Is it time for the UN to come in and liberate us?

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ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

October 19, 2006

JPFO ALERT: R.I.P. Habeas Corpus

On Tuesday, October 17, 2006, another nail was pounded
into freedom's coffin when President Bush signed the
Military Commissions Act into law. Within the Act, the
800-year tradition of Habeas Corpus -- the right of the
accused to face their accuser in court -- was essentially
eliminated.

While much of the mainstream media glossed over this
news with a disinterested yawn, one brave commentator made
no bones about the magnitude of this treachery. Watch
MSNBC's Keith Olbermann at http://tinyurl.com/yk6osh as
he comments on this appalling development. If you do nothing
else, WATCH THIS VIDEO! It will make your blood boil,
to say the least.

In another video from MSNBC's "Countdown," Olbermann
interviews Jonathan Turley, Professor of Constitutional
Law at George Washington University
( http://youtube.com/watch?v=P25QkFZ-0zk ). Turley points
out that even giving "material support" (such as a donation)
to an organization that has been deemed "terrorist" can get
you designated an enemy combatant as well. And who
determines which organizations are associated with terrorism?
The president alone.

We are no longer standing at the precipice of a tyrannical
dictatorship -- we've stepped off the edge. The United States
is gleefully skipping down the same path as the former Soviet
Union, China, and Nazi Germany. "The Most Free Country on
Earth" is now merely a phrase of propaganda, not reality.

Still don't believe it? Check out our "Police State" page at
www.jpfo.org/policestate.htm . We're constantly adding new
articles -- too many, we believe -- that document our slide
into a tyrannical, dictatorial regime. Articles like this:

FBI Director wants ISPs to Track Users
http://tinyurl.com/yhoxqs

Tracking your movements on the internet? Is this what our
country is about -- quietly acquiescing as the American Stasi
monitors your communications?

IT IS NOT!

America is about the Bill of Rights, that document which
specifically states that there are rights upon which the
federal government _cannot_ infringe. The Military Commissions
Act essentially guts the Bill of Rights, and it is up to us,
The People, to demand that our government follow its own
charter.

JPFO is constantly exhorting our supporters to celebrate Bill
of Rights Day each December 15. But is that enough? EVERY day
should be Bill of Rights Day. When we think about our rights
once a year (or less), we suffer.

Send this alert to everyone you know, regardless of political
affiliation. Celebrate Bill of Rights Day on December 15 (we
have many ideas which you can use at
http://www.your10rights.com/bord.html ). But most importantly,
demand that your rights be respected. There are only 56 days
until Bill of Rights Day. Will you celebrate its true spirit
.... or the hollow farce our government wishes to make of it?

Remember, if you don't defend your rights, don't complain
when you lose them.

- The Liberty Crew


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ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

And I thought "Jews for Jesus" was peculiar.

"Toller" wrote in message
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ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

And I thought "Jews for Jesus" was peculiar.


Actually, this organization makes the NRA look like a bunch of pussies. I
like it.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Is it time for the UN to come in and liberate us?

----- Original Message -----
From: "JPFO Webmaster"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: JPFO ALERT: R.I.P. Habeas Corpus


ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

October 19, 2006

JPFO ALERT: R.I.P. Habeas Corpus

On Tuesday, October 17, 2006, another nail was pounded
into freedom's coffin when President Bush signed the
Military Commissions Act into law. Within the Act, the
800-year tradition of Habeas Corpus -- the right of the
accused to face their accuser in court -- was essentially
eliminated.


First, habeas corpus is used almost always in criminal complaints.
Terrorists, POWs, and unlawful enemy combatants (spys, saboteurs, guerillas,
etc.) are not criminals and have never had the protections afforded in the
Bill of Rights (trial by jury, legal counsel, etc.). It's not an 800-year
old tradition. Habeas Corpus has NEVER been afforded those captured in time
of war.

Second, the president's Article II powers trumph almost any other
constitutional provisions. The courts have, for 230 years, unanimously said
so.

