I bought a paraffin bath (good for aching parts) and want to know how
much it costs to run, let's say, per hour +-.

Called the local elec co, but lady said she couldn't give a figure by
the hour, only in KWH. Also depends on whether I want to keep it on
all the time, or shut on & off.

But my decision (on or on&off) depends on the relative costs.

Chicken - egg?

Anybody have an approximation?

Appliance is 120 volt, 100 watt. It has a setting to heat up the
paraffin, another setting to maintain operating temp., and another
setting for "solid" (what's the point of that one?)

TIA

Aspasia

If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents.
So you are looking at about a dime or a quarter per day to run it full
time.

-Kevin

aspasia wrote:
I bought a paraffin bath (good for aching parts) and want to know how
much it costs to run, let's say, per hour +-.

Called the local elec co, but lady said she couldn't give a figure by
the hour, only in KWH. Also depends on whether I want to keep it on
all the time, or shut on & off.

But my decision (on or on&off) depends on the relative costs.

Chicken - egg?

Anybody have an approximation?

Appliance is 120 volt, 100 watt. It has a setting to heat up the
paraffin, another setting to maintain operating temp., and another
setting for "solid" (what's the point of that one?)

TIA

Aspasia

"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus tax
--
Peace,
BobJ



So you are looking at about a dime or a quarter per day to run it full
time.

-Kevin

aspasia wrote:
I bought a paraffin bath (good for aching parts) and want to know how
much it costs to run, let's say, per hour +-.

Called the local elec co, but lady said she couldn't give a figure by
the hour, only in KWH. Also depends on whether I want to keep it on
all the time, or shut on & off.

But my decision (on or on&off) depends on the relative costs.

Chicken - egg?

Anybody have an approximation?

Appliance is 120 volt, 100 watt. It has a setting to heat up the
paraffin, another setting to maintain operating temp., and another
setting for "solid" (what's the point of that one?)

TIA

Aspasia

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:18:06 GMT, Marilyn & Bob wrote:



"kevin" wrote in message
roups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus tax

Here in Scottsdale AZ, it's 9 cents/KWH. It's actually split between 3.9
cents/KWH for "delivery" and 5.2 cents/KWH "energy". Plus, of course, a
$10 monthly service charge and another 7.5% for taxes.

"Marilyn & Bob" wrote in
news:2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07:


"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest
setting), it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is
probably half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your
electric bill to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around
5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus
tax


NC: 8.5 - 9cents

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"Marilyn & Bob" wrote in
news:2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07:


"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest
setting), it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is
probably half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your
electric bill to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around
5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus
tax


NC: 8.5 - 9cents

Tucson 10 cents for commercial, 9 for residential in summer, 8 in winter.

Al

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:49:05 -0600, Al Bundy
wrote:

"Marilyn & Bob" wrote in
news:2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07:


"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest
setting), it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is
probably half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your
electric bill to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around
5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus
tax


NC: 8.5 - 9cents


So. Calif has a low income rate of 11.8 cents/KWH. Regular would be
20% more. *

I also learned something that may be of interest to others.

When elec co. heard that I was using paraffin bath for accident
injuries (recommended by therapist) they said there is a "medical
baseline" rate which gives extra advantage. Have to make out an app.
& have doctor sign.

I'd much rather NOT have the injuries and not have the paraffin bath!

But, as I said above, this may be of interest to others who are using
an appliance for medical reasons and don't know -- as I did not know
-- that there can be a special "baseline" in such cases.

*(Utilities have always been high in So.Calif. But special thanks must
go to Bush's Enron and other energy crook friends who were caught on
tape joking about shafting "Grandma Millie"" during the artificial
energy crisis in Calif a few years ago that was engineered right out
of the White House for the benefit of its great friends and
contributors. Suddenly plants were taken off line for "maintenance"
-- hmmm...what a coincidence. Law of supply and demand kicks in.
Also anybody can check out the precipitous drop in natural gas rates
when El Paso's monopoly ended.)

aspasia wrote:

*(Utilities have always been high in So.Calif. But special thanks must
go to Bush's Enron and other energy crook friends who were caught on
tape joking about shafting "Grandma Millie"" during the artificial
energy crisis in Calif a few years ago that was engineered right out
of the White House for the benefit of its great friends and
contributors. Suddenly plants were taken off line for "maintenance"
-- hmmm...what a coincidence. Law of supply and demand kicks in.
Also anybody can check out the precipitous drop in natural gas rates
when El Paso's monopoly ended.)

The White House did not pass laws in California regulating power generation
prices nor did the White House lock in elevated rates on the futures market.
Nor did the White House prevent energy companies from building new power
plants in the state.

You can't blame the energy companies when California bent over and said
"Screw me!"

P.T. Barnum said: "Never let a sucker keep his money." It's the American
way.

aspasia wrote:

SNIPS


*(Utilities have always been high in So.Calif. But special thanks must
go to Bush's Enron and other energy crook friends who were caught on
tape joking about shafting "Grandma Millie"" during the artificial
energy crisis in Calif a few years ago that was engineered right out
of the White House for the benefit of its great friends and
contributors. Suddenly plants were taken off line for "maintenance"
-- hmmm...what a coincidence. Law of supply and demand kicks in.
Also anybody can check out the precipitous drop in natural gas rates
when El Paso's monopoly ended.)



In the interest of honesty, a value sadly lacking in each of the major
political parties, please note that the Caifornia energy de regulation
was carried ot by STATE GOVERNMENT, led by Democrat Governor Grey Davis
(remember, he got recalled?) and a STATE LEGISLATURE which had both
houses controlled by Democrats.

While it makes a great urban legend, Bush had nothing to do with the
Enron theft in California.

