I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

Three hours of use? It must be under warranty unless you bought it used.
Hot to proceed? Take it back to the dealer.

I will certainly do that (and it is indeed under warranty), but putting
it out of service during the lawn's active season is something I hoped
to avoid. Is there perhaps some kind of adjustment to the drive
mechanism that I can try?

Replace the V-belt.

--

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Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

Where did you buy it at?

take it back for a replacement or re-fund?

Tom
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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

Where's the V-belt?

my self propelled mower would sometimes have the cable that turns on the
self propel slip. Seems like I had to adjust the tension and (I think)
jury rig some spring that was gone that pulled a lever or something also
attached to the cable.


paul

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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

Way too many variables. Some:

1) the cable/linkage between the handle and the transmission
2) The drive belt between the engine and the transmission
3) Shot tranny
4) etc.

I'm guessing Toro has an 800 CS number you could call to see if there's any
user adjustments? Or RTFM?

-Tim

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I will certainly do that (and it is indeed under warranty), but putting
it out of service during the lawn's active season is something I hoped
to avoid. Is there perhaps some kind of adjustment to the drive
mechanism that I can try?


Check for some sort of tensioning spring that may have come off or is
binding.

But I wouldn't play with it at all if it's under warranty.

It may not propel itself but you should still be able to push it manually,
and cut your grass.

Bring it in for service and even if it takes a few weeks your lawn is hardly
going to turn into a jungle.

AMUN

On 9/18/2005 4:37 PM US(ET), took fingers to
keyboard, and typed the following:

I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?


I don't know anything about the Toro, but my 20+ year old Craftsman has
a chain drive between the motor base and front wheel drive unit. The
chain has slipped off the gears when the chain stretched and/or the
screws on the adjustment bracket came loose due to vibration.

--
Bill

On 18 Sep 2005 13:37:40 -0700, wrote in
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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

Do you have an owner's manual? My (much older) Toro has detailed
instructions for maintenance and adjustments. One that I've had to make
often was the cable that controls the wheel drive. Apparently it tends
to slip fairly easily. It's a really trivial adjustment, and you
shouldn't need to pack the thing up and truck it back to the store.

--
Dick Yuknavech

Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built into the
User?

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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

I had exactly the same experience (three hour, more or less, stall) with my
Sear's Craftsman. I expect the mechanisms are much the same. I found a
simple, no tools, adjustment in the manual. Instructions were also decaled
on the handlebar controller.

Squeezing the control cable increases the effective diameter of a split
v-pulley, first taking up the slack on the v-belt and then increasing the
drive speed. There is apparently some initial wearing in of the parts
requiring an early adjustment. In two years, I have not had to make another
adjustment after that initial one.

SJF

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I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on
how to proceed?

I had exactly the same experience (three hour, more or less, stall) with
my Sear's Craftsman. I expect the mechanisms are much the same. I found
a simple, no tools, adjustment in the manual. Instructions were also
decaled on the handlebar controller.

Squeezing the control cable increases the effective diameter of a split
v-pulley, first taking up the slack on the v-belt and then increasing the
drive speed. There is apparently some initial wearing in of the parts
requiring an early adjustment. In two years, I have not had to make
another adjustment after that initial one.

SJF


Correction --

Just checked my mower manual. For those who care about details, squeezing
the control cable creates tension on the v-belt engaging the drive and then
changing the drive ratio by spreading the halves of a split v-pulley. This
is the way I read it.

SJF

We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped working.

I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some design flaw to mess up this quickly.

I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this quickly does not seem right.

Rae

I have a Sears, which is, I think, a Toro clone.
If both wheels stopped propelling, it's probably the main linkage, proly
somthing simple like a slipped cotter pin.

In my case, vines got bound up in one front wheel, and bent it, causing a
nylon sprocket to "miss" the planetary-type gear on the rim on one wheel.
Took a while to figger out, but bending the wheel bracket back solved it.

Yeah, not that spectacularly well made, but I'm getting used to it.
Pretty classy, tho, that the dealer is coming out to you--impressive.

Pushing a self-propelled is some workout, eh?
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"Rae" wrote in message
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Wrote:
I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine,
blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed
to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions
on
how to proceed?

We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on
June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has
been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too
hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing
it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these
type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it
worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one
and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped
working.

I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never
had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I
think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I
think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self
propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether
you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge
them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some
design flaw to mess up this quickly.

I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want
my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That
is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this
quickly does not seem right.

Rae




--
Rae

Oh, to the OP, you just gotta start taking things apart from the cable end.
Cable might have popped loose, might be a lovejoy coupling that sheared/fell
off, or a cotter pin, maybe a stripped gear (which you might be able to
hear), etc.
Otherwise, give toro a call.
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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"Rae" wrote in message
...