Third, the Supreme Court tried to interpose itself in the situation. The
Congress said: 1) We are going to set up, by law, the exact same military
commissions the president originally proposed and 2) We are removing the
whole business from review by the judiciary. This means that the military
tribunals are OUTSIDE the jurisdiction of the courts. Never again can the
Supreme Court meddle with military tribunals. The court was not only
rebuked, it was slapped down hard.

Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541 camps in the
US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

The first military tribunal was conducted by George Washington when Maj Gen
Andre was tried as a spy - by a military commission. Andre was hanged within
ten days of being caught behind our lines in disguise.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Is it time for the UN to come in and liberate us?

----- Original Message -----
From: "JPFO Webmaster"
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: JPFO ALERT: R.I.P. Habeas Corpus


ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

October 19, 2006

JPFO ALERT: R.I.P. Habeas Corpus

On Tuesday, October 17, 2006, another nail was pounded
into freedom's coffin when President Bush signed the
Military Commissions Act into law. Within the Act, the
800-year tradition of Habeas Corpus -- the right of the
accused to face their accuser in court -- was essentially
eliminated.


First, habeas corpus is used almost always in criminal complaints.
Terrorists, POWs, and unlawful enemy combatants (spys, saboteurs,
guerillas, etc.) are not criminals and have never had the protections
afforded in the Bill of Rights (trial by jury, legal counsel, etc.). It's
not an 800-year old tradition. Habeas Corpus has NEVER been afforded those
captured in time of war.

Second, the president's Article II powers trumph almost any other
constitutional provisions. The courts have, for 230 years, unanimously
said so.

Third, the Supreme Court tried to interpose itself in the situation. The
Congress said: 1) We are going to set up, by law, the exact same military
commissions the president originally proposed and 2) We are removing the
whole business from review by the judiciary. This means that the military
tribunals are OUTSIDE the jurisdiction of the courts. Never again can the
Supreme Court meddle with military tribunals. The court was not only
rebuked, it was slapped down hard.

Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541 camps in
the US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

The first military tribunal was conducted by George Washington when Maj
Gen Andre was tried as a spy - by a military commission. Andre was hanged
within ten days of being caught behind our lines in disguise.

This system *might* work fairly, assuming the military was not contaminated
at the moment. You might do well to do some reading about the military's
condition at the end of Eisenhower's term.

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Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541 camps in the
US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

Don't forget the Americans sent to camps in the US.

The first military tribunal was conducted by George Washington when Maj Gen
Andre was tried as a spy - by a military commission. Andre was hanged within
ten days of being caught behind our lines in disguise.

In article .net, Norminn wrote:
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Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541 camps in the
US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

Don't forget the Americans sent to camps in the US.

But they *did* have access to our courts.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
et...
In article .net,
Norminn wrote:
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Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541 camps in
the
US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

Don't forget the Americans sent to camps in the US.

But they *did* have access to our courts.

Are we referring to Japanese families during WWII?

In article , "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message
. net...
In article .net,
Norminn wrote:
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Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541 camps in
the
US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

Don't forget the Americans sent to camps in the US.

But they *did* have access to our courts.

Are we referring to Japanese families during WWII?

That's what I assumed.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article .net,
Norminn wrote:
clipped

Interestingly, there were over 300,000 POWs incarcerated in 541
camps in the
US during WW2. NOT ONE of them had access to our courts, via habeas
or
otherwise. ALL were handled by the military.

Don't forget the Americans sent to camps in the US.

But they *did* have access to our courts.

If you mean the Japanese, yes they did have access to our courts. The courts
uniformly denied relief. Executive Order 9066, to round up and detain
Japanese-Americans was ultimately found to be constitutional by the Supreme
Court and is still the law of the land.

If, on the other hand, you mean American citizens caught on the battlefield
in the uniform of Germans or Italians, no, they did not have access to the
courts.

Stormin Mormon wrote:

I understand that it is almost impossible to keep politics from
creeping into home repair thread. It is not impossible for someone
starting an entirely political thread to type OT straightaway. Thanks.

R