I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently have
1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had padding
so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4" cable
protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down with no
padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be the best
way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers plan to use
a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem with that is that
I still have to get the cable to the inside of the doorway (we currently
don't use a door here. I was thinking about cutting a channel into the
concrete floor and either use a conduit or the cable protector. I have
pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve

"Steve" wrote in message
ng.com...
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently
have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had
padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4"
cable protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down
with no padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be
the best way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers
plan to use a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem
with that is that I still have to get the cable to the inside of the
doorway (we currently don't use a door here. I was thinking about cutting
a channel into the concrete floor and either use a conduit or the cable
protector. I have pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/

Cutting concrete, vs. extending the cables enough to run them in ceiling
where they should have been in the first place? Snaking through drywall, or
even slicing/patching a stud cavity, is much easier than breaking the floor.
If the walls a masonry or clay tile, just hide the cable risers in a shelf
unit.

BTW, assuming that is a 2'-6" door, that looks like 9" tile. With that size
and that color pattern, it is quite possibly of a vintage likely to have
asbestos in it. Late 50s- early 60s, right?

aem sends...

Yes, I've been told that the tiles are probably asbestos. I only removed
what is in the way. I used a spackle knife and pryed them up. They came up
pretty easily.

I don't see the ceiling is an option here.

wrote in message
...

"Steve" wrote in message
ng.com...
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently
have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had
padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4"
cable protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down
with no padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be
the best way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers
plan to use a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem
with that is that I still have to get the cable to the inside of the
doorway (we currently don't use a door here. I was thinking about
cutting a channel into the concrete floor and either use a conduit or the
cable protector. I have pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/

Cutting concrete, vs. extending the cables enough to run them in ceiling
where they should have been in the first place? Snaking through drywall,
or even slicing/patching a stud cavity, is much easier than breaking the
floor. If the walls a masonry or clay tile, just hide the cable risers in
a shelf unit.

BTW, assuming that is a 2'-6" door, that looks like 9" tile. With that
size and that color pattern, it is quite possibly of a vintage likely to
have asbestos in it. Late 50s- early 60s, right?

aem sends...

Steve wrote:
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I
currently have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The
old carpet had padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and
ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4" cable protector across the doorway. The new
carpet will be glued down with no padding. The other room will not
be carpeted yet. What would be the best way to get the cable across
the door? Right now the installers plan to use a raised molding that
I put the cable inside. The problem with that is that I still have
to get the cable to the inside of the doorway (we currently don't use
a door here. I was thinking about cutting a channel into the
concrete floor and either use a conduit or the cable protector. I
have pictures of the doorway he http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve

While I would suggest the wall or the ceiling would be preferred, you
could put in a threshold and put it under that.

You are speaking ONLY of speaker wire, right?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 02:10:23 -0500, "Steve" wrote:

Yes, I've been told that the tiles are probably asbestos. I only removed
what is in the way. I used a spackle knife and pryed them up. They came up
pretty easily.

IMHO:

I'm not an asbestos expert, and don't suggest working with asbestos
yourself. However, if these tiles are 'safe' or you can be 'safe' I
recommend a hot air gun. You might find the tiles come up so easy,
you might remove them all.

later,

tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com





I don't see the ceiling is an option here.

wrote in message
...

"Steve" wrote in message
ng.com...
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently
have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had
padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4"
cable protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down
with no padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be
the best way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers
plan to use a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem
with that is that I still have to get the cable to the inside of the
doorway (we currently don't use a door here. I was thinking about
cutting a channel into the concrete floor and either use a conduit or the
cable protector. I have pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/

Cutting concrete, vs. extending the cables enough to run them in ceiling
where they should have been in the first place? Snaking through drywall,
or even slicing/patching a stud cavity, is much easier than breaking the
floor. If the walls a masonry or clay tile, just hide the cable risers in
a shelf unit.

BTW, assuming that is a 2'-6" door, that looks like 9" tile. With that
size and that color pattern, it is quite possibly of a vintage likely to
have asbestos in it. Late 50s- early 60s, right?

aem sends...

Tom The Great wrote:
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 02:10:23 -0500, "Steve" wrote:

Yes, I've been told that the tiles are probably asbestos. I only removed
what is in the way. I used a spackle knife and pryed them up. They came up
pretty easily.

IMHO:

I'm not an asbestos expert, and don't suggest working with asbestos
yourself. However, if these tiles are 'safe' or you can be 'safe' I
recommend a hot air gun. You might find the tiles come up so easy,
you might remove them all.

later,

tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com



For the door, I think Joseph's threshold idea sounds easy. Doors
frequently have thresholds anyway, so I think it would look OK. You
could cut/chisel out a channel in the bottom of the threshold, or use
one that is hollow.

Regarding the asbestos tiles, before I put the new floor down, I'd
investigate what the real estate disclosure laws require you to say
about asbestos tiles on a future sale. Some states have a disclosure
form that asks specific questions that you need to fill out. I'd want
to know what your obligation in that area is. If, for example, it
asks, "Does the home have any form of asbestos?", then if it were me,
I'd get them taken out now, as it's fairly easy and avoids any future
issues.

