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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no investigations.....

politics as usual

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Well, my suggestion for 'House Repair" would still be: vote
Democratic- but, as Mark Twain said long ago, the United States has
no native criminal class, except Congress...

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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no investigations.....

politics as usual


So does this relate to alt.home.repair in that it's people that need
repair?

The general interest here is home repair.
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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no investigations.....

politics as usual


It isn't that there are so many more child molesters, it's that there are
so few parents.

You want to stop child abuse? The only solution is to put one parent back
in the home instead at work. The ideal choice to raise the children is
the mother - not a child care worker.

This current social experiment of two parents at work and the children
raising themselves has failed.

Political incorrect version: Time to get the bras back on girls and get
your ass home or stop having children.


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liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas
Jefferson

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conservatives." - ETG, CW4 USA Retired
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Sev wrote:
Well, my suggestion for 'House Repair" would still be: vote
Democratic- but, as Mark Twain said long ago, the United States has
no native criminal class, except Congress...


Foley is an exception to the rule: Republicans are corrupt from the neck up,
Democrats are corrupt from the waist down.




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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.


The lesson here is simple. People quite often covet what they openly
preach against. It happens much more often than people realize.
Another example which has been proven time and time again is the most
ardent homophobes harbor latent homosexual desires. Phil English,
another Republican member of congress, has a perfect record of voting in
favor of anti-gay legislation, but was caught soliciting a male
prostitute. Jim McCrery is another Republican anti-gay voter who is
queer as a football bat.


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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of
congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a
position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the
whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party
untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts....
why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are
moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was
not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world
class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands
on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no
investigations.....

politics as usual


It isn't that there are so many more child molesters, it's that there
are
so few parents.

You want to stop child abuse? The only solution is to put one parent
back
in the home instead at work. The ideal choice to raise the children is
the mother - not a child care worker.


The vast majority of abuse happens in the home by family members.

This current social experiment of two parents at work and the children
raising themselves has failed.


Your ****ed up logic is what has failed.

Political incorrect version: Time to get the bras back on girls and
get
your ass home or stop having children.


A real gem of inbred hillbilly logic right there.


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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no investigations.....

politics as usual


Repug politics as usual ----

But this one has the House Leadership exposed as enabling Foley's perverted
ways....... Soccer moms & Nascar dads will not buy into that...


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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:00:59 -0400, "A Brick in the Wall"
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[...]

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......


[...]

I am so disillusioned with Congress now that it has become totally
partisan, as poster says above -- "they value only themselves and
their party".

I still think there is a modicum of difference between the Dems and
Reps. The Dems are a bunch of confused pussies who are afraid to act
on their basic, New Deal-inspired belief that they are supposed to
serve the people. Think of the progressive legislation that was
passed by past Administrations! We will only realize what we
had when it has been stolen from us by our own apathy.

The Reps of today, on the other hand, have been engineered by a
careful, well-designed Karl Rovian plot over the last 30 years to undo
all the good that was done for the countryup until that time. Now it
is raw power, to be maintained at all costs, totally amoral.

Gone is any semblance of bi-partisanship.

Gone is the welfare of the people.

Just keep them scared by "war" on this and "war" on that,
and pander to the religious nuts who can't think beyond their
own fears and superstitions.

And of course keep a firm grip on all three branches of government,
to preclude any semblance of honest debate. Damn the Constitition and
the separation of powers! Full speed toward a Fascist regime.

With these last bills passed by the B**sh Administration --
shamefully joined by several Dems, say goodbye to Habeus
Corpus; say goodbye to what was left of our civil liberties.

Congress is just a whorehouse filled with white millionaires
who will do anything to stay in office. There are a few --
a very few -- public servants left, mostly on the Dem side,
but they have no influence on the juggernaut.

I read the foreign press, which has excellent Web sites.
What they think of the B**sh torture and indefinite detention
policies -- both completely unConstitutional! -- makes a
patriotic American like me blush with shame. We have
****ed away our world capital. What will we tell our children and
grandchildren?









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"Gene" wrote in message
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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of
congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a
position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the
whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party
untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts....
why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are
moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was
not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world
class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands
on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no
investigations.....

politics as usual


It isn't that there are so many more child molesters, it's that there
are
so few parents.

You want to stop child abuse? The only solution is to put one parent
back
in the home instead at work. The ideal choice to raise the children is
the mother - not a child care worker.


The vast majority of abuse happens in the home by family members.


