Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

Regards...Bob

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On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:07:44 GMT, "Photon713"
wrote:

Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

Regards...Bob

Consider renting one for a half day. It won't cost $100.

Oren
They have computers, and they may have other weapons of mass destruction.
Janet Reno, Attorney General, Friday, February 27, 1998

Photon713 wrote:
Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

You still have to brush the paint out, or should, to insure that all
cracks, crevices and voids are filled with paint. Otherwise those
points will fail sooner and you'll be painting again earlier than you
should.

For a cheapie paint sprayer you can use a 2 1/2 gallon compression pump
sprayer, thin the paint a bit and brush it out.

R

Photon713 wrote:
Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

Regards...Bob


You can buy a cheap sprayer or you can rent a good one. The cheap one
will take 4 times longer and not do a good of a job and cost more. Or you
can use a brush, maybe faster than the cheap homeowners' sprayer and save
money.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

Photon713 wrote:
Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

Regards...Bob

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lvMMMCDLXXIX+1

HIRE SOMEONE TO DO IT. You can get a college student or a friendly
immigrant to do it for under $100 (with the added advantage that you
won't have to do a thing). Spraying will put overspray on everything
(house, car, garden, neighbor's stuff, etc.) and you need to wear a
decent mask that will cost $20.00 itself. Cutting down on overspray
requires a lot of prep time and materials such as tarps or vinyl
sheeting (more money?) PAINTING BY HAND ISN'T AS HARD AS IT SOUNDS -
The flat surfaces are rolled (duh) and only the corners and tight spots
are brushed. It doesn't take as long as you think if you were to do it
yourself. You can buy a roller for under ten bucks that is the width
of the 4x4 stock you probably have the thing built out of. Spraying
sounds great but trust me, you will not like the overspray (I paint for
a living).

RicodJour wrote:


Photon713 wrote:
Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

You still have to brush the paint out, or should, to insure that all
cracks, crevices and voids are filled with paint. Otherwise those
points will fail sooner and you'll be painting again earlier than you
should.

This is kind of defeating the purpose of spraying. If you have to brush out
a sprayed finish you did something wrong.

For a cheapie paint sprayer you can use a 2 1/2 gallon compression pump
sprayer, thin the paint a bit and brush it out.

Maybe that's your problem. A hand-pumped sprayer is _not_ a substitute for
HVLP or high pressure airless.

R

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Photon713 wrote:

Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

If you can't afford a decent sprayer then brushing/rolling will be more
satisfactory.

For latex renting a commercial-quality airless will do the job nicely, don't
go for the cheap all-in-one Wagner. Be sure you thin the paint according
to the sprayer manufacturer's instructions--that generally means using a
Zahn cup that usually comes with the sprayer if you buy one, whether it's
included with the rentals will depend on where you rent I suspect.

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dno wrote:


Photon713 wrote:
Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

Regards...Bob

--
______________
lvMMMCDLXXIX+1

HIRE SOMEONE TO DO IT. You can get a college student or a friendly
immigrant to do it for under $100 (with the added advantage that you
won't have to do a thing). Spraying will put overspray on everything
(house, car, garden, neighbor's stuff, etc.)

Not if you do it on a reasonably calm day and use the right equipment.

and you need to wear a
decent mask that will cost $20.00 itself. Cutting down on overspray
requires a lot of prep time and materials such as tarps or vinyl
sheeting (more money?)

Just use airless. Not the right ticket for furniture-grade finishes but it
does a bang-up job on houses and the overspray is minimal--the only time I
get paint on the car is if I point the sprayer at the car and pull the
trigger.

PAINTING BY HAND ISN'T AS HARD AS IT SOUNDS -
The flat surfaces are rolled (duh) and only the corners and tight spots
are brushed. It doesn't take as long as you think if you were to do it
yourself. You can buy a roller for under ten bucks that is the width
of the 4x4 stock you probably have the thing built out of. Spraying
sounds great but trust me, you will not like the overspray (I paint for
a living).

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Photon713 wrote:

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

You still have to brush the paint out, or should, to insure that all
cracks, crevices and voids are filled with paint. Otherwise those
points will fail sooner and you'll be painting again earlier than you
should.

This is kind of defeating the purpose of spraying. If you have to brush out
a sprayed finish you did something wrong.

I'm not convinced that spraying is the way to go in the first place.
It would depend entirely on the configuration. Take a look at this
pictu
http://www.prontocasagiardino.com/im...toportante.jpg
You can't spray that without brushing out. This one
http://www.dreamingcreek.com/Images/...outdoor3-1.jpg you could
spray, but you'd still need a brush in a few places.

For a cheapie paint sprayer you can use a 2 1/2 gallon compression pump
sprayer, thin the paint a bit and brush it out.

Maybe that's your problem. A hand-pumped sprayer is _not_ a substitute for
HVLP or high pressure airless.