Hi Joseph,

As I mentioned, I'm running 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables.

Steve


"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I
currently have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The
old carpet had padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and
ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4" cable protector across the doorway. The new
carpet will be glued down with no padding. The other room will not
be carpeted yet. What would be the best way to get the cable across
the door? Right now the installers plan to use a raised molding that
I put the cable inside. The problem with that is that I still have
to get the cable to the inside of the doorway (we currently don't use
a door here. I was thinking about cutting a channel into the
concrete floor and either use a conduit or the cable protector. I
have pictures of the doorway he http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve

While I would suggest the wall or the ceiling would be preferred, you
could put in a threshold and put it under that.

You are speaking ONLY of speaker wire, right?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Tom The Great wrote:
IMHO:

I'm not an asbestos expert, and don't suggest working with asbestos
yourself. However, if these tiles are 'safe' or you can be 'safe' I
recommend a hot air gun. You might find the tiles come up so easy,
you might remove them all.

later,

tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com
---------------------------------------
Instead of a hot air gun, I suggest the safer venue of placing a towel
on the target tile and then applying a hot iron to the towel for a few
seconds, just as if you're ironing a shirt. The tiles peel right off.

wrote:
on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Is floor tile an asbestos problem. That stuff is 'encapsulated' unless
you break up the tiles in little bitty pieces and pound them to powder.
Looks to me like they would be the same category as cement/asbestos
siding. Not a 'professional removal' requirement.

Harry K

wrote:
on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Is floor tile an asbestos problem? That stuff is 'encapsulated' unless
you break up the tiles in little bitty pieces and pound them to powder.
Looks to me like they would be the same category as cement/asbestos
siding. Not a 'professional removal' requirement.

Harry K

Harry K wrote:
wrote:
on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Is floor tile an asbestos problem? That stuff is 'encapsulated' unless
you break up the tiles in little bitty pieces and pound them to powder.
Looks to me like they would be the same category as cement/asbestos
siding. Not a 'professional removal' requirement.

Harry K

Is it a problem? Yes and no. That's why I suggested he look into his
local disclosure requirements for real estate sales. If it were my
home and I intended to never sell it, I wouldn't care if asbestos tile
was covered over with some other material and left there. And I
agree, using correct technique and removal methods, it doesn't require
professional removal, at least in most jurisdictions.

However, if I thought I would eventually sell the house and asbestos
floor tile that has been covered over does have to be disclosed in his
area, then I think I would probably remove it now, just to avoid any
issues later. For example, you have a buyer that has offered a very
good price, but wants a reduction because of the asbestos. Plus if it
is a disclosure item, many buyers will offer less or move choose a
similar house with no asbestos.

Steve wrote:
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently have
1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had padding
so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4" cable
protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down with no
padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be the best
way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers plan to use
a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem with that is that
I still have to get the cable to the inside of the doorway (we currently
don't use a door here. I was thinking about cutting a channel into the
concrete floor and either use a conduit or the cable protector. I have
pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve

If ceiling is not an option, how about going around door - up across and
down with wires concealed in plastic raceway, similar to what you are
now using.

I think I'm going to do just that except I'm removing the "molding" around
the door in the opposite room. I just have to cut some sheetrock away to
make room for all the cables then stuff the cables in the gaps.


"Bennett Price" wrote in message
t...


Steve wrote:
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently
have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had
padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4"
cable protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down
with no padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be
the best way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers
plan to use a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem
with that is that I still have to get the cable to the inside of the
doorway (we currently don't use a door here. I was thinking about
cutting a channel into the concrete floor and either use a conduit or the
cable protector. I have pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve If ceiling is not an option, how about going around door - up
across and
down with wires concealed in plastic raceway, similar to what you are now
using.

"Steve" wrote in message
g.com...
I think I'm going to do just that except I'm removing the "molding" around
the door in the opposite room. I just have to cut some sheetrock away to
make room for all the cables then stuff the cables in the gaps.


Just remember to avoid tight turns and do not kink the coax. Quick turns can
degrade the signal on cable. Some suggest using a CD to gauge the turns.
Running the coax thru the doorway and keeping the turns gradual may be
challenging.

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 14:43:01 -0500, "jolt" wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
ng.com...
I think I'm going to do just that except I'm removing the "molding" around
the door in the opposite room. I just have to cut some sheetrock away to
make room for all the cables then stuff the cables in the gaps.


Just remember to avoid tight turns and do not kink the coax. Quick turns can
degrade the signal on cable. Some suggest using a CD to gauge the turns.
Running the coax thru the doorway and keeping the turns gradual may be
challenging.


Excellent point. Even fiber optic cables have limits on a bend radius.

--
Oren

"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 08:35:43 -0500, Tom The Great
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 02:10:23 -0500, "Steve" wrote:

Yes, I've been told that the tiles are probably asbestos. I only removed
what is in the way. I used a spackle knife and pryed them up. They came up
pretty easily.

IMHO:

I'm not an asbestos expert, and don't suggest working with asbestos
yourself. However, if these tiles are 'safe' or you can be 'safe' I
recommend a hot air gun. You might find the tiles come up so easy,
you might remove them all.

later,

tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com





I don't see the ceiling is an option here.

wrote in message
...

