John P.. Bengi wrote:

The Rinnai units are up to 199,000 BTU and can give 5
GPM at 70F rise.

How hot do you need your two simultaneous showers? I
doubt you shower at over 110F.


Jim Baber wrote:
I went through this analysis, and had a large cost of installation
on the Rinnai units. I would have had to replace over 300 feet of 1/2
inch gas pipe with 3/4 inch line, and paid the gas utility to replace my
meter. Also, my electric water heaters didn't have any roof venting,
but it would be required with the gas heaters. All together this all
would cost about $3,000 plus the heaters. I still have electric water
heaters (2), but they are now on a time of day clocks, restricting their
operation to off-peak power hours.

If I were building a new home I would use the Rinnai gas heaters as a
backup to solar domestic water heating.

"SQLit" wrote in message
...


"Bob Pietrangelo" wrote in


message


news

wrote in message



roups.com...


On-demand water heaters do not produce enough water


for multiple showers,


especially in the winter. They also are more prone


to mineral build-up in


the coils. I do not recommend them for anything


more than a small


apartment.



The total degree temp increase with colder input


water was the turn off for


me. Reading the specs of the various manufactures


was confusing at first


then it all made sense. That and in a city of over a


million people there


were no spare parts available.

I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched the Rinnai units to death.
Number one, the life expectancy of a Rinnai considering the water not being to hard
is about 20 years +. Number 2 the 2520 conitnum can run up to 2 showers and a third point of use
without any problem as long as the incoming water temp is not to low, I know because I have one.
Even if it the water temp is low they put out a constant temperature. They do this by reducing the flow.
You don't need parts for them because they don't break down often.
That said I have 2 parts suppliers near me. Of course it depends on where you live.
People that complain about them not putting out enough usually undersized the unit
Or had it installed without checking gas pressure and setting it properly.
I have 7 people in my house and I have the smaller 5.2 gallons per minute at 60 Degree rise
and it has no trouble keeping up. If mineral builds up in them the Rinnai has a lime sensor.
It will display an error code and tell you it's time to have it flushed. If you do this it's not a problem.
Tank heaters don't give you that warning. They burst and flood your room.
Most people I know that bought the proper size unit love them and would never switch back.
They take up little space and provide hot water continuously.
Like anything else results will vary according to hook up and other factors such as usage.

Now how in the hell is a unit according to you only suitable for an apartment when I have one supplying
a family of 7? My tank would never do that. You had to shut off the water and wait 25 minutes for recovery.
I can now fill the tub in one shot without waiting. The proper size unit will run 3 showers with no problem
and that's at 120F with a 70 degree rise. Even at an 80 degree rise the Rinnia 2532 can deliver 6 gallons a minute.
That's enough for almost 4 showers you fool. Please do your research before you make blanket statments.

Now because I do my research and am unbiased I will tell anyone that they are not nessacarly
an alternative to replacing a tank heater. The moral once again is do your homework to make sure it's for you.
There is no magic involved or deception on Rinnai's part. They provide flow curves and a temperature rise
chart. Measure your incoming water temp at it's coldest ,properly size, install it correctly and the unit and it will deliver what it says.
If not then you screwed up. Let me add that I am on a well system and the water stays around 50 in winter and a little higher in summer.
I can't stress enough about doing your homework and not listening to uninformed people on google.



"Jim Baber" wrote in message ...


John P.. Bengi wrote:

The Rinnai units are up to 199,000 BTU and can give 5
GPM at 70F rise.

How hot do you need your two simultaneous showers? I
doubt you shower at over 110F.
Jim Baber wrote:
I went through this analysis, and had a large cost of installation on the Rinnai units. I would have had to replace over 300 feet of 1/2 inch gas pipe with 3/4 inch line, and paid the gas utility to replace my meter. Also, my electric water heaters didn't have any roof venting, but it would be required with the gas heaters. All together this all would cost about $3,000 plus the heaters. I still have electric water heaters (2), but they are now on a time of day clocks, restricting their operation to off-peak power hours.

If I were building a new home I would use the Rinnai gas heaters as a backup to solar domestic water heating.

"SQLit" wrote in message
...
"Bob Pietrangelo" wrote in
message
news wrote in message

oups.com...
On-demand water heaters do not produce enough water
for multiple showers,
especially in the winter. They also are more prone
to mineral build-up in
the coils. I do not recommend them for anything
more than a small
apartment.

The total degree temp increase with colder input
water was the turn off for
me. Reading the specs of the various manufactures
was confusing at first
then it all made sense. That and in a city of over a
million people there
were no spare parts available.

Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched the
Rinnai units to death.

Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.


"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched the
Rinnai units to death.

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all he was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than you knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched the
Rinnai units to death.

I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my control.
as they say... **** happens.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all he was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched the
Rinnai units to death.

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my control.
as they say... **** happens.


Perhaps because you replied to someone (Jim Baber) that had originally
posted in HTML? It is quite a pain to reply to those that use HTML as many
facets of newsreaders get messed up. For example, the common practice of
indenting previous posters with a '' or some character to help separate out
each persons writing often quites and gets muddled when replying to HTML
posters.

Quite a pain.

daestrom

That's possible but I don't recall seing anything other then plain text.

"daestrom" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my control.
as they say... **** happens.


Perhaps because you replied to someone (Jim Baber) that had originally
posted in HTML? It is quite a pain to reply to those that use HTML as
many
facets of newsreaders get messed up. For example, the common practice of
indenting previous posters with a '' or some character to help separate
out
each persons writing often quites and gets muddled when replying to HTML
posters.

Quite a pain.

daestrom

"Drums" wrote in message
...
That's possible but I don't recall seing anything other then plain text.

If you're using OE (as I am), I only 'see' the plain text in Jim Baber's
post too. But the little icon in the upper corner shows an attachment, and
that is the HTML version.

So to recognize when someone has posted in HTML, I look for the attachement
icon (paperclip in OE). I don't open such attachments (I'm paranoid about
virii), but it tells me there is some HTML related.

Even today, when I go back and highlight Jim's message, and your first
reply, they show this 'attachment' icon and that there is some xxx.HTM file
attached.

daestrom

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I doubt seriously you are older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched the
Rinnai units to death.

Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a heating tech?
That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I doubt seriously you are older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not
posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched
the
Rinnai units to death.

It was exciting pluging that old handset into the ear
muffs at 300 baud and playing text based computer golf.

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past. Many
moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I
don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't
very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running a
BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET still
around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC"
wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link
you would know what that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...


--
Cats must spray mom's brand new $400
bread maker.

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a heating tech?
That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)



Actually, I own the company...I hire 19 year old 2nd year techs smarter than
you...most can actually admit they are wrong.
You care bubba..you replied.

Tell ya what, make fun of plumbers all ya want, but tell that to the one
down the road that just bought for Christmas, for his entire family,
each..(2 sons, 1 daughter, wife, and stepson) each a new Viper.
Not a big deal..no...but lets see..did you go drop almost $250,000 on your
wife let alone your entire family this season?

Flame on...the wife and I are going on our vacation this week...I wont have
time for your antics..Palm Springs is callin...

Oh...last thought...read up on those things we were using before you were
born...those things you cant comment on..deal with it youngin.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I doubt seriously you are older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not
posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I researched
the
Rinnai units to death.

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past. Many moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running a BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET still around?


The last post to the Fidonet newsletter was on 1-13-03...

Got a few BBS nodes running around...trick is finding them. Most of the old
ones are long gone and shut down about the same time that the Fidonet
newsletter died. Sites still up, but good luck finding much past 03.

CFN, DFN and the others that link to a few nodes are up and running, and
most of the old MUSE and MUCKs are still around someplace. WindsMARE was
being ran from a buddy of mines server in Cleveland for a long time with
permission from MIT. Barry Kort was allowing some of the code to be ran from
Devs system...not all, but some, and micro still exists, with Barry running
it.

NOI and I used to kill hours on microMUSE, but when things got out of hand
on there, Barry changed the format and it more or less died. Ill still
telnet in from time to time to talk to him, and see whats going on
personally in his life, but other than that...nada.



On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC" wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...


--
Cats must spray mom's brand new $400
bread maker.

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past. Many moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running a BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET still around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC" wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...


--
Cats must spray mom's brand new $400
bread maker.






Oh...one more thought..
We used to post real frequently from a BBS called "The Whale Zoo", Lynne
Edel (Miller) used to run it out of her home in Greensboro. Impressive setup
she had at the time..A C-64, 128, and several Amigas running it.
HAL, C-net64, Atredes, Skyline..Skyterm..Paragon...all spoken there.
Murder Motel...wow...yea..its been a while. That game that EVERYONE knew on
a BBS was developed by a guy from the Magic Foam BBS up the road...Steven
White IIRC, and another guy Sean something....the three got together and
worked on the module loads...most of it thought up at some REALLY wild damn
parties she threw..

It was a lot more exciting to plug into the VHF radio and run 1200 baud to
digipeaters, and nodes to see how far your could get before the ACK timed
out... farthest I ever got was from San Francisco to Ohio :-)

"SolarFlare" wrote in message
.. .
It was exciting pluging that old handset into the ear
muffs at 300 baud and playing text based computer golf.

