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Neighbor with bright light
My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury
vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. Thanks, John |
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wrote: Call the power company and complain. If that doesnt work see if there are laws in your town about outdoor lighting. Take pictures and videos and go to court if necessary. Or get a light abd shine it in her window!!! wrote: My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. Thanks, John pellet gun - every time it's replaced |
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wrote: pellet gun - every time it's replaced I actually thought of that, but from the angle of the bullet would be facing my house, it would seem to obvious who shot it and figuring I complained about the light; she would suspect me of shooting it out and call the cops. |
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If its brighter now a larger watt bulb was put in, there are local
laws. It depends on how far you want to go with it, maybe a letter from you could explain it to her, maybe she could keep it off till an hour you are not outside. Neighbor fights can get nasty. |
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Try the city building department, Code enforcement officer, City manager the
point is you have to make a stink, let them know this a nuisance to you and your family. Are there any other neighbors bothered by this light ? if so go as group, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. Thanks, John |
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I thought of somthing els You said the power Co. came and replaced it so it must be there light? That's were you should start. If the old lady can turn it on or off start knocking on her door at 1 & 2 AM and ask her to turn it off. You don't want to mean to the elderly, But there are still a lot of not so helples older people that are still asses. |
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Sacramento Dave wrote:
I thought of somthing els You said the power Co. came and replaced it so it must be there light? That's were you should start. If the old lady can turn it on or off start knocking on her door at 1 & 2 AM and ask her to turn it off. I would suggest that is not a very good idea. It is not likely to be looked on kindly by anyone, including the police and could be considered harassment and certainly is not going to win friends. Neighbors are neighbors and being friends is a good idea. You don't want to mean to the elderly, But there are still a lot of not so helples older people that are still asses. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. Thanks, John Call the power company and zoning and neighborhood code enforcement. Squeak that wheel. You may get a little relief. If not, there's always the old pellet rifle in the garage. Steve |
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wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. A tall hedge would probably do the trick. They take awhile to grow, so plant soon. Bob |
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A tall hedge would probably do the trick. They take awhile to grow, so plant soon. Bob " My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole " Thats one tall hedge. |
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Generally, I'm in agreement with those advocating the legal, civilised route- likely to be more effective in the long run, if slower. But I have a certain mischievous curiosity about what would happen if a water pistol of a certain size filled with, say, ice water were to accidentally be discharged on a hot bulb- it isn't shielded, is it? I mean, kids have been known to do such foolish things. |
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Sev wrote:
Generally, I'm in agreement with those advocating the legal, civilised route- likely to be more effective in the long run, if slower. But I have a certain mischievous curiosity about what would happen if a water pistol of a certain size filled with, say, ice water were to accidentally be discharged on a hot bulb- it isn't shielded, is it? I mean, kids have been known to do such foolish things. Mercury vapor lights are enclosed in a housing like automobile headlamps. They are designed for outddor use, so rain, snow, sleet, etc. have little effect on them. Even the pellet gun suggestion might take more than a single shot. Better with a .44 magnum. Let me add just another stupid solution to the problem. Kill the old lady! -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To Email, remove the double zeroes after 'at' |