No kidding? I'm sure you're not suggesting that a beginner with no
experience spraying will be able to spray a drip and run free finish
the first time out of the gate, right?

When all things are factored in - time, expense, cleaning time, ease of
operation - using two rollers (9" and 3") and a brush would probably be
the best choice for the OP. Since the OP is convinced that spraying is
the only option, and he doesn't want to spend any money, I tossed out
the compression sprayer.

The OP asked for a low cost sprayer and the Wagner things suck. The
compression sprayer is useful for a bunch of other things and is about
as cheap as it gets. It obviously won't spray a finish comparable to a
pro tool, but it will get the paint where he needs it.

R

RicodJour wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Photon713 wrote:

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

You still have to brush the paint out, or should, to insure that all
cracks, crevices and voids are filled with paint. Otherwise those
points will fail sooner and you'll be painting again earlier than you
should.

This is kind of defeating the purpose of spraying. If you have to brush
out a sprayed finish you did something wrong.

I'm not convinced that spraying is the way to go in the first place.
It would depend entirely on the configuration. Take a look at this
pictu

http://www.prontocasagiardino.com/im...toportante.jpg
You can't spray that without brushing out. This one
http://www.dreamingcreek.com/Images/...outdoor3-1.jpg you could
spray, but you'd still need a brush in a few places.

I can't see where there would be any difficulty with spraying either of them
with airless.

For a cheapie paint sprayer you can use a 2 1/2 gallon compression pump
sprayer, thin the paint a bit and brush it out.

Maybe that's your problem. A hand-pumped sprayer is _not_ a substitute
for HVLP or high pressure airless.

No kidding? I'm sure you're not suggesting that a beginner with no
experience spraying will be able to spray a drip and run free finish
the first time out of the gate, right?

Are you suggesting that a beginner with no experience would be able to brush
one? Takes more skill to do a good job with a brush than with a sprayer.

When all things are factored in - time, expense, cleaning time, ease of
operation - using two rollers (9" and 3") and a brush would probably be
the best choice for the OP. Since the OP is convinced that spraying is
the only option, and he doesn't want to spend any money, I tossed out
the compression sprayer.

The OP asked for a low cost sprayer and the Wagner things suck. The
compression sprayer is useful for a bunch of other things and is about
as cheap as it gets. It obviously won't spray a finish comparable to a
pro tool, but it will get the paint where he needs it.

So will the cheap Wagner that you denigrate. And it's likely to do a far
better job than something intended to spray weed killer.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Photon713 wrote:

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

You still have to brush the paint out, or should, to insure that all
cracks, crevices and voids are filled with paint. Otherwise those
points will fail sooner and you'll be painting again earlier than you
should.

This is kind of defeating the purpose of spraying. If you have to brush
out a sprayed finish you did something wrong.

I'm not convinced that spraying is the way to go in the first place.
It would depend entirely on the configuration. Take a look at this
pictu

http://www.prontocasagiardino.com/im...toportante.jpg
You can't spray that without brushing out. This one
http://www.dreamingcreek.com/Images/...outdoor3-1.jpg you could
spray, but you'd still need a brush in a few places.

I can't see where there would be any difficulty with spraying either of them
with airless.

Let me guess. You didn't need flying lessons, you just hopped in the
cockpit and took off, right? We're not talking about you, strange as
it may seem. We're talking about someone with no experience. If you
believe that someone would be able to spray all of those corners and
between the sides of the beams without having runs all over the place,
you're deluded. They'd have to break out the brush anyway you look at
it.

For a cheapie paint sprayer you can use a 2 1/2 gallon compression pump
sprayer, thin the paint a bit and brush it out.

Maybe that's your problem. A hand-pumped sprayer is _not_ a substitute
for HVLP or high pressure airless.

No kidding? I'm sure you're not suggesting that a beginner with no
experience spraying will be able to spray a drip and run free finish
the first time out of the gate, right?

Are you suggesting that a beginner with no experience would be able to brush
one? Takes more skill to do a good job with a brush than with a sprayer.

When all things are factored in - time, expense, cleaning time, ease of
operation - using two rollers (9" and 3") and a brush would probably be
the best choice for the OP. Since the OP is convinced that spraying is
the only option, and he doesn't want to spend any money, I tossed out
the compression sprayer.

The OP asked for a low cost sprayer and the Wagner things suck. The
compression sprayer is useful for a bunch of other things and is about
as cheap as it gets. It obviously won't spray a finish comparable to a
pro tool, but it will get the paint where he needs it.

So will the cheap Wagner that you denigrate. And it's likely to do a far
better job than something intended to spray weed killer.