"Steve Scott" wrote in message
...
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past. Many
moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I
don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't
very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running a
BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET still
around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC"
wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link
you would know what that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...


--
Cats must spray mom's brand new $400
bread maker.

"SolarFlare" wrote in message
.. .
It was exciting pluging that old handset into the ear
muffs at 300 baud and playing text based computer golf.


Or checking the logs the following morning to see if UUCP had managed to
download/copy files overnight ;-)

daestrom

I know all about Fidonet and Im not impressed that you are going on
vacation.
I could be childish like you and say I have millions of dollars but that
would be stooping to your level.
I have a job where I can come and go as I please and do what ever I want.
FYI I dropped 250 on my wife and she stays around anyway. That's what
happens when you have
a large penis. ;o) Further more If I had 250k I would give it to people
that need it. Good thing you have all that money so you buy Viagra. Send
your wife my love. ;o)
Just because you run a business don't think you're any smarter than I am.
;o)
Your techs are not smarter then me either. I have 50 times the knowledge and
skills they do.
Your ****ing jaw would drop if you knew what I knew. I work with people
that have PHD's
all day long. At least I have an excuse for bragging. If you are as old as
you claim to be you need to serioulsy
grow the **** up not me. Go enjoy your vaction troll boy.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a heating tech?
That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)



Actually, I own the company...I hire 19 year old 2nd year techs smarter
than
you...most can actually admit they are wrong.
You care bubba..you replied.

Tell ya what, make fun of plumbers all ya want, but tell that to the one
down the road that just bought for Christmas, for his entire family,
each..(2 sons, 1 daughter, wife, and stepson) each a new Viper.
Not a big deal..no...but lets see..did you go drop almost $250,000 on your
wife let alone your entire family this season?

Flame on...the wife and I are going on our vacation this week...I wont
have
time for your antics..Palm Springs is callin...

Oh...last thought...read up on those things we were using before you were
born...those things you cant comment on..deal with it youngin.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my
control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I doubt seriously you are
older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all
he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than
you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on
track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not
posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I
researched
the
Rinnai units to death.

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I know all about Fidonet and Im not impressed that you are going on
vacation.
I could be childish like you and say I have millions of dollars but that
would be stooping to your level.
I have a job where I can come and go as I please and do what ever I want.
FYI I dropped 250 on my wife and she stays around anyway. That's what
happens when you have
a large penis. ;o)

Thats what she said to me too....wow...


Further more If I had 250k I would give it to people
that need it. Good thing you have all that money so you buy Viagra. Send
your wife my love. ;o)
Just because you run a business don't think you're any smarter than I am.
;o)
Your techs are not smarter then me either. I have 50 times the knowledge
and
skills they do.
Your ****ing jaw would drop if you knew what I knew. I work with people
that have PHD's
all day long. At least I have an excuse for bragging. If you are as old
as
you claim to be you need to serioulsy
grow the **** up not me. Go enjoy your vaction troll boy.

You bit..cross posting whore.
Oh..wait....no..nevermind.
I wont get more personal.


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a heating tech?
That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)



Actually, I own the company...I hire 19 year old 2nd year techs smarter
than
you...most can actually admit they are wrong.
You care bubba..you replied.

Tell ya what, make fun of plumbers all ya want, but tell that to the one
down the road that just bought for Christmas, for his entire family,
each..(2 sons, 1 daughter, wife, and stepson) each a new Viper.
Not a big deal..no...but lets see..did you go drop almost $250,000 on
your
wife let alone your entire family this season?

Flame on...the wife and I are going on our vacation this week...I wont
have
time for your antics..Palm Springs is callin...

Oh...last thought...read up on those things we were using before you were
born...those things you cant comment on..deal with it youngin.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I have been around usenet before you knew what a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or anything within my
control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I doubt seriously you are
older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a good little boy, and all
he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats been around longer than
you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get the group back on
track,
follow standard posting practice and set an example....like, not
posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums" wrote in message
...
I love blanket retarded statements. They amuse me. I
researched
the
Rinnai units to death.

Man! You work with all artseys?...LOL

I need to talk about Rinnai units with you!

