Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....

wrote:
Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....

I would suggest that the difference in fuel is about 3% of the equation
and the difference of design is 97%. You don't use the same orifice for
both fuels so the results should be very similar.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Joseph Meehan wrote:
wrote:

Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....


I would suggest that the difference in fuel is about 3% of the equation
and the difference of design is 97%. You don't use the same orifice for
both fuels so the results should be very similar.


Agreed. If proper orifice is used for either gas, they "should" put out
roughly the same heat. BTUs

wrote in message
Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....

The benefits of natural gas are summarized he
http://bbq.about.com/od/gasgrills/a/aa030505a.htm

But my personal experience is that all things being equal, nothing beats
wood and real wood charcoal. But, there are times when I opt for using my
gas grill.

For years I had a propane grill. In 2000 I switched to a Sunbeam natural
gas grill. I love the convenience of never worrying about how much gas I
have left. I have not had a problem with a lack of heat. In fact, I have
never really had to use the high setting.

Hope that helps
Chris

I agree, I won't, and will never use a gas grill. Might just as well put
the **** in the oven inside.

--
Steve Barker




"swibirun" wrote in message
.. .
But my personal experience is that all things being equal, nothing beats
wood and real wood charcoal.
Hope that helps
Chris

Weber's website seems to imply that their grills have the same btu
output whether it's the NG or propane version.

When I bought a Weber NG grill I was very surprised to see that it
cooked much hotter than my older propane grill. They're not exactly
the same model (due to the age difference) but the temperature
difference was pretty big.

A factor to consider, in addition to fuel, is what the grates are made
out of. Cast iron grates take longer to heat up but they hold heat
longer. So you should remember that even though the air temp inside
the grill might be 500 or 600 degrees, the cooking grates might not be
that hot for a while.

Shaun Eli
www.BrainChampagne.com
Brain Champagne: Clever Comedy for Smart Minds (sm)

wrote:
Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....


When converting most common fueled appliances, such as Cooktops, ovens,
& gas fireplaces, switching them to over to LP from natural gas actually
lowers the BTU's.

Newsreader wrote:

When converting most common fueled appliances, such as Cooktops, ovens,
& gas fireplaces, switching them to over to LP from natural gas actually
lowers the BTU's.

Why would that be? LP gas has approximately twice the BTU content by volume as
natural gas. Even if if the orifice was reduced by half, the heat content would
be the same, not less.

Rick Blaine wrote:
Newsreader wrote:

When converting most common fueled appliances, such as Cooktops, ovens,
& gas fireplaces, switching them to over to LP from natural gas actually
lowers the BTU's.

Why would that be? LP gas has approximately twice the BTU content by volume as
natural gas. Even if if the orifice was reduced by half, the heat content would
be the same, not less.

For example, re-jet a Viking gas cooktop for LP, and each burner's BTU
rating drops by 500, as per spec sheet he

http://www.vikingrange.com/MEDIA_Cus...vgsu_specs.pdf

on page 2.

I don't have the spec handy, but my gas fireplace rating is lower with
LP than NG as well.

Newsreader wrote:

For example, re-jet a Viking gas cooktop for LP, and each burner's BTU
rating drops by 500, as per spec sheet he

http://www.vikingrange.com/MEDIA_Cus...vgsu_specs.pdf

on page 2.

I don't have the spec handy, but my gas fireplace rating is lower with
LP than NG as well.

How strange. Maybe the pressure is lower with LP gas?

--




"Rick Blaine" wrote in message
...
Newsreader wrote:

For example, re-jet a Viking gas cooktop for LP, and each burner's BTU
rating drops by 500, as per spec sheet he

http://www.vikingrange.com/MEDIA_Cus...vgsu_specs.pdf

on page 2.

I don't have the spec handy, but my gas fireplace rating is lower with
LP than NG as well.

How strange. Maybe the pressure is lower with LP gas?

the pressure is 2-3 times higher than NG

Bob Pietrangelo
(home)
(work)
www.comfort-solution.biz

In article . com, " wrote:
Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....