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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... Sacramento Dave wrote: I thought of somthing els You said the power Co. came and replaced it so it must be there light? That's were you should start. If the old lady can turn it on or off start knocking on her door at 1 & 2 AM and ask her to turn it off. I would suggest that is not a very good idea. It is not likely to be looked on kindly by anyone, including the police and could be considered harassment and certainly is not going to win friends. Neighbors are neighbors and being friends is a good idea. You don't want to mean to the elderly, But there are still a lot of not so helples older people that are still asses. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit Joe's right. And don't do anything destructive. It's just going to come back on you, besides being illegal and unethical. It's too bad you don't have a better relationship with 'the old lady' and could talk with her. Explain your point of view calmly and stay calm even if she becomes unreasonable. Yes, there are mean folks of all ages but being older and alone causes many to become overly suspicious or downright paranaoid. I'm watching it happen in our family and it's not fun for anybody. |
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:49:04 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
wrote: wrote: .. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. Thanks, John Local laws are all different. I would suggest starting with the power company as they may take car of it as you suggest and they are likely to be familiar with the local regulations. Buy one of those million-candlepower spotlights. Aim it at the yard-light. If it's got a daylight sensor on it, that will turn the thing off. |
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willshak wrote: Mercury vapor lights are enclosed in a housing like automobile headlamps. They are designed for outddor use, so rain, snow, sleet, etc. have little effect on them. Even the pellet gun suggestion might take more than a single shot. Better with a .44 magnum. Let me add just another stupid solution to the problem. Kill the old lady! -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To Email, remove the double zeroes after 'at' Nobody's yet mentioned paintballs. How about some nice opaque color? Again, don't make the firing-source obvious. J |
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HeyBub wrote There is no law against being a "suspect," nor can you be arrested for "suspicion" of anything. ==================== Sure, tell that to the Duke Lacrosse team. |
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On 1 Jun 2006 10:32:10 -0700, wrote:
willshak wrote: Mercury vapor lights are enclosed in a housing like automobile headlamps. They are designed for outddor use, so rain, snow, sleet, etc. have little effect on them. Even the pellet gun suggestion might take more than a single shot. Better with a .44 magnum. Let me add just another stupid solution to the problem. Kill the old lady! -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To Email, remove the double zeroes after 'at' Nobody's yet mentioned paintballs. How about some nice opaque color? Again, don't make the firing-source obvious. J Unless they are truely the type filled with paint, most paintballs will not work. Stuff is soluable and biodegradeable. Gary Dyrkacz Radio Control Aircraft/Paintball Physics/Paintball for 40+ http://home.comcast.net/~dyrgcmn/ |
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-- Steve Barker wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. Thanks, John |
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"m Ransley" wrote in message
... If its brighter now a larger watt bulb was put in, there are local laws. It depends on how far you want to go with it, maybe a letter from you could explain it to her, maybe she could keep it off till an hour you are not outside. Neighbor fights can get nasty. Doubtful. An HID lamp is not likely to increase output with a higher wattage bulb. The power limiting effects of the ballast won't allow for that by much. More likely the HID lamp will never come up to operating temp and overheat the ballast. burning it out. Mercury bulbs can run for many years past their lifetime at greatly reduced output. When the new bulb got installed, it seems to be very bright. In response to the other post about shooting the light. For one thing it is unlawful and second, the outer envelope of the lamp may break while the inner arc tube remains intact. Without the outer envelope to block harmful UV radiation, the mercury lamp is a powerful emitter of UV that can damage the eyes and skin. A metal shield can be fitted to the lamp to block out much of the light in certain directions. John |
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Mys Terry wrote You are always arrested on "suspicion" of comitting a crime. It's suspicion until you get convicted. You can also be arrested for "Intention". They read you mind and just know you are thinking about doing something illegal. ============ I wasn't arrested, but I was once pulled over by a cop who said that he "knew" that I was going to roll through a stop sign if I hadn't seen him nearby. I politely asked if I had actually broken any laws. "No, not really." I politely asked how he "knew" that I intended to break the law. "I just know from experience." What a freakin' dumb ass. |
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Do the right thing .. ... best bet is to contact your local municipal authority (e.g., zoning office , code enforcement officer, etc.) Typically there are lighting ordinances which govern how much light should be visible. And in some cases, even the wattage of the bulb depending on the type of fixture, etc.