"Steve" wrote in message
ng.com...
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I currently
have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The old carpet had
padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4"
cable protector across the doorway. The new carpet will be glued down
with no padding. The other room will not be carpeted yet. What would be
the best way to get the cable across the door? Right now the installers
plan to use a raised molding that I put the cable inside. The problem
with that is that I still have to get the cable to the inside of the
doorway (we currently don't use a door here. I was thinking about
cutting a channel into the concrete floor and either use a conduit or the
cable protector. I have pictures of the doorway he
http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/

Cutting concrete, vs. extending the cables enough to run them in ceiling
where they should have been in the first place? Snaking through drywall,
or even slicing/patching a stud cavity, is much easier than breaking the
floor. If the walls a masonry or clay tile, just hide the cable risers in
a shelf unit.

BTW, assuming that is a 2'-6" door, that looks like 9" tile. With that
size and that color pattern, it is quite possibly of a vintage likely to
have asbestos in it. Late 50s- early 60s, right?

aem sends...



Here we go again......
Asbestos in tile is NOT dangerous unless you sand or grind them.
The asbestos particles are embedded in the tile and wont get into your
lungs.

As far as running that cable, go thru the wall or find another route.
Chiselling out concrete, etc. is reduculous.
Another option would be to get some Wiremold channel, attach that to
the wall, and run it thru that. You can paint the channel to match
the walls. One other thing that oculd be used is those rubber floor
strips they use in offices to run computer cables. It just sticks to
the floor and the cables are under it.

On 3 Dec 2006 07:08:12 -0800, "
wrote:

on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Yeah, if you are stupid enough to dish out that kind of money for no
reason......

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:01:49 -0500, "Steve" wrote:

Hi Joseph,

As I mentioned, I'm running 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables.

Steve


Yep, use wiremold if you cant snake it thru the walls.


"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
.. .
Steve wrote:
I'm having my basement re-carpeted. I have a doorway that I
currently have 1 speaker wire and 2 CATV cables running across. The
old carpet had padding so I just cut a channel into the padding and
ran a 1/4" x 1-1/4" cable protector across the doorway. The new
carpet will be glued down with no padding. The other room will not
be carpeted yet. What would be the best way to get the cable across
the door? Right now the installers plan to use a raised molding that
I put the cable inside. The problem with that is that I still have
to get the cable to the inside of the doorway (we currently don't use
a door here. I was thinking about cutting a channel into the
concrete floor and either use a conduit or the cable protector. I
have pictures of the doorway he http://www.sjfphoto.com/newcarpet/


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve

While I would suggest the wall or the ceiling would be preferred, you
could put in a threshold and put it under that.

You are speaking ONLY of speaker wire, right?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

wrote:
on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

It has to be disclosed ONLY IF you know it is asbestos.

Ignorance is bliss.

Not to mention, you'd have to grind and breathe them daily for 20+ years
before there MIGHT be a chance you'd demonstrate symptoms in another 20
years after that. It's such a bunch of bull**** the government has put upon
the public it's not even funny.

--
Steve Barker



wrote in message
...
Here we go again......
Asbestos in tile is NOT dangerous unless you sand or grind them.
The asbestos particles are embedded in the tile and wont get into your
lungs.

wrote:
On 3 Dec 2006 07:08:12 -0800, "
wrote:

on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Yeah, if you are stupid enough to dish out that kind of money for no
reason......-

Ahh you know or suspect its asbestos. You sell your home and dont
disclose it. A year later the new owner stumbles onto the asbestos tile
under another tile floor and mentions it to his neighbor, oh yeah he
mentioned that perhaps 5 years ago, thought it was asbestos., covered
it up

old owner is now getting sued and will lose for professional asbestos
removal for many thousands of dollars let alone his legal costs......
and hassles.

partsexpress.com has a piece of flat, flexible coax for just such a
dilemma.

wrote:
on asbstos removal not just the tile has asbestos often the adhesive
does too

YES this must be disclosed at time of home sale otherwise the next
owner when he sees its asbestos can sue you for professional removal.
at a cost of many thousands of dollars.

Harry K wrote:
Is floor tile an asbestos problem. That stuff is 'encapsulated' unless
you break up the tiles in little bitty pieces and pound them to powder.
Looks to me like they would be the same category as cement/asbestos
siding. Not a 'professional removal' requirement.

Caveat: always check with your state and local government on their laws
regarding asbestos disclosure and abatement.

That being said, in my experience in three states, only friable
asbestos - stuff that can break up easily and get airborne - is of
concern to the government and to your health. It's the breathing in of
asbestos particles that lodge in the lungs that is the danger.

So ceiling tiles, pipe insulation and the like is definitely a health
risk. Floor tiles that contain a mix of asbestos and other substances
pose a much lower risk as long as you don't sand them or break them up
with something that would cause bits to float in the air, like an
electric jackhammer.

Oh, and definitely don't use a heat gun or hair dryer on them as you
may blow around particulate that would otherwise behave itself. I like
the idea of a damp towel and a clothes iron. I'll have to remember that
one.