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I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no
standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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wrote in message oups.com... I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. when was the last time you had it checked and serviced?? |
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The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1.
I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Gas filter clogged. Gas injector needs resetting. Gas controller needs calibration. etc. |
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![]() wrote in message ps.com... The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1. I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. |
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![]() Oscar_Lives wrote: wrote in message ps.com... The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1. I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me how to polarize and sync the thermostat or is special equipment required? |
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Hi,
He is trolling. Trouble code is blinking LED thru small glass window. Count the blinks to come up with a code. Like ... . will be 31. Either you have a manual or a sheet with list of code is on the cover panel usually. I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on the furnace either. After more trouble shooting I'm thinking it's the igniter. Usually the first thing you hear is the click-zap sound of the electric igniter. That no longer happens. Can a non-professional like me replace this part or try to service it? |
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On 27 Oct 2006 20:25:42 -0700, wrote:
Hi, He is trolling. Trouble code is blinking LED thru small glass window. Count the blinks to come up with a code. Like ... . will be 31. Either you have a manual or a sheet with list of code is on the cover panel usually. I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on the furnace either. After more trouble shooting I'm thinking it's the igniter. Usually the first thing you hear is the click-zap sound of the electric igniter. That no longer happens. Can a non-professional like me replace this part or try to service it? NO. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote: Hi, He is trolling. Trouble code is blinking LED thru small glass window. Count the blinks to come up with a code. Like ... . will be 31. Either you have a manual or a sheet with list of code is on the cover panel usually. I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on the furnace either. After more trouble shooting I'm thinking it's the igniter. Usually the first thing you hear is the click-zap sound of the electric igniter. That no longer happens. Can a non-professional like me replace this part or try to service it? Hi, If you can see if the module is getting power when it needs to activate. If it gets proper power and nothing happens(no sparksO, then module is a suspect. Problem is the module like that is often non-returnable once you buy it. So unless absolutely sure, it's a gamble. But it's known to fail. Hi, It could be main control logic board as well.(the part which controls the ignitor-probably a relay(mechanical or solid state) |
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![]() "Tony Hwang" wrote in message news:ACA0h.196409$1T2.113410@pd7urf2no... Tony Hwang wrote: wrote: Hi, He is trolling. Trouble code is blinking LED thru small glass window. Count the blinks to come up with a code. Like ... . will be 31. Either you have a manual or a sheet with list of code is on the cover panel usually. I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on the furnace either. After more trouble shooting I'm thinking it's the igniter. Usually the first thing you hear is the click-zap sound of the electric igniter. That no longer happens. Can a non-professional like me replace this part or try to service it? Hi, If you can see if the module is getting power when it needs to activate. If it gets proper power and nothing happens(no sparksO, then module is a suspect. Problem is the module like that is often non-returnable once you buy it. So unless absolutely sure, it's a gamble. But it's known to fail. Hi, It could be main control logic board as well.(the part which controls the ignitor-probably a relay(mechanical or solid state) It could also be one of the many safeties that is keeping the furnace from firing. Sure you don't want to call a tech and get it properly checked and serviced?? |
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![]() "Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:xpz0h.1038154$084.966915@attbi_s22... wrote in message ps.com... The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1. I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in. MLD |
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Polarizing requires a Modulating Current meter. Many VOM have them
now, they call em VOMM, for Volt Ohm Modulating Meter. Sure sounds like your low voltage moduator might be out of synch with the circuit board. I remember the days when you had to manually synch the modulator every time you serviced a unit. That could take as long as an hour, if you had to go through the six or seven cycles of bootup which were required to fine tune the synch. I think Oscar has a more up to date manual than mine, but some new furnace autosynch. Just turn the power switch off for half an hour, and make sure the case of the furnace is properly grounded to drain off the high impedance farrady charge. Of course, Os will provide the specific details, being a helpful fellow as he is. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. wrote in message ups.com... Oscar_Lives wrote: Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me how to polarize and sync the thermostat or is special equipment required? |
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As Steve reminds you, there are many reasons why a furnace would fail
to fire. If you just go replacing parts, it could easily cost more than having the repair guy out. You tried thermostat, and that didn't help. The next part(s) you replace may be both expensive and unnecessary. At this point in time, best to call the repairman. Before the weather gets colder, and the rate schedule goes from "fall" to "winter". -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Noon-Air" wrote in message ... It could also be one of the many safeties that is keeping the furnace from firing. Sure you don't want to call a tech and get it properly checked and serviced?? |
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Ah, the art of internet diagnosis. The answer in general terms is that
people who can do something just go ahead and do it. The fact you're asking tells us that it's beyond your skill level. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. wrote in message ups.com... I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on the furnace either. After more trouble shooting I'm thinking it's the igniter. Usually the first thing you hear is the click-zap sound of the electric igniter. That no longer happens. Can a non-professional like me replace this part or try to service it? |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:19:19 GMT, "MLD" wrote:
"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:xpz0h.1038154$084.966915@attbi_s22... wrote in message ps.com... The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1. I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in. MLD Actually, he IS in the HVAC group, and you can go **** yourself. Learn what a cross-post is. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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![]() wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:19:19 GMT, "MLD" wrote: "Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:xpz0h.1038154$084.966915@attbi_s22... wrote in message ps.com... The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1. I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in. MLD Actually, he IS in the HVAC group, and you can go **** yourself. Learn what a cross-post is. Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was up-to-date with the current validation. Now, what do I do with all these Minion tokens that Mike gave me? The Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to adjust the latch on the service door. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:32:24 GMT, "Oscar_Lives"
