I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.

On 24 Nov 2006 15:48:25 -0800, "Anthona" wrote:

I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


First. verify that it's really her house.

Then break a basement window.

Anthona wrote:
I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows
were shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the
house through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow
managed to get into your home without the benefit of calling a
locksmith? She finally had to call her son and he worked about 30
miles from home and came back to solve the situation. But what if a
locksmith was not available for one reason or another..holiday or
just closed.

I have come in basement windows a couple of times. They are usually the
easiest way in. Of course you can break a window, or if you are really
good, pick a lock . It might take me many hours to pick a lock, my father
(a locksmith) could do it is seconds.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Anthona wrote:
I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.

Its probably way out of date as an idea , but when I was a kid , a
trusted friend nearby had a spare key. If we got locked out we just
went to see them and got the key.

This was in a time where most Moms stayed home.

I dont like hidden keys , they are usually too easy for a thief to find.

wrote:
On 24 Nov 2006 15:48:25 -0800, "Anthona" wrote:


I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.



Combination lock on the door? I haven't had a house key since the late
60s when I saw my first Simplex lock. My kid never had a key

Putty knife will usually pop open the latch on a double hung window.
BTDT...

nate

--
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

In article .com, "Anthona" wrote:
[...]
But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.

Our previous house had a fenced yard, where we let the family dog (a large and
"protective" Australian Shepherd) run loose whenever we were away.

The spare key was on his collar.

I have an electronic push button lock connected to the garage door (uses
four digit code), good when I am doing yard work etc and need to get into
the garage without going into the house first. As long as you have ac
power, you can get in. I believe I bought it about 15 years ago at Sears
for $29, also have a buried (in a jar) hidden key just in case.

"Anthona" wrote in message
oups.com...
I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.

"Anthona" wrote in
oups.com:

I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


First,how do you KNOW she actually lives there?
I'd be wary of helping a stranger asking for help breaking into "their"
house.


You could keep a key hidden in a garden shed locked by a combination lock.
A man could keep a spare key in his wallet. A woman could keep one on a
neck chain.

Also,if you only use a DEADBOLT lock that must be locked using a key,then
you don't get locked out.
Using doorlocks that latch behind you without any key leads to lockouts.
Deadbolts are better security anyways.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

In article .com,
Anthona wrote:
I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


The best place for the backup key may be with a trusted neighbor
rather than hidden somewhere outside the house.

--
Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland -

In article ,
Doug Miller wrote:
In article .com,
"Anthona" wrote:
[...]
But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.

Our previous house had a fenced yard, where we let the family dog (a large and
"protective" Australian Shepherd) run loose whenever we were away.

The spare key was on his collar.

That reminds me of the rough neihborhood I used to live in. There was
a very small-statured woman, under 5 ft tall, who sometimes walked
her great dane on my block. Instead of carrying her purse on her own
shoulder, she put the purse straps around the dog's neck.


--
Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland -

"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article .com, "Anthona" wrote:
[...]

But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


Our previous house had a fenced yard, where we let the family dog (a large and
"protective" Australian Shepherd) run loose whenever we were away.

The spare key was on his collar.

That's how we have always done it!

Rob

wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Anthona wrote:
I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


The best place for the backup key may be with a trusted neighbor
rather than hidden somewhere outside the house.

How many people even KNOW their neighbors, these days?

aem sends...

I've been a locksmith for 21 years. I'm sure not gonna tell you and
the rest of the world how to break into houses.

How dare you ask such an absurd thing!

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Anthona" wrote in message
oups.com...
I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows
were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.

Brilliant!

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
m...

Our previous house had a fenced yard, where we let the family dog (a
large and
"protective" Australian Shepherd) run loose whenever we were away.

The spare key was on his collar.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Brilliant!

How so? Shoot the dog, now you're in!

have a friend who got locked out once, he cemented a stub of
galavanized pipe into a wall under his porch, hid the key inide the
pipe and screwed on a cap. i seriously doubt anyone would think of
that.

When I lived alone I had a spare key taped to the wiring just inside my
pole light. screwdriver outside, loosened one screw, removed top got
key used that once, neighbor walked up and noted so thats where you
hide your key

I have taped spare car key to wiring harness under car. inconveient but
secure access.