No, dimwit, the vast majority of abuse is by business and government.

The only abuse which raises ratings on our corporate controlled media is
child abuse and judging from the recent trends, our media would love more
pretty women abusing young boys. The issue is a perfect one for any
politician. It's the type of issue that puts them on the side of any
audience. So with the media slavering over the next sexual abuse scandal
and the politicians so eager to draw attention from the real abuses going
on today 'Chester the Molestor' is the perfect candidate.

The much smaller catagory, sexual abuse of children by a parent, is a
problem whose rate is determined more by the society it occures in.

A prudish society which throws a national fit over an exposed tit,
criminalizes prostitution, bans nudism, criminalizes Rubins and has
complete jackasses like Ashcroft who can not look at a marble tit as the
chief legal officer anytime, increases the incidence of sexual abuse of
all ages of women. Societies the average born 'agin' jerk would trash as
immoral actually have a much lower incidence of child sexual abuse -
Denmark for instance or Germany.


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liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas
Jefferson

"History is earmarked by the successes of liberals and mistakes of
conservatives." - ETG, CW4 USA Retired
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Roedy Green wrote:
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or indirectly quoted someone who said :

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans..


Name some Democrats. There are long lists of Republicans. Child
molesting is primarily a Republican vice. Republicanism is about
controlling others through force and intimidation. It goes with child
molesting, child rape and S&M like ham and eggs.


How about Gerry Studds:

"Congressional page sex scandal
Studds is remembered chiefly for his role in the 1983 Congressional
page sex scandal, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by
the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with a
minor - in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male
congressional page.

U.S. Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) demanded their expulsion. On July 20,
the House voted for censure, the first time that censure had been
imposed for sexual misconduct. Crane, who tearfully apologized for his
transgression, lost his bid for reelection in 1984. Studds, however,
refused to apologize (even calling a press conference with the former
page, in which both stated that they were consenting adults at the time
of the relationship and that it was therefore not the business of
others to censure them for their private relationship), and he
continued to be reelected until his retirement in 1996."


Hmmm.. Here we have Republicans when they see wrong doing by their
own party members, demanding they step down. And a Democrat who
didn't appologize, was supported by his fellow Dems who, as usual,
close ranks and fight on, trying to justify his actions. So Studds,
who we know actually had sex with a page, stayed on as a member of
Congress for another 12 years.

Or how about Barney Frank, who had young guys running an escort service
out of his house? And he's still a member of Congress, last time I
checked.

Anyone that looks at having sex with children as some kind of partisan
issue is the classic example of how some will seek to divide the
country for their own selfish puposes.




The thing that is so strange is that with Abu Ghraib, the entire
military was infected with kinky S&M and nobody seemed to notice this
meant that necessarily Bush, Rumsfeld and the top military folk are
all very sick perverts whose influence leached down corrupted
everyone.

The president was caught having an S&M kink male prostitute sleeping
over, and everyone looked the other way. The rest of the world is
aghast. You are behaving like ancient Romans pretending not to notice
when the emperor had his Nubian slave bang his butt in the Coliseum
before a crowd of thousands.

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Well, my suggestion for 'House Repair" would still be: vote
Democratic- but, as Mark Twain said long ago, the United States has
no native criminal class, except Congress...

Clone Barry Goldwater.
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I read the foreign press, which has excellent Web sites.
What they think of the B**sh torture and indefinite detention
policies -- both completely unConstitutional! -- makes a
patriotic American like me blush with shame. We have
****ed away our world capital. What will we tell our children and
grandchildren?



With voters as brain-dead as ours seem to be, our only hope is for Jim
Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Bakker, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell to pray for
us. A few "God bless America" s from George can't hurt. "When in
doubt, choose life." Trouble is, George Bush (the mediocre,
overprivileged alcoholic) is NEVER in doubt, so .. Bombs away! Kill all
those sons of bitches that don't take our brand of "democracy". Nuke
them! Shoot them! Napalm them. They have enough weapons, bombs to
fight an American Revolution 100 times over if they wanted a civilized
form of government. Trouble is, our oil is right in the middle of the
mess and we have to feed our AC's and SUV's. Can't wait until China is
rich enough to afford as many cars as we have......keep shopping at Walmart.
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Nebuchadnezzar II wrote:
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The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.