Wrote:
I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine,
blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed
to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions
on
how to proceed?

We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on
June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has
been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too
hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing
it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these
type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it
worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one
and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped
working.

I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never
had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I
think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I
think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self
propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether
you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge
them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some
design flaw to mess up this quickly.

I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want
my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That
is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this
quickly does not seem right.

Rae




--
Rae

"Rae" wrote in message
...

Wrote:
I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine,
blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is
supposed
to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any
suggestions
on
how to proceed?

We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on
June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has
been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too
hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS
pushing
it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with
these
type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know
it
worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day
one
and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped
working.

I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago
never
had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type
which I
think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you.
I
think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old
self
propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether
you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to
nudge
them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has
some
design flaw to mess up this quickly.

I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just
want
my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong.
That
is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this
quickly does not seem right.

My toro has had a problem twice something jumped out of its hole on
the handle, causing the handle assembly to bind, and the drive not to
engage. It only took a moment to pop it back into place.

Bob

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:27:55 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Oh, to the OP, you just gotta start taking things apart from the cable end.

Not if it is only 3 hours old. Give the dealer a call.

Cable might have popped loose, might be a lovejoy coupling that sheared/fell
off, or a cotter pin, maybe a stripped gear (which you might be able to
hear), etc.
Otherwise, give toro a call.
--

Bob F wrote:

"Rae" wrote in message
...

Wrote:
I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine,
blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is
supposed
to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any
suggestions
on
how to proceed?

We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on
June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has
been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too
hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS
pushing
it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with
these
type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know
it
worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day
one
and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped
working.

I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago
never
had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type
which I
think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you.
I
think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old
self
propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether
you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to
nudge
them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has
some
design flaw to mess up this quickly.

I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just
want
my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong.
That
is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this
quickly does not seem right.

My toro has had a problem twice something jumped out of its hole on
the handle, causing the handle assembly to bind, and the drive not to
engage. It only took a moment to pop it back into place.

Bob

You probably just need to adjust the self-propel cable. Read the owner's
manual for how to do it -- it's very easy. Maybe whoever assembled the
mower didn't tighten the nut on the handle that holds the cable in
place.

It's also possible that the self propel cable snapped off but unlikely
on a new mower -- mine did but my mower is 7 years old. A new cable is
easy to install.

I guess it's also possible that the drive belt either broke or slipped
off but, again, unlikely on a new machine.

The Toro Super Recycler is a great machine.

"Ermalina" wrote in message
...
Bob F wrote:

"Rae" wrote in message
...

Wrote:
I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower
stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs
fine,
blade
cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is
supposed
to
start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any
suggestions
on
how to proceed?

We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower
on
June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband
has
been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working
too
hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS
pushing
it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with
these
type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I
know
it
worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between
day
one
and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped
working.

I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago
never
had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type
which I
think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with
you.
I
think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old
self
propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever,
whether
you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to
nudge
them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has
some
design flaw to mess up this quickly.

I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just
want
my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's
wrong.
That
is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair
this
quickly does not seem right.

My toro has had a problem twice something jumped out of its hole on
the handle, causing the handle assembly to bind, and the drive not
to
engage. It only took a moment to pop it back into place.

Bob

You probably just need to adjust the self-propel cable. Read the
owner's
manual for how to do it -- it's very easy. Maybe whoever assembled
the
mower didn't tighten the nut on the handle that holds the cable in
place.

It's also possible that the self propel cable snapped off but
unlikely
on a new mower -- mine did but my mower is 7 years old. A new cable
is
easy to install.

I guess it's also possible that the drive belt either broke or
slipped
off but, again, unlikely on a new machine.

The Toro Super Recycler is a great machine.

You're speaking to the O.P. I assume?

Bob

Good point.
Mebbe like the other poster, the dealer will come over to the house!
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Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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"mm" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:27:55 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote:

Oh, to the OP, you just gotta start taking things apart from the cable
end.

Not if it is only 3 hours old. Give the dealer a call.

Cable might have popped loose, might be a lovejoy coupling that
sheared/fell
off, or a cotter pin, maybe a stripped gear (which you might be able to
hear), etc.
Otherwise, give toro a call.
--

I got a brand NEW mower from WM. "Out of the box" the drive didn't work.

As it is a 2 hour round trip back to the store, I investigated it myself and
found that the outside portion of the drive control cable wasn't properly
install and had gotten loose from the frame. I "fixed" it with one of
those plastic wire ties used for bundling electric wires.

There isn't much to these drive systems: just a belt to the "transmission"
and something you control that changes the tension on the belt.