wrote: wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:19:19 GMT, "MLD" wrote: "Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:xpz0h.1038154$084.966915@attbi_s22... wrote in message ps.com... The model # of the furnace is GNJ050N12D1. I don't hear the zap, click sound which used to come before the sound of flames. A previous post mentioned a trouble code? Where can I check that? I don't think it's the thermostat. I replaced my old one thinking that was the problem. But with the new thermostat the exact same thing happens: the furnace and fan come on, but the furnace doesn't ignite. Did you polarize the thermostat when you installed it? Comfortmaker needs the thermostat polarized and sync'ed with the controller board before it will work correctly. Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in. MLD Actually, he IS in the HVAC group, and you can go **** yourself. Learn what a cross-post is. Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was up-to-date with the current validation. While your wallet's out .... '07 dues are due soon ..... Now, what do I do with all these Minion tokens that Mike gave me? The Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to adjust the latch on the service door. Legacy Minion tokens can be updgraded to the current rev for $1 / each. The legacy 50 cent tokens are eligible for a 50 % discount from that fee. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:31:53 -0800, Al Moran wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:32:24 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" wrote: The Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to adjust the latch on the service door. Yeh - his shoe didn't quite fit the screw heads. Dildo fix dat. Oh, ****, now I have to buy a new one :-( -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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I use propane and every year I have to bleed my gas line to the furnace
until I smell gas, close it off then try to restart and bingo!!!!!!!!! heat. the electronic ignition will not try forever to light the furnace and the pilot draws such a little bit of gas that its quicker to bleed the line then keep retrying. Is your ignitor working???????? "Noon-Air" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. when was the last time you had it checked and serviced?? |
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depends on the ignition module
"bob kater" wrote in message . .. I use propane and every year I have to bleed my gas line to the furnace until I smell gas, close it off then try to restart and bingo!!!!!!!!! heat. the electronic ignition will not try forever to light the furnace and the pilot draws such a little bit of gas that its quicker to bleed the line then keep retrying. Is your ignitor working???????? "Noon-Air" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. when was the last time you had it checked and serviced?? |
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Try fixing the leak in the line.
Bubba On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:35:54 GMT, "bob kater" wrote: I use propane and every year I have to bleed my gas line to the furnace until I smell gas, close it off then try to restart and bingo!!!!!!!!! heat. the electronic ignition will not try forever to light the furnace and the pilot draws such a little bit of gas that its quicker to bleed the line then keep retrying. Is your ignitor working???????? "Noon-Air" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... I have a Comfortmaker RPJ II gas furnace with an electronic igniter (no standing pilot light). The furnace and the fan come on when signaled by the thermostat but the furnace does not light. No flames come out of the burners. I've tested this with two different thermostats thinking our old thermostat was not turning on the furnace. But you can hear it come on. Any ideas what else would keep the burners from lighting/ not igniting? or what the problem may be? There is no smell of gas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. when was the last time you had it checked and serviced?? |
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Tony Hwang posted for all of us...
What is trouble code? Tony, what is your code to go away? -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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Tony Hwang posted for all of us...
He is trolling. Yeah, but you don't know anything! Go help Eigen lost his vector find ET. -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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I didn't see any LED signals. There isn't a list of codes anywhere on the furnace either. Did you have your aluminum foil hat on? You NEED that to dissipate the bad humors. -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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Tony Hwang posted for all of us...
If you can see if the module is getting power And Tony how does he see that? Flux capacitor? -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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Tony Hwang posted for all of us...
It could be main control logic board It could be a lot of things couldn't it Tony? Except you don't have a clue! -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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MLD posted for all of us...
Hey meathead--you're not in the HVAC group. Your crap doesn't fit here--save it for the sink hole you like to live in. MLD What does MLD stand for? HMMM Major League Dip****? -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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Oscar_Lives posted for all of us...
Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was up-to-date with the current validation. Does it have those little shiny whoreographics on it? You might need the X-ray specs to see them. -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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posted for all of us...
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:32:24 GMT, "Oscar_Lives" wrote: The Minion vending machine has been broke for years since Stormin tried to adjust the latch on the service door. Dildo fix dat. Yeah, he put a magnetic latch on the aluminum door. -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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Bubba posted for all of us...
Try fixing the leak in the line. Bubba Try taking a leak on the line? WAAAA? -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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![]() Al Moran wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:30:41 -0500, Tekkie® wrote: Oscar_Lives posted for all of us... Thanks Paul. I had to pull out my Minion card and make sure it was up-to-date with the current validation. Does it have those little shiny whoreographics on it? You might need the X-ray specs to see them. not if it's a hollygram. Hell, I didn't even get a Tellygram! The X-ray specs didn't work too well either. I wore them to the last Minion Convention and told Paul: " I always knew your were crazy, but now I can see your nuts!" |
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I'm having the same problem with mine. Let me know if/how you fix it
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Here's a video to help with troubleshooting & cleaning the flame sensor. It's a quick way to rule out a $15 part from causing your issue. Link to new flame sensors for the Comfortmaker RPJ II furnace in the description on YouTube. €‹https://youtu.be/aQqHtQAcxPU
-- For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...it-160419-.htm |
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