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Hello:

Have to replace a deck railing, and want to use an
outdoor protected wood; the typical kind HD sells that has the greenish
tint.

If I do, any problem with painting over this type of wood of wood as
compared to a regular pine board without
this impregnation ? Do I need a special paint, or primer? Do I need a
primer at all ?

Might as well also ask: if I go with regular wood, but paint it heavily,
think I could get away with doing it, or is "outdoor wood" a real necessity
?

Thanks,
Bob


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You can have ours!

We are ripping out our deck and other pressure treated items.
It's all impregnated with arsenic. Very bad stuff.

I thought HD stopped selling that it. There are much better alternatives
that won't put you at risk for cancer.


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Hello:

Have to replace a deck railing, and want to use an
outdoor protected wood; the typical kind HD sells that has the greenish
tint.

If I do, any problem with painting over this type of wood of wood as
compared to a regular pine board without
this impregnation ? Do I need a special paint, or primer? Do I need a
primer at all ?

Might as well also ask: if I go with regular wood, but paint it heavily,
think I could get away with doing it, or is "outdoor wood" a real
necessity ?

Thanks,
Bob



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Home Depot as well as other places still sell it because there isn't
anything much better.

The wood is not dangerous as long as you know how to handle it.
(sort of like many things)

Cutting the wood is the most dangerous part. You need to do
it outside with a good miter saw. Doing it in the house is where
cutting it over and over it'll get into your lungs. Over time you
can have a problem.

If you want to paint it, make sure you let it bake a little outside.
The wood from Home Depot is pretty green and wet. Install it
and wait a week. Make sure that the wood is nice and dry
before you paint it. As for painting it, best bet is to go to your
local Benjaman Moore store and see what type of recommend
outdoor paint to use.

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On Tue, 9 May 2006 08:35:51 -0400, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello:

Have to replace a deck railing, and want to use an
outdoor protected wood; the typical kind HD sells that has the greenish
tint.


Might as well also ask: if I go with regular wood, but paint it heavily,
think I could get away with doing it, or is "outdoor wood" a real necessity
?



Depends on what you mean by "regular wood". If you start with
DECENT wood. (STuff that actually *IS* #2 or better, not just
whatever's left in the pile) then yes, untreated wood will work.
The point isn't to paint it "heavily", it's to paint it REGULARLY.


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HD did quit selling it. They were required to by law. However, the
stuff they sell is still green and it is treated now with something
else.

You can paint it. You should paint it. But you should let it sit for
6 months to a year to dry out first. These boards are pressure treated
and dipped when they are right off the tree. If you deck is new you
will be stunned at how much the boards willl shrink not only across the
face but sometimes end to end. I no longer build decks, and the reason
is that the material we buy is so poor that I wind up with a lot of
warranty work. I don't like the product and neither do my clients
after a couple of years.

But if I built a deck for myself, I would probably do one of two
things: try to find some kiln dried pressure treated and/or use
synthetic decking for the walking surface with wood for rails, steps,
etc. But kiln dried treated is hard to find and is usually quite
expensive. And the cost of synthetic material is so much it is scary.

OR, I would think about building an all wood deck with yellow pine as a
deck surface and treated for the rails, steps, etc. I have seen many
an old fashioned porch here in the south that have been made from
yellow pine that has been religiously painted and they are in great
shape after many decades. Be aware that you paint the YP only after it
has been down for a month or so, then prime it with a thinned coat of
deck paint. Then finish off with two coats of oil based exterior deck
paint and you should be good for a few years. You will need to
renew/recoat the walking surface, but the oil based deck paints are
surprising durable. Besides, you can roll out a deck in no time with a
4' extension.

Just my opinon. Others will certainly have theirs.

Robert



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The wood comes wet, needing maybe 6 months to dry, buy a cheap moisture
meter or you will never know if its dry enough. It could be dry enough
in a few weeks. Stain is better it breathes and should not peel.

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I no longer build decks, and the reason
is that the material we buy is so poor that I wind up with a lot of
warranty work. I don't like the product and neither do my clients
after a couple of years.

But if I built a deck for myself, I would probably do one of two
things: try to find some kiln dried pressure treated and/or use
synthetic decking for the walking surface with wood for rails, steps,
etc.


Why not use mahogany, ipe, or cypress? No chemicals, long lasting, high
quality. Expensive, but will last a very long time. I'm told Ipe will last
50+ years with no treatment, double that with some care like a coat of
Penofin every few years.


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Edwin Pawlowski:

Why not use mahogany, ipe, or cypress?


2nd that

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dont paint!

Use stain! Makes recoating easy!

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