alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed

"Larry F" wrote in message
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alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed

Yeah, if you want to get your ass FLAMED.

Why are people so mean on alt.hvac? Jeez what a bunch of jerks!



"Larry F" wrote in message
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alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed

Oscar_Lives wrote:
"Larry F" wrote in message

alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed

Yeah, if you want to get your ass FLAMED.

Wow. That must be horrible. I wonder if anyone has ever recovered
from some usenet boob bitching...

R

J.A. Michel wrote:

Why are people so mean on alt.hvac? Jeez what a bunch of jerks!

There are only a few idjits. Ignore them, they're harmless.

R

In article , J.A. Michel wrote:
Why are people so mean on alt.hvac? Jeez what a bunch of jerks!

That group has motivated someone to semi-officially (unofficially given
that alt.hvac has no official anything?) post a killfile for that group
that has at least largely only 3 or so notable bullies!

- Don Klipstein )

Larry F wrote:

alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed


ESR wrote instructions on how to ask questions the smart way.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Basically, do your homework--show you've put in some effort to answer your
own question. Nobody was born knowing everything; the people you're asking
to help you got help from someone in their past.
Most folks remember this and repay their debts by helping others. These are
the people you're looking for.

As for the assholes? People *do* have a right to be assholes if that's what
they want. Don't worry about them. Take what you need and leave the rest.
Keep coming back and more will be revealed to you when you are ready.

thrugoodmarshall wrote:

Take what you need and leave the rest.
Keep coming back and more will be revealed to you when you are ready.

Sounds like Master Po.

R

"RicodJour" wrote in message
ups.com...
thrugoodmarshall wrote:

Take what you need and leave the rest.
Keep coming back and more will be revealed to you when you are ready.

Sounds like Master Po.

Hey! Watch it!!!

;-]

J.A. Michel wrote:
Why are people so mean on alt.hvac?

Who knows. Some people enjoy having power over others. Maybe they're
afraid of losing their jobs. Maybe they need the power, because they
were the ones who almost flunked out of high school.

What I don't understand is...If they really don't enjoy helping
people...then why do they bother with usenet?

Mike

wrote:
afraid of losing their jobs. Maybe they need the power, because they

But on Usenet, nobody has power over anyone else, and so the jerk-offs
on alt.hvac ("Paul, "Bubba", and company) don't understand the concept
of Usenet.

What I don't understand is...If they really don't enjoy helping
people...then why do they bother with usenet?

To act out their psychopathic sadistic tendencies?

I think we should all stop posting here and go to althvac.

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"RicodJour" wrote in message
ups.com...
thrugoodmarshall wrote:

Take what you need and leave the rest.
Keep coming back and more will be revealed to you when you are ready.

Sounds like Master Po.

Hey! Watch it!!!

;-]

Anonymity is like alcohol. It brings out the worst in some people. It's in
every NG.

Bob

Bubba wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:26:28 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

I think we should all stop posting here and go to althvac.

Eat your wheaties this morning or something Ransley?
Feeling a little bold and wanting to play in the "big room"?
Not exactly a smart move but of course you are fee to play any "game"
you wish.
Have fun and I wish you luck
Bubba

Yet another content-free posting from the #1 jerk-off "Bubba" on
alt.hvac! Hey "Bubba', it's Ok if he wants to play in the "big room",
after all he doesn't have the pleasure of going to the "Big House" like
you!

Larry F wrote:
alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed

On most of the forums such as alt.hvac and web sites where "pros" are
posting, it seems like they flame DIYers especially if prices are
discussed. There is a fear of the free market. Hey' everybody else
works in a job market where market forces determine the price!
Therefore, if it is necessary to do so, don't hesitate to post prices.
Comparison shopping is good. Everyone understand that specific
circumstances may be different and all prices posted aren't comparable,
but more information is always good.

It is sad to see a few members of some groups play their little games -
that is what hiding behind an electronic network will do - bring out
the AH's. It also brings out people who have real expertise and offer
their expertise and knowledge to the rest of us.

Like to be able to meet some of these AH's - always wondered what their
problem(s) are - psych types call it compensation for an actual or
percieved problem. Ah well may the AH's depart the gene pool quickly.

this is Turtle.

The Mental Ownership of a piece of the internet is very great for
Possessive People. What person or set of People can say they own a part
of the internet. NONE but the ones who own it in their mines.

TURTLE

"alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed"

I posted a question there - and promptly got told by an AH that
consumers did not belong on that site. Several people jumped on his
greasy back.

I had a specific question - see below

Question posted on alt hvac
Am in planning stage of building a new home in S WI. Have talked to
several HVAC dealers - learned tube type HX are much more reliable than

clamshells - I suppose most agree with that.


Now are there differences between tube type HX's from manufacturer to
manufacturer. Most of the internal parts look very similiar - like
PC's - umpteen brands with very few manufacturer's of the basic parts.


Are there differences in types of HX tubes - if so which brand(s) are
better and why.

Responses seemed to indicate that there are differences in HX tube
design. Amen on the biggest priority being getting a system correctly
designed and installed. Now back to the question - which manufacturer
makes a better HX tube or on the flip side - whose should be avoided.
They all looked the same to me - there are some differences.

Thanks all

Thanks

butch burton wrote:
Now are there differences between tube type HX's from manufacturer to
...
Are there differences in types of HX tubes - if so which brand(s) are

Don't know which specific model/manufacturer is better, but it would be
reflected in the overall reliability of the model. Newer models use
different designs and materials (stainless, "Tufsteel", etc.), so the
reliability may vary year to year. As a homeowner, I don't think you
need be concerned about this aspect, and instead concentrate on a good
installer and warranty.

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:26:28 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

I think we should all stop posting here and go to althvac.

Good idea. You'll notice there are more and more positive post and
over the last few months is finally drowning out the few bad troll's
that was posted in the kill file.

Thier flames are going un noticed and resulting in better qualtiy
group.

Nexus7 wrote:
Larry F wrote:
alt.hvac is changing for the good.
All questions home owner or pro or DIY welcomed

On most of the forums such as alt.hvac and web sites where "pros" are
posting, it seems like they flame DIYers especially if prices are
discussed. There is a fear of the free market. Hey' everybody else
works in a job market where market forces determine the price!
Therefore, if it is necessary to do so, don't hesitate to post prices.
Comparison shopping is good. Everyone understand that specific
circumstances may be different and all prices posted aren't comparable,
but more information is always good.

There's a difference between good, useful information and useless
information. Comparing things like a computer or a car, where
everything is identical, is fine - there will still be regional
variations, but relatively small. It just doesn't work that way in
construction. The labor and material prices vary so widely from place
to place, even in the same state, that the numbers become pretty much
meaningless to someone from a different area.

R