second floor my of house is covered in it, but there is also chip
board or something behind it, to which it is nailed.

I think 4x8 sheets of t-111 would flop around, especially in the wind
unless you mean to have it on top of, attached to a fence, maybe with
2 horizontal rails, or 2 rails and 2 diagonals. I'm not sure the
latter could be flat enough to attach to.

Also when a big wind comes, they'll be enormous forces on a 4x8 sheet.
Maybe a 2x8 sheet??

A lot of people have stockade fences, even 7 feet high. I wonder,
when the wind blows, how much air makes it through the cracks between
the pickets. If not much, then maybe the T-111 would be okay in the
wind. (but don't take my word.)

The rain in the grooves seems like the least of the consideration. My
walls were covered with semi?-transparent latex stain, which doesn't
seem like a lot of protection, but it rains on them all the time, and
they're in good condition except on the south side where sunlight hits
them all day for months.

I hope the OP takes your advice...8 years after the question was asked.

But I wasn't addressing the OP. I was addressing the poster, who
posted less than a day before I did.

In that case, why did you ask him "Why do you think it woudl (sic) be a good idea?"

He never offered any indication as to whether he thought it was a good
idea or not. All he did was ask if the OP ever installed it and wondered
how it worked out.

I think he did offer an indication. I don't think he would have
asked if he wasn't considering doing it himself. I certainly don't
think he would have asked if he already was sure it was a bad idea. So
that leaves that he wasn't sure it was a bad idea and must have had
reason to think it was a good idea.

Even if you don't see it that way, that's the way I see it and it's
not unreasonable.

Considering doing something and thinking it's a good idea do not go hand in hand.

I didn't say he thought it was a good idea.

Let's see...

First you asked him why he thinks it's a good idea.

Now you say you didn't say he thought it was a good idea.

Moving on...


I said he had s961280416922512ome
reason to think it was a good idea. There might have been bigger
reasons that it was a bad idea, and that's why he posted here, to find
out if there were.

I've "considered" doing things a certain way until I did some research to find out If
it was good idea or not.

Why did you consider doing it if you didn't think there was some
reason, perhaps a reason not yet known to you, that it was a good
idea?

Having an idea is not the same thing as thinking it's
a good - or bad - idea. Sometimes it's just an idea.

Yes, but you've broadened the scenario from what we had here. We
didn't just have an idea. We had an idea that he thought was worth
investigating. People don't do that unless they have at least a
suspicion that it's a good idea. If there's no chance that it's a
good idea, they don't investigate.

He merely asked if the OP did it and how it worked out. That can - and should - be
nothing more than a person doing some research.

Should? You're going to tell Fer T111 what he *should* be
thinking?