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I know all about Fidonet and Im not impressed that
you are going on
vacation.
I could be childish like you and say I have millions
of dollars but that
would be stooping to your level.
I have a job where I can come and go as I please and
do what ever I want.
FYI I dropped 250 on my wife and she stays around
anyway. That's what
happens when you have
a large penis. ;o) Further more If I had 250k I
would give it to people
that need it. Good thing you have all that money so
you buy Viagra. Send
your wife my love. ;o)
Just because you run a business don't think you're
any smarter than I am.
;o)
Your techs are not smarter then me either. I have 50
times the knowledge and
skills they do.
Your ****ing jaw would drop if you knew what I knew.
I work with people
that have PHD's
all day long. At least I have an excuse for
bragging. If you are as old as
you claim to be you need to serioulsy
grow the **** up not me. Go enjoy your vaction troll
boy.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in
message
...
Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a
heating tech?
That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)



Actually, I own the company...I hire 19 year old
2nd year techs smarter
than
you...most can actually admit they are wrong.
You care bubba..you replied.

Tell ya what, make fun of plumbers all ya want, but
tell that to the one
down the road that just bought for Christmas, for
his entire family,
each..(2 sons, 1 daughter, wife, and stepson) each
a new Viper.
Not a big deal..no...but lets see..did you go drop
almost $250,000 on your
wife let alone your entire family this season?

Flame on...the wife and I are going on our vacation
this week...I wont
have
time for your antics..Palm Springs is callin...

Oh...last thought...read up on those things we were
using before you were
born...those things you cant comment on..deal with
it youngin.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in
message

...
I have been around usenet before you knew what
a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it
never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or
anything within my
control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said
Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I
doubt seriously you are
older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in
message

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Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a
shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a
good little boy, and all
he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats
been around longer than
you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get
the group back on
track,
follow standard posting practice and set an
example....like, not
posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in
message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums"
wrote in message

...
I love blanket retarded statements. They
amuse me. I
researched
the
Rinnai units to death.

Well if you intend on getting one you might find I know more then the idiots
who claim to sell and install them. ;o)


"SolarFlare" wrote in message
.. .
Man! You work with all artseys?...LOL

I need to talk about Rinnai units with you!

"Drums" wrote in message
...
I know all about Fidonet and Im not impressed that
you are going on
vacation.
I could be childish like you and say I have millions
of dollars but that
would be stooping to your level.
I have a job where I can come and go as I please and
do what ever I want.
FYI I dropped 250 on my wife and she stays around
anyway. That's what
happens when you have
a large penis. ;o) Further more If I had 250k I
would give it to people
that need it. Good thing you have all that money so
you buy Viagra. Send
your wife my love. ;o)
Just because you run a business don't think you're
any smarter than I am.
;o)
Your techs are not smarter then me either. I have 50
times the knowledge and
skills they do.
Your ****ing jaw would drop if you knew what I knew.
I work with people
that have PHD's
all day long. At least I have an excuse for
bragging. If you are as old as
you claim to be you need to serioulsy
grow the **** up not me. Go enjoy your vaction troll
boy.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in
message
...
Who cares what you doubt. Ooooh what are you, a
heating tech?
That's about a step above a plumber. ;o)



Actually, I own the company...I hire 19 year old
2nd year techs smarter
than
you...most can actually admit they are wrong.
You care bubba..you replied.

Tell ya what, make fun of plumbers all ya want, but
tell that to the one
down the road that just bought for Christmas, for
his entire family,
each..(2 sons, 1 daughter, wife, and stepson) each
a new Viper.
Not a big deal..no...but lets see..did you go drop
almost $250,000 on your
wife let alone your entire family this season?

Flame on...the wife and I are going on our vacation
this week...I wont
have
time for your antics..Palm Springs is callin...

Oh...last thought...read up on those things we were
using before you were
born...those things you cant comment on..deal with
it youngin.

"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in
message

...
I have been around usenet before you knew what
a keyboard was
and outlook is not set to post html and it
never was.
So if this happened it was not my doing or
anything within my
control.
as they say... **** happens.

I doubt that seriously...

But then, I doubt seriously if someone said
Q-Link you would know what
that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...

Ya aint been on Usenet before 1980....and I
doubt seriously you are
older
than 19 by your posting here.

Yawn..as boring as a Bourne Shell.....


"CBHVAC" wrote in message
...

"Drums" wrote in
message

...
Please don't tell me what to post Adolph.
If it bothers you that much go see a
shrink.

Notice you changed it to plain text like a
good little boy, and all
he
was
telling you was basic Usenet policy, thats
been around longer than
you
knew
what Road Runner was.

I mean, since all you ****y bitches wanna get
the group back on
track,
follow standard posting practice and set an
example....like, not
posting
your bull**** HTML.




"Oscar_Lives" wrote in
message
news:SBnsf.660950$_o.643808@attbi_s71...
Please don't crosspost this crap.

Do not post in HTML.

You are retarded.