On 25 Nov 2006 05:17:10 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:

"Anthona" wrote in
roups.com:

I was visiting my niece for thanksgiving day and today ( friday ) a
woman across the street had locked herself out of her home. She came
across to us to ask for help. She had no backup key around the area,
her son was working for the day, and obviously could not get into her
home. We suggested that she call a locksmith, but for some reason she
hesitated..probably the cost..I told her she should have a secret spot
for a backkup key in the event like this would happen. All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith? She
finally had to call her son and he worked about 30 miles from home and
came back to solve the situation. But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


First,how do you KNOW she actually lives there?
I'd be wary of helping a stranger asking for help breaking into "their"
house.


You could keep a key hidden in a garden shed locked by a combination lock.
A man could keep a spare key in his wallet. A woman could keep one on a
neck chain.

Also,if you only use a DEADBOLT lock that must be locked using a key,then
you don't get locked out.
Using doorlocks that latch behind you without any key leads to lockouts.

Yes. That's one advantage of deadbolts. You can't lock yourself out
that easily.

Deadbolts are better security anyways.
--
30 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.



The more unusual, the more secure. This is one of those situations
where the LEAST popular place is better.
--
30 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.



Put a key in a baggie and bury it in the yard.

Doug Miller wrote:

In article .com, "Anthona" wrote:
[...]

But what if a locksmith was not
available for one reason or another..holiday or just closed.


Our previous house had a fenced yard, where we let the family dog (a large and
"protective" Australian Shepherd) run loose whenever we were away.

The spare key was on his collar.


THATS GREAT!

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:18:48 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Brilliant!

How so? Shoot the dog, now you're in!

If they're willing to shoot the dog,
they're willing to break a window.

And that all assumes that whoever's
robbing your house reads the newsgroup
where you're bragging how you secure it.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.



The more unusual, the more secure. This is one of those situations
where the LEAST popular place is better.

Although the fake rock is an excellent place to hide
an exploding dye pack...

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.



The more unusual, the more secure. This is one of those situations
where the LEAST popular place is better.

Although the fake rock is an excellent place to hide
an exploding dye pack...

I *like* it!

--
Keith

I think it was " who stated:

have a friend who got locked out once, he cemented a stub of
galavanized pipe into a wall under his porch, hid the key inide the
pipe and screwed on a cap. i seriously doubt anyone would think of
that.

Deadbolt.

Problem solved.




-Don (CAN'T lock hisself outta his house anymore!)
--
"What do *you* care what other people think?" --Arline Feynman

Goedjn wrote in
:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the
house through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and
somehow managed to get into your home without the benefit of
calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are
safe places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those
stupid fake rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under
a deck, behind a shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree,
birdhouse, etc. In her case, it could have been in the locked garage
since she had an opener. You just have to use a little ingenuity.



The more unusual, the more secure. This is one of those situations
where the LEAST popular place is better.

Although the fake rock is an excellent place to hide
an exploding dye pack...



where does one buy those?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Goedjn wrote in
news
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:18:48 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Brilliant!

How so? Shoot the dog, now you're in!

If they're willing to shoot the dog,
they're willing to break a window.

And that all assumes that whoever's
robbing your house reads the newsgroup
where you're bragging how you secure it.




Shooting guns in residential areas draws a lot of attention.
Also,one shot does not always put down a dog on the spot.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

In article om, " wrote:
have a friend who got locked out once, he cemented a stub of
galavanized pipe into a wall under his porch, hid the key inide the
pipe and screwed on a cap. i seriously doubt anyone would think of
that.

Well, they wouldn't have... until now...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article ,
Goedjn wrote:

Although the fake rock is an excellent place to hide
an exploding dye pack...

You don't need the dye, use a stick of 60% and you can read in the
newspaper who it was

--
Free men own guns - www.geocities/CapitolHill/5357/ (add .com after geocities)

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:24:28 -0600, GWB wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.



Put a key in a baggie and bury it in the yard.