Several years ago, we moved from a home with LP gas to one with natural gas.
It turned out that it cost only about $25 to replace the orifices on our
grill, so, rather than buy a new grill, we converted the old one from LP to
natural.

Same burner. New orifices.

It burns a HELL of a lot hotter on NG than it ever did on LP.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article . com,
" wrote:
Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....

Several years ago, we moved from a home with LP gas to one with natural
gas.
It turned out that it cost only about $25 to replace the orifices on our
grill, so, rather than buy a new grill, we converted the old one from LP
to
natural.

Same burner. New orifices.

It burns a HELL of a lot hotter on NG than it ever did on LP.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

This has nothing to do with which is hotter but rather a potential safety
issue. In 2000 we had the flexible connection line fail on our propane GG
and turned the tank into a huge blow torch that proceeded to burn off the
back of the house because there was no way to extinguish the propane tank
till it burned itself empty. That wouldn't of happened had I had a gas shut
off as I do now with our natural gas grill. That's why I'll never own a
propane grill again.

In article t, "tom" wrote:

This has nothing to do with which is hotter but rather a potential safety
issue. In 2000 we had the flexible connection line fail on our propane GG
and turned the tank into a huge blow torch that proceeded to burn off the
back of the house because there was no way to extinguish the propane tank
till it burned itself empty. That wouldn't of happened had I had a gas shut
off as I do now with our natural gas grill. That's why I'll never own a
propane grill again.

Wow.

That wasn't an issue for us. Since the house was heated with LP, I just
installed a line out on to the deck, and ran the grill off the house supply. I
had a shutoff right where the line exited the house (15' away from the grill),
another shutoff inside the house, and of course a main shutoff at the tank.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken line
burnt your house?

--
Steve Barker




"tom" wrote in message
k.net...

This has nothing to do with which is hotter but rather a potential safety
issue. In 2000 we had the flexible connection line fail on our propane GG
and turned the tank into a huge blow torch that proceeded to burn off the
back of the house because there was no way to extinguish the propane tank
till it burned itself empty. That wouldn't of happened had I had a gas
shut
off as I do now with our natural gas grill. That's why I'll never own a
propane grill again.

"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken
line burnt your house?

--
Steve Barker

I can't imagine getting near it if it was shooting out full blast. I think
the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:05:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Steve Barker" wrote in message
m...
Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken
line burnt your house?

--
Steve Barker

I can't imagine getting near it if it was shooting out full blast. I think

Me neither. A garden hose couldn't have put out the flame, probably,
but it might have kept the house from burning. But maybe he did do
that and if not, it's easy to think of those things now.

the new tanks with the OPD would shut off themselves in that condition.

Really?

"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
Did you consider turning off the tank valve whilst this alleged broken
line
burnt your house?

--
Steve Barker




"tom" wrote in message
k.net...

This has nothing to do with which is hotter but rather a potential
safety
issue. In 2000 we had the flexible connection line fail on our propane
GG
and turned the tank into a huge blow torch that proceeded to burn off
the
back of the house because there was no way to extinguish the propane
tank
till it burned itself empty. That wouldn't of happened had I had a gas
shut
off as I do now with our natural gas grill. That's why I'll never own a
propane grill again.



The 20 lb. tank that caught fire also had a shut-off but with it spewing an
8 ft flame neither myself or the firemen were able to approach it to turn it
off.

On 25 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0800, "
wrote:

Theres a discussion on alt.home repair, about convertiung natural gas
grills to propane. My experience is the propane contains more BTUs and
seers steaks better.

A good friend works at sears and reports they hate selling natural gas
grills, since so many get returned with not hot enough complaints.

So I would appreciate the experts here at the barbecue group to give
us their opinions.

my opinion is that even with different orfices propane will be hotter
thn natural gas.....
The difference in pressure has been brought up. Because of the lower
pressure, NG requires a larger supply line. And the longer the run,
the larger it needs.

--Andy Asberry--
------Texas-----