"Drums"
wrote in message

...
I love blanket retarded statements. They
amuse me. I
researched
the
Rinnai units to death.

Yes, I am finding this out.
Tell me please.

Do they have any pumps inside?
Heat exhangers
Hot water heating loop?
Can the set temperature be controlled from a millivolt
or milliamp input...say from a thermostat controller?
I take it they do not suffer from thermal shock from
incoming chill?
Is the vent kit just a dual walled pipe for venting?
What is the aprox. delay in hot water need
recognition, where the unit "kicks in"?


Thanx

"Drums" wrote in message
...
Well if you intend on getting one you might find I
know more then the idiots
who claim to sell and install them. ;o)

Steve Scott wrote:
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past. Many moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running a BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET still around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC" wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what that
was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...




Did the packet radio BBS on commode 64 years ago. Still have the TNC
somewhere.

Moved to BBS on pc with 4 dialup lines on a rocket port, then switched
to webservers in '94

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html

"Steve Spence" wrote in message
...
Steve Scott wrote:
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past. Many moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running a BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET still around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC" wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link you would know what
that was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...




Did the packet radio BBS on commode 64 years ago. Still have the TNC
somewhere.

I built my modom inside the C-64 keyboard, and used a software TNC with
Digipeat/BBS/Nodes. At that point, Fido was a dogs name.

Moved to BBS on pc with 4 dialup lines on a rocket port, then switched to
webservers in '94

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html

My earmuff modem was hooked to a homemade modem circuit
running off a 6800D2 kit with hex keypad into a
Heathkit terminal. 2K or ram memory was a pipe dream
for me.

"Noon-Air" wrote in message
. ..

"Steve Spence" wrote in
message
...
Steve Scott wrote:
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past.
Many moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I
don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't
very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running
a BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET
still around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC"
wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link
you would know what
that was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...




Did the packet radio BBS on commode 64 years ago.
Still have the TNC
somewhere.

I built my modom inside the C-64 keyboard, and used a
software TNC with
Digipeat/BBS/Nodes. At that point, Fido was a dogs
name.

Moved to BBS on pc with 4 dialup lines on a rocket
port, then switched to
webservers in '94

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html

I built my modem with an XR2206/XR2211 chip set on a pair of 2inch sq
experimenter boards....the whole thing cost less than $5 to build... it ran
off the internal power of the computer. A couple of years later I upgraded
and built a modem with an AMD-7910 chip.

"SolarFlare" wrote in message
.. .
My earmuff modem was hooked to a homemade modem circuit
running off a 6800D2 kit with hex keypad into a
Heathkit terminal. 2K or ram memory was a pipe dream
for me.

"Noon-Air" wrote in message
. ..

"Steve Spence" wrote in
message
...
Steve Scott wrote:
FidoNET. Talk about a blast from the past.
Many moons ago I ran
a BBS on an Atari ST. Hooked it into FidoNET. I
don't even recall
what software I used to do that now, but it wasn't
very user friendly.
What a pain in the butt. Then went to running
a BBS on a PC with
WildCat. MUCH easier. Multi-node with DesQview.

I haven't been on a BBS in so long. Is FidoNET
still around?

On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:12:39 -0500, "CBHVAC"
wrote:


But then, I doubt seriously if someone said Q-Link
you would know what
that was...or....
Fidonet
ARPANET
USENIX...




Did the packet radio BBS on commode 64 years ago.
Still have the TNC
somewhere.

I built my modom inside the C-64 keyboard, and used a
software TNC with
Digipeat/BBS/Nodes. At that point, Fido was a dogs
name.

Moved to BBS on pc with 4 dialup lines on a rocket
port, then switched to
webservers in '94

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html

ewwww. We have many 7910 and 7911 chips still in use in
our MAN system at work.

"Noon-Air" wrote in message
...
I built my modem with an XR2206/XR2211 chip set on a
pair of 2inch sq
experimenter boards....the whole thing cost less than
$5 to build... it ran
off the internal power of the computer. A couple of
years later I upgraded
and built a modem with an AMD-7910 chip.

I did figure out that you can call the manufacturer and tell them you want
to experiment with XX chip or chipset, and they will send you some in the
mail for free :-)

"SolarFlare" wrote in message
...
ewwww. We have many 7910 and 7911 chips still in use in
our MAN system at work.

"Noon-Air" wrote in message
...
I built my modem with an XR2206/XR2211 chip set on a
pair of 2inch sq
experimenter boards....the whole thing cost less than
$5 to build... it ran
off the internal power of the computer. A couple of
years later I upgraded
and built a modem with an AMD-7910 chip.