Bush has a lot else to answer for, but the Enron rape of California
residential rate payors isn't his responsibility.


Don't you just hate it when those pesky facts get in the way?

In article 2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07, se
says...

"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus tax

I certainly don't see anything in here that looks like $.25 per
KWH:

http://www.coned.com/documents/elec/...ment110106.pdf


Here in VT it's about $.12/kWH similar to NYC, from what I can
gather from the above link). I noticed the lowest in the US is KY
at $.044/kWH.

--
Keith

krw wrote in
t:

In article 2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07, se
says...

"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest
setting), it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting
is probably half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on
your electric bill to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably
around 5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plu
s tax

I certainly don't see anything in here that looks like $.25 per
KWH:

http://www.coned.com/documents/elec/...ment110106.pdf


Here in VT it's about $.12/kWH similar to NYC, from what I can
gather from the above link). I noticed the lowest in the US is KY
at $.044/kWH.



Well I'll be....

Where in VT? I lived in Colchester/Essex Jct/Westford over a couple of
decades.

In article , postmaster@
127.0.0.1 says...
krw wrote in
t:

In article 2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07, se
says...

"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest
setting), it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting
is probably half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on
your electric bill to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably
around 5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plu
s tax

I certainly don't see anything in here that looks like $.25 per
KWH:

http://www.coned.com/documents/elec/...ment110106.pdf


Here in VT it's about $.12/kWH similar to NYC, from what I can
gather from the above link). I noticed the lowest in the US is KY
at $.044/kWH.



Well I'll be....

Where in VT? I lived in Colchester/Essex Jct/Westford over a couple of
decades.

Essex Jct. for at least a couple of more months.

--
Keith

krw wrote:

In article 2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07, se
says...

"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents.

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus tax

I certainly don't see anything in here that looks like $.25 per
KWH:

http://www.coned.com/documents/elec/...ment110106.pdf

I'm not the OP but I do live in NYC and buy my electricity from Con
Ed. My October bill was $102.13 for an energy consumption of 480 KWH.
That includes everything, taxes, adjustment factor etc. and works out
to $0.21 per KWH. If I had have consumed less than 258.3 KWH (!) my
rate would have been about 10% higher and of course if I had have
consumed only one KWH the cost per KWH would have been $11.78 g. I
suspect that the rate in the pdf file you quoted "Market Supply
Charge" is the actual cost of electricity not including the delivery
charge (or the delivery charge not including the cost of electricity).

In article ,
says...
krw wrote:

In article 2ER6h.3349$%U.1841@trndny07, se
says...

"kevin" wrote in message
oups.com...
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents..

5-10¢ per KWH? Where do you live? In NYC it's over 25¢ per KWH; plus tax

I certainly don't see anything in here that looks like $.25 per
KWH:

http://www.coned.com/documents/elec/...ment110106.pdf

I'm not the OP but I do live in NYC and buy my electricity from Con
Ed. My October bill was $102.13 for an energy consumption of 480 KWH.
That includes everything, taxes, adjustment factor etc. and works out
to $0.21 per KWH. If I had have consumed less than 258.3 KWH (!) my
rate would have been about 10% higher and of course if I had have
consumed only one KWH the cost per KWH would have been $11.78 g. I
suspect that the rate in the pdf file you quoted "Market Supply
Charge" is the actual cost of electricity not including the delivery
charge (or the delivery charge not including the cost of electricity).

Could be, but I'm pretty sure that was the total. I found other
charges on the Con-Ed site that split the two up. Their site is a
mess though.

--
Keith

kevin wrote:
If it is marked "100 watt" (which is probably for the highest setting),
it uses one tenth of a KWH each hour. The medium setting is probably
half that, so maybe one twentieth of a KWH. Look on your electric bill
to find out how much each KWH costs -- probably around 5 to 10 cents.
So you are looking at about a dime or a quarter per day to run it full
time.

-Kevin

aspasia wrote:

I bought a paraffin bath (good for aching parts) and want to know how
much it costs to run, let's say, per hour +-.

Called the local elec co, but lady said she couldn't give a figure by
the hour, only in KWH. Also depends on whether I want to keep it on
all the time, or shut on & off.

But my decision (on or on&off) depends on the relative costs.

Chicken - egg?

Anybody have an approximation?

Appliance is 120 volt, 100 watt. It has a setting to heat up the
paraffin, another setting to maintain operating temp., and another
setting for "solid" (what's the point of that one?)

TIA

Aspasia



If it uses a thermostat to switch the heater on and off to maintain the
operating temperature you could probably place a box shaped cover over
it when it's not in use, perhaps just some glued up pieces of styrofoam
sheet. That could reduce the heat losses considerably.

However, from the way you describe the switch labeling, there's a good
chance that it doesn't use a thermostat, in which case forget my
suggestion because things might get dangerously hot if the natural heat
losses are reduced.

Jeff

You might

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:55:22 -0800, aspasia wrote:

I bought a paraffin bath (good for aching parts) and want to know how
much it costs to run, let's say, per hour +-.

Called the local elec co, but lady said she couldn't give a figure by
the hour, only in KWH. Also depends on whether I want to keep it on
all the time, or shut on & off.

But my decision (on or on&off) depends on the relative costs.

Chicken - egg?

Anybody have an approximation?

Appliance is 120 volt, 100 watt. It has a setting to heat up the
paraffin, another setting to maintain operating temp., and another
setting for "solid" (what's the point of that one?)

TIA

Aspasia

There must be a label on it somewhere that lists the wattage. Post
the wattage on here and someone can figure it out for you. Otherwise
who knows.

What is this thing for anyhow?
What does "aching parts" mean?