You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

On 24 Jan 2007 19:42:55 -0800, javawizard wrote:

You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

I read it on the Internet so it must be true!!

"javawizard" wrote in news:1169696574.970310.219780
@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com


From your link:

"There is a bird in Antarctica that repels threatening animals in unique
ways. The bird throws up in the enemy's face. If that doesn't work, it
blows snot at them with enough force to bowl a human over."


Sounds like a drunk on a DWI stop.

Karl S wrote:
On 24 Jan 2007 19:42:55 -0800, javawizard wrote:

You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

I read it on the Internet so it must be true!!


There's just a /little/ bit of truth to it. It's an old law that has to do
with *fencing* pliers that can be used to cut barbed wire. I think you
can't have fence pliers in your saddle bag unless you are on your own
property. The law was probably used occasionally to prosecute cattle
rustlers. The modern day equivalent would be "possession of burglary
tools" (whatever that means).

Best regards,
Bob

javawizard wrote:
You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

The word "pliers" does not occur in the Texas Penal Code nor the combined
Texas Statutes.

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/...d&CQ_LOGIN=YES

Under the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, however, we do have a defense of
justifiable homicide entitled: "But yer honer, he NEEDED killin' ".

On Jan 25, 10:06 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
javawizard wrote:
You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

The word "pliers" does not occur in the Texas Penal Code nor the combined Texas Statutes.
....

Unlikely the actual term used was "pliers" but probably more generic
description that may have included "wire cutter" or something similar.

Someone else noted the purpose was against cattle-rustling and equated
it to being similar to modern prohibitions against "burglary tools".
While part of the problem, more commonly the actual problem was one of
cutting fences for either access to water or moving cattle across
historically open range in the days of the "range wars" when free range
was being replaced by fenced ranges and farming. There was a lot that
was simply done to destroy the fences in an effort to drive farm
homesteaders and settlers from grazing areas.

the whole list at that url is mostly bull****.

--
Steve Barker



"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
javawizard wrote:
You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

The word "pliers" does not occur in the Texas Penal Code nor the combined
Texas Statutes.

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/...d&CQ_LOGIN=YES

Under the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, however, we do have a defense
of justifiable homicide entitled: "But yer honer, he NEEDED killin' ".

On 25 Jan 2007 08:30:26 -0800, "dpb" wrote:



On Jan 25, 10:06 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
javawizard wrote:
You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

The word "pliers" does not occur in the Texas Penal Code nor the combined Texas Statutes.
...

Unlikely the actual term used was "pliers" but probably more generic
description that may have included "wire cutter" or something similar.

Someone else noted the purpose was against cattle-rustling and equated
it to being similar to modern prohibitions against "burglary tools".
While part of the problem, more commonly the actual problem was one of
cutting fences for either access to water or moving cattle across
historically open range in the days of the "range wars" when free range

This was the start of the wars between the free range chickens and the
gas range chickens.

Or the wars between the free range eggs and the electric skillet eggs.
I can never remember if the chicken or egg wars came first.

was being replaced by fenced ranges and farming. There was a lot that
was simply done to destroy the fences in an effort to drive farm
homesteaders and settlers from grazing areas.

On Jan 26, 12:48 am, mm wrote:
On 25 Jan 2007 08:30:26 -0800, "dpb" wrote:

....
... more commonly the actual problem was one of
cutting fences for either access to water or moving cattle across
historically open range in the days of the "range wars" ...

This was the start of the wars between the free range chickens and the
gas range chickens.

Or the wars between the free range eggs and the electric skillet eggs.
I can never remember if the chicken or egg wars came first.
....

I like it...

For anybody who is interested I found a brief summary of the range wars
under the title of "Sheep Wars" at

A little background and the section pertinent to this thread follow--

"The so-called sheep wars, conflicts between cattlemen and sheepmen
over grazing rights, took place particularly between the early 1870s
and 1900. Fundamental differences between sheep and cattle meant that
they required different amounts of water, different types of food, and
different manners of herding. Differences in life and equipment of the
cowboy on horseback and the sheepherder on a burro or afoot also made
for antagonisms. The cattleman had priority of establishment in most
areas of Texas and resented encroachment of the sheepman on his domain.
The cattleman was the more aggressive of the antagonists. His methods
of attempting to drive out his rival ranged from intimidation to
violence, directed at both the sheepman and his flock. Nomadic sheepmen
or drifters were attacked by both cattlemen and settled sheepmen
because of their twisting or rolling of fences to allow passage of
their flocks ..."

"After the law of 1884, which made fence-cutting a felony and abolished
the open range, both the cattleman and the sheepman confined their
herds to their own land, and the sheep wars came to an end. Despite the
occasional fights between sheepherders and cattlemen in Texas, the
level of violence never reached that of some other Western states. ..."

BIBLIOGRAPHY: Paul H. Carlson, Texas Woolybacks: The Range Sheep and
Goat Industry (College Station: Texas A&M University Press, 1982).
Wayne Gard, "The Fence-Cutters," Southwestern Historical Quarterly 51
(July 1947). ...

"HeyBub" wrote:

javawizard wrote:
You may not legally own a pair of pliers if you live in
Texas.Fortunately, this law is not often enforced. - from
www.odd-info.com

The word "pliers" does not occur in the Texas Penal Code nor the combined
Texas Statutes.

The Texas Penal Code was rewritten (totally, I think) in the 70's. If the law
ever existed, it probably got dropped in the rewrite.

Under the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, however, we do have a defense of
justifiable homicide entitled: "But yer honer, he NEEDED killin' ".

Unfortunately, this got dropped at the same time. When Texas was mostly small
town and rural, if he needed killin', the entire jury pool knew it. They
couldn't have gotten a conviction anyway.

"Homicide, n. The slaying of one human being by another. There are four kinds of
homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and praiseworthy, but it makes no
great difference to the person slain whether he fell by one kind or another—the
classification is for the advantage of lawyers."
Ambrose Bierce, The Devils Dictionary.



-- Doug

Steve Barker wrote:
the whole list at that url is mostly bull****.

What do you expect from a spammer? He posts trivia and slyly inserts
his advertising as part of a trivia list.

A "life coach" that uses subterfuge to attract people. It takes all
types...

R