The lesson here is simple. People quite often covet what they openly
preach against. It happens much more often than people realize.
Another example which has been proven time and time again is the most
ardent homophobes harbor latent homosexual desires. Phil English,
another Republican member of congress, has a perfect record of voting in
favor of anti-gay legislation, but was caught soliciting a male
prostitute. Jim McCrery is another Republican anti-gay voter who is
queer as a football bat.


Actually, the New Testament warns those who would follower Christ
explicitly against such "preaching" and warns of the justifiable
condemnation which in fact follows such. So your statement, "People
quite often covet what they openly preach against." is supported by the
fundamental teachings of the Christian fellowship. The failure of those
who condemn others for an evil they themselves commit suggests that they
are not what they claim to be; that is, they are not in fact disciples
of Christ, but rather are disciples of the Anti-Christ.



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I found it hilarious that some right winger talking heads were bringing up
the Clinton/Lewinsky stuff! It's apples and oranges. In the first case, 2
wrongs don't make a right. And 2nd of all, what Clinton did was a lot less
worse than what this child predator Foley did. Clinton and Lewinsky were 2
consenting ADULTS. The whole Clinton affair shouldn't have been made
public anyway. We've all made mistakes. A lot of other Presidents have
had affairs, but the reporters back then knew that the country had more
pressing concerns than if the President was getting some tail on the side!
:-)

Anyway, seems like every time a Republican gets caught doing something,
they immediately mention the Clinton/Lewinsky affair. Another reason why
the Republicans are, on average, dumbasses. Because Clinton got oral sex
from an intern, does that mean the Republicans have carte blanche to do
whatever?!?! Also, if they hate Clinton so much, why are they always
bringing up his actions to justify their own? It's liek they're saying:
"your precious Clinton messed up, so why can't we?"

Doesn't make any sense, but then again Repubs tend to be not too bright.

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Roedy Green wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 17:25:14 -0700, wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans..


Name some Democrats. There are long lists of Republicans. Child
molesting is primarily a Republican vice. Republicanism is about
controlling others through force and intimidation. It goes with child
molesting, child rape and S&M like ham and eggs.


One example you choose to ignore is that of Rep. Crane and Rep. Studds
(I may have misspelled their names). Crane was a Republican who was
caught in a heterosexual relationship with a page; Studds was a Democrat
who was caught in a homosexual relationship with a page. Both were
censured, but neither was kicked out of Congress. Crane publicly
apologized for his disgraceful conduct and was defeated when he ran for
reelection; Studds was defiant and refused to acknowledge his actions
were wrongful; he was subsequently reelected multiple times until he
apparently got to the last page and retired.


The president was caught having an S&M kink male prostitute sleeping
over, and everyone looked the other way.


Aren't you talking about Barney Frank, the Democratic congressman whose
boyfriend was running a prostitution ring out of Frank's apartment?


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Roedy Green wrote:
On 30 Sep 2006 17:25:14 -0700, wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans..


Name some Democrats. There are long lists of Republicans. Child
molesting is primarily a Republican vice. Republicanism is about
controlling others through force and intimidation. It goes with child
molesting, child rape and S&M like ham and eggs.


One example you choose to ignore is that of Rep. Crane and Rep. Studds
(I may have misspelled their names). Crane was a Republican who was
caught in a heterosexual relationship with a page; Studds was a Democrat
who was caught in a homosexual relationship with a page. Both were
censured, but neither was kicked out of Congress. Crane publicly
apologized for his disgraceful conduct and was defeated when he ran for
reelection; Studds was defiant and refused to acknowledge his actions
were wrongful; he was subsequently reelected multiple times until he
apparently got to the last page and retired.


The president was caught having an S&M kink male prostitute sleeping
over, and everyone looked the other way.


Aren't you talking about Barney Frank, the Democratic congressman whose
boyfriend was running a prostitution ring out of Frank's apartment?


Pardon me for butting into this thread, but OP might be talking about
a ringer that the B**shies planted in the press corps. His function
was to throw the "President" soft-ball questions at press conferences,
while a REAL reporter -- the fearles, peerless Helen Thomas -- was
relegated to the back row like a widdle kid being punished -- for
asking a REAL question. Most of the press corps has learned to
self-censor, but Helen Thomas always called it like it is.

When he was unveiled, unmasked, un-- oh, this could be fun --
there was never a word of apology from the Karl Rove machine.

Using keywords "white house press corps male prostitute planted by
bush" yields quantities of news reports and blogs.

BTW - guy's name was Jeff D. Guckert, and his credentials were issued
by the B**shies under "Jeff Gannon".