This can also include use of shields, etc. to prevent light penetration onto neighbors property. But I'm interested ... if the local power company is replacing the bulb, is it their light? If so .. this may complicate the situation. wrote in message oups.com... My next door neighbor has one of those big bright "barn yard" mercury vapor lights mounted up high on a 40ft. telephone pole (power company rented light). Recently, the bulb burned out in it; I thought this was great because my family could be outside at night or swimming in the pool without a glaring harsh light shining in our eyes and putting up with the old lady watching us through her cracked window blinds (thinking we can't see her; yeah right), but the power company came a few days ago and changed it, now it is 3X brighter then ever. It shines through my bedroom window blinds. My neighbor is an old lady who thinks someone will break into her house if she doesn't have a industrial light in her back yard, Frankly, I think she only has it there so she can watch what the neighbors are doing at night; thats all. There isn't much crime in my town. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. BTW: I told her about it; I asked her politely to do something about it, but she doesn't ever listen to anyone. Thanks, John |
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I live at the end of a long cul de sac and our streets in San Diego are
scantilly lit. However I am lucky (?) enough to have one of the three street lights on the block right outside my front door. They use this weird orangish bulb to cut down on light pollution for Mt Palomar observatory. They are shockingly bright when new. My front yard is lit up like a rock concert. It's kinda creepy at first as everything is color shifted. I don't like it but they aren't gonna switch to mercury vapor. |
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Goedjn wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:49:04 GMT, "Joseph Meehan" wrote: wrote: .. Could I call the power company to have it sheilded or disconnected? or to at least tell them to replace it with a normal-sized porch motion flood light? These damn lights are responsible for polluting the sky at night. Thanks, John Local laws are all different. I would suggest starting with the power company as they may take car of it as you suggest and they are likely to be familiar with the local regulations. Buy one of those million-candlepower spotlights. Aim it at the yard-light. If it's got a daylight sensor on it, that will turn the thing off. I use laser pointers, get that beam near the photo sensor and off it goes and they never know why |
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Mys Terry wrote:
Many years ago, a friend of mine was being followed around a department store by a security person, because he "didn't look right". In other words, it was the 1960's and he had long hair and a beard. My friend decided to respond by playfully ducking behind counters in an exaggerated manner, and generally playing cat and mouse with the jerk. The end of the story, however, was that he was arrested for "Intent to shoplift". He was convicted and had to pay a fine. I think he got a term of probation as well. Heh! The closest one can get today is "conspiracy" to do something. But "conspiracy" is an agreement between two or more to commit some unlawful act coupled with an affirmative act in furtherance of the conspiracy. "Intent" is often an element of an offense, but it is not an offense per se. For example: "burglary" is defined as the entering of a building (often a dwelling) with the intent to commit a felony or the crime of theft. Now the "intent" on the part of the accused burglar can often be inferred by a rational person (the TV, stereo, and jewlry were stacked by the front door...), but mere intent is never an offense - intent is often necessary, but intent alone is never sufficient to establish the crime. There must be some overt act as a necessary element of the offense. |
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Gideon wrote:
HeyBub wrote There is no law against being a "suspect," nor can you be arrested for "suspicion" of anything. ==================== Sure, tell that to the Duke Lacrosse team. The actual charges were First Degree Forcible Rape, First Degree Sexual Offense, and Kidnapping. To be arrested, one must be charged with an actual crime. There is no crime in North Carolina enumerated as "Suspicion of ...." anything. |
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"Intent" is often an element of an offense, but it is not an offense per se. For example: "burglary" is defined as the entering of a building (often a dwelling) with the intent to commit a felony or the crime of theft. Now the "intent" on the part of the accused burglar can often be inferred by a rational person (the TV, stereo, and jewlry were stacked by the front door...), but mere intent is never an offense - intent is often necessary, but intent alone is never sufficient to establish the crime. There must be some overt act as a necessary element of the offense. Bullcrap... What about all the alleged "child molestors" who are locked up for thirty years and labled sex offenders for life because they arrive at some police sting operation with the "intent" of having sex with a 15 year old girl. In reality there is no 15 year girl... she was made up by some police officer surfing on the Internet and up till the moment of arrest, no one was harmed. There is no victim. The person being arrested and convicted is being punished purely for their thoughts about what they might want to do or thought about doing, in other words, intent. Beachcomber |
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