I denigrate...? Are you talking about this range of Wagner sprayer?
http://www.epinions.com/Wagner_Power...splay_~reviews
Maybe you have easily satisfied standards in your equipment, but I
don't buy stuff just to buy stuff. The rating of that Wagner from that
link was skewed by a guy who liked it after spraying a garage door and
a couple of other doors. Doors aren't pergolas.

Compression sprayers come in a variety of sizes and types. The better
ones have changeable tips to change the spray pattern and deal with
different viscosities. They can be used to spray all sorts of stuff,
from deck stain and sealer, pesticides, formwork release agent, and
yes, paint.

R

RicodJour wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Photon713 wrote:

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor
paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

You still have to brush the paint out, or should, to insure that all
cracks, crevices and voids are filled with paint. Otherwise those
points will fail sooner and you'll be painting again earlier than
you should.

This is kind of defeating the purpose of spraying. If you have to
brush out a sprayed finish you did something wrong.

I'm not convinced that spraying is the way to go in the first place.
It would depend entirely on the configuration. Take a look at this
pictu


http://www.prontocasagiardino.com/im...toportante.jpg
You can't spray that without brushing out. This one
http://www.dreamingcreek.com/Images/...outdoor3-1.jpg you could
spray, but you'd still need a brush in a few places.

I can't see where there would be any difficulty with spraying either of
them with airless.

Let me guess. You didn't need flying lessons, you just hopped in the
cockpit and took off, right? We're not talking about you, strange as
it may seem. We're talking about someone with no experience. If you
believe that someone would be able to spray all of those corners and
between the sides of the beams without having runs all over the place,
you're deluded. They'd have to break out the brush anyway you look at
it.

If they do they do. Geez, it's not the effing end of the universe you know.

For a cheapie paint sprayer you can use a 2 1/2 gallon compression
pump sprayer, thin the paint a bit and brush it out.

Maybe that's your problem. A hand-pumped sprayer is _not_ a
substitute for HVLP or high pressure airless.

No kidding? I'm sure you're not suggesting that a beginner with no
experience spraying will be able to spray a drip and run free finish
the first time out of the gate, right?

Are you suggesting that a beginner with no experience would be able to
brush
one? Takes more skill to do a good job with a brush than with a sprayer.

When all things are factored in - time, expense, cleaning time, ease of
operation - using two rollers (9" and 3") and a brush would probably be
the best choice for the OP. Since the OP is convinced that spraying is
the only option, and he doesn't want to spend any money, I tossed out
the compression sprayer.

The OP asked for a low cost sprayer and the Wagner things suck. The
compression sprayer is useful for a bunch of other things and is about
as cheap as it gets. It obviously won't spray a finish comparable to a
pro tool, but it will get the paint where he needs it.

So will the cheap Wagner that you denigrate. And it's likely to do a far
better job than something intended to spray weed killer.

I denigrate...? Are you talking about this range of Wagner sprayer?

http://www.epinions.com/Wagner_Power...splay_~reviews

That's the one.

Maybe you have easily satisfied standards in your equipment, but I
don't buy stuff just to buy stuff. The rating of that Wagner from that
link was skewed by a guy who liked it after spraying a garage door and
a couple of other doors. Doors aren't pergolas.

And a few others who were happy with it. I've never bought one, just used
one to spray some "difficult" coatings. Pro airless works better, but the
cheapie gets house paint out the nozzle just fine.

Compression sprayers come in a variety of sizes and types. The better
ones have changeable tips to change the spray pattern and deal with
different viscosities. They can be used to spray all sorts of stuff,
from deck stain and sealer, pesticides, formwork release agent, and
yes, paint.

Doesn't mean that it's good at any of them.

The guy's not trying to win the concours at Long Beach for God's sake.

Develop some effing _perspective_.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Compression sprayers come in a variety of sizes and types. The better
ones have changeable tips to change the spray pattern and deal with
different viscosities. They can be used to spray all sorts of stuff,
from deck stain and sealer, pesticides, formwork release agent, and
yes, paint.

Doesn't mean that it's good at any of them.

The guy's not trying to win the concours at Long Beach for God's sake.

Develop some effing _perspective_.

I went back to the beginning of this thread to develop some effing
_perspective_. I was curious to see what advice you had for the OP.
Surprise. No advice, just a criticism of a low tech solution for the
intended purpose. It then devolved from there.

If you have some advice, give it. If you take umbrage with another's
method/advice, feel free to say so - then provide what is, in your
opinion, a superior alternative. That is how it is done. Thanks.

R

Photon713 wrote:
Morning all...

Looking for an inexpensive, around $100, paint sprayer to
spray paint a pergola. I will be using a white latex outdoor paint.
Painting by brush would take forever. Spray painting is the only
viable option. Anyone have a recommendation?

Regards...Bob

Fill a surplus bomb casing with paint and then deliver it to the local
airforce base.

Ask them to do some target practice on your pergola