Here's just one:
http://tinyurl.com/pz9ut

They. Have. No.Shame.

Aspasia
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aspasia wrote in message
...

Pardon me for butting into this thread, but OP might be talking about
a ringer that the B**shies planted in the press corps. His function
was to throw the "President" soft-ball questions at press conferences,
while a REAL reporter -- the fearles, peerless Helen Thomas -- was
relegated to the back row like a widdle kid being punished -- for
asking a REAL question. Most of the press corps has learned to
self-censor, but Helen Thomas always called it like it is.

When he was unveiled, unmasked, un-- oh, this could be fun --
there was never a word of apology from the Karl Rove machine.

Using keywords "white house press corps male prostitute planted by
bush" yields quantities of news reports and blogs.

BTW - guy's name was Jeff D. Guckert, and his credentials were issued
by the B**shies under "Jeff Gannon".

Here's just one: http://tinyurl.com/pz9ut

They. Have. No.Shame.

Aspasia


I heard that issuing a press credential under an assumed name was against
the law, yet nothing ever came of that. No one asked how he got the fake
press pass or who told the FBI (CIA?) background checkers to look the other
way.

Puzz



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SNIP
They. Have. No.Shame.

Aspasia


I heard that issuing a press credential under an assumed name was against
the law, yet nothing ever came of that. No one asked how he got the fake
press pass or who told the FBI (CIA?) background checkers to look the
other
way.

Puzz



Against the law? The law is whatever Bush interprets it to be.




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"jerryl" wrote in message
. ..

SNIP
They. Have. No.Shame.

Aspasia


I heard that issuing a press credential under an assumed name was

against
the law, yet nothing ever came of that. No one asked how he got the

fake
press pass or who told the FBI (CIA?) background checkers to look the
other
way.

Puzz



Against the law? The law is whatever Bush interprets it to be.


CITE. Why aren't you in prison?


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You know... you have to give Bill Clinton his props .... he at least had the
good sense to deal someone of age and opposite sex. We can disagree with
his morals, but at least he strayed in the right ballpark.


wrote in message
oups.com...
The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no investigations.....

politics as usual



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Buster Chops wrote:
You know... you have to give Bill Clinton his props .... he at least had the
good sense to deal someone of age and opposite sex. We can disagree with
his morals, but at least he strayed in the right ballpark.


When I read about Bill's involvement in the Ann Richards funeral, I sort
of wondered what "accompanying the body" meant.


wrote in message
oups.com...
The whole foley/page mess should be a lesson to us all..... Child
abusers exist in all levels of our society...from the hood and the
trailer parks of america all the way to the halls of congress....child
molesters and abusers exist everywhere in our society.... teachers,
policemen, firemen, ministers...your uncle or brother...best
friend....you never know where these people are or who they are....
crafty folks these wolves in sheeps clothing are.

I think 1 in 5 girls in america are molested before they reach
adulthood.....many of them never reveal their ordeals either.... so
dont trust your kids around anyone....especially someone in a position
of authority or trust... statistics for boys being abused are just a
bit less than girls...1 in 7...I dont know and Im not going to bother
to research it before I enter this post. Do the research your damn
self.

One other thing.... People should be concerned that many in congress
knew of foleys actions regarding the young page boy and we should be
concerned because these fellow politicians of foleys covered the whole
thing and are now even seeking to thwart any investigations...these
people are more concerned with keeping everything hushed up than they
are about protecting someones child.

Men knew of Foleys actions and said nothing...... they were more
concerned with keeping Foley in office and his name and party untainted
from scandal than they were about the well being of a child...

This is not a republican thing either...Im sure there are plenty of
democratic child abusers molesters in congress...just as there are
republicans...

People always scream democrat or republican when scandal erupts.... why
cant people see that all politicians are the same....none are moral...
none are ethical.... they value only themselves and their party....
even the safety of a child is of no concern to a politician......

I bet there are a lot of congressmen and senators scrambling this
weekend to remove the child porn from their computers....Foley was not
an isolated incident....our elected officials probably have world class
child porn collections...... Im sure those guys on the committees who
look into child porn or child abuse are all there because they are
trying to cover their own asses or they are there to get their hands on
child porn. None are there to protect children.

Anywhooooooooo... lets all watch this scandal and see what
happens....lets watch as it quickly swept under the rug....no charges
will be filed....Foley will quietly go away.... no investigations.....

politics as usual



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