In the bottom of an old rusty bucket full of horse manure.
--
30 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:04:40 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:24:28 -0600, GWB wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:01:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Anthona" wrote in

All windows were
shut, garage door remote she had, but there is no access to the house
through the garage. Has anyone faced this problem and somehow managed
to get into your home without the benefit of calling a locksmith?

I've had the problem a couple of times over the years. There are safe
places where a key can be hidden outside. I don't mean those stupid fake
rocks though. They can be out of site in a shed, under a deck, behind a
shutter, under a fence post cap, on a tree, birdhouse, etc. In her case, it
could have been in the locked garage since she had an opener. You just have
to use a little ingenuity.



Put a key in a baggie and bury it in the yard.

In the bottom of an old rusty bucket full of horse manure.

That's the first place they look. G

Just walk into the bank with a handgun and yell "put all your money in
this big, dark bag that I can't see what you're putting into the bag,
and I'll turn and look the other way now, tell me when it's done".

They will give you one for free.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
.. .

Although the fake rock is an excellent place to hide
an exploding dye pack...



where does one buy those?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

That's how I get lockout business. I take the key out of the rusty
bucket of horse manure, and replace it with my business card "Lockout
service of...."

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"GWB" wrote in message
...
Put a key in a baggie and bury it in the yard.

In the bottom of an old rusty bucket full of horse manure.

That's the first place they look. G

Doug Miller wrote:
In article om, " wrote:
have a friend who got locked out once, he cemented a stub of
galavanized pipe into a wall under his porch, hid the key inide the
pipe and screwed on a cap. i seriously doubt anyone would think of
that.

Well, they wouldn't have... until now...

--

people nationwide looking for abandoned pipes trying to unscrew caps.

one may gas them or shoot them with compressed gasses or water

clue hide your house key at the neighbors, they can do the same.

anyone finding the key wouldnt be able to get in

(Doug Miller) wrote in
om:

In article om,
" wrote:
have a friend who got locked out once, he cemented a stub of
galavanized pipe into a wall under his porch, hid the key inide the
pipe and screwed on a cap. i seriously doubt anyone would think of
that.

Well, they wouldn't have... until now...


I hope the cap does not rust on the stub. ;-)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

If you want to be evil, hide a bunch of keys in lots of obvious and
non-obvious places.. Only you know which key actually works in your
locks.. The rest are similar (same brand, same keyway), and fit into,
but will not operate the locks. If you have had your locks rekeyed, use
the old keys, or ask your local locksmith for some mis-cut keys..



--
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Bob Vaughan | techie @ tantivy.net |
| P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 |
-- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? --

Jim Yanik wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
om:


In article om,
" wrote:

have a friend who got locked out once, he cemented a stub of
galavanized pipe into a wall under his porch, hid the key inide the
pipe and screwed on a cap. i seriously doubt anyone would think of
that.

Well, they wouldn't have... until now...



I hope the cap does not rust on the stub. ;-)


If one has a pipe wrench, it's just as easy to use it on the doorknob :/

nate

--
replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC),
(Bob Vaughan) wrote:

If you want to be evil, hide a bunch of keys in lots of obvious and
non-obvious places.. Only you know which key actually works in your
locks.. The rest are similar (same brand, same keyway), and fit into,
but will not operate the locks. If you have had your locks rekeyed, use
the old keys, or ask your local locksmith for some mis-cut keys..

How about labeling the key you use with a nonexistent address in
another state?

One thing I heard a few years ago was to put a note on your door. One
that appears to be written to a family member warning of the poisonous
south American snakes loose inside (the real family members know you
don't have any snakes).
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Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

In article ,
(Bob Vaughan) wrote:

If you want to be evil, hide a bunch of keys in lots of obvious and
non-obvious places.. Only you know which key actually works in your
locks.. The rest are similar (same brand, same keyway), and fit into,
but will not operate the locks. If you have had your locks rekeyed, use
the old keys, or ask your local locksmith for some mis-cut keys..

If you want to be really evil, have the key actually operate the lock on
a fake door. A surprise is behind the fake door....

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In article , Nate Nagel wrote:

If one has a pipe wrench, it's just as easy to use it on the doorknob :/

Easier still on a window...

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.