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Toro Mower won't self-propel
I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped
self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? |
wrote in message oups.com... I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? Three hours of use? It must be under warranty unless you bought it used. Hot to proceed? Take it back to the dealer. |
I will certainly do that (and it is indeed under warranty), but putting
it out of service during the lawn's active season is something I hoped to avoid. Is there perhaps some kind of adjustment to the drive mechanism that I can try? |
Replace the V-belt.
-- Christopher A. Young Do good work. It's longer in the short run but shorter in the long run. .. .. wrote in message oups.com... I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? |
Where did you buy it at?
take it back for a replacement or re-fund? Tom wrote in message oups.com... I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? |
Where's the V-belt?
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my self propelled mower would sometimes have the cable that turns on the
self propel slip. Seems like I had to adjust the tension and (I think) jury rig some spring that was gone that pulled a lever or something also attached to the cable. paul |
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oups.com... I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? Way too many variables. Some: 1) the cable/linkage between the handle and the transmission 2) The drive belt between the engine and the transmission 3) Shot tranny 4) etc. I'm guessing Toro has an 800 CS number you could call to see if there's any user adjustments? Or RTFM? -Tim |
wrote in message oups.com... I will certainly do that (and it is indeed under warranty), but putting it out of service during the lawn's active season is something I hoped to avoid. Is there perhaps some kind of adjustment to the drive mechanism that I can try? Check for some sort of tensioning spring that may have come off or is binding. But I wouldn't play with it at all if it's under warranty. It may not propel itself but you should still be able to push it manually, and cut your grass. Bring it in for service and even if it takes a few weeks your lawn is hardly going to turn into a jungle. AMUN |
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wrote in message oups.com... I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? I had exactly the same experience (three hour, more or less, stall) with my Sear's Craftsman. I expect the mechanisms are much the same. I found a simple, no tools, adjustment in the manual. Instructions were also decaled on the handlebar controller. Squeezing the control cable increases the effective diameter of a split v-pulley, first taking up the slack on the v-belt and then increasing the drive speed. There is apparently some initial wearing in of the parts requiring an early adjustment. In two years, I have not had to make another adjustment after that initial one. SJF |
"SJF" wrote in message news:3%BXe.81121$DW1.40269@fed1read06... wrote in message oups.com... I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? I had exactly the same experience (three hour, more or less, stall) with my Sear's Craftsman. I expect the mechanisms are much the same. I found a simple, no tools, adjustment in the manual. Instructions were also decaled on the handlebar controller. Squeezing the control cable increases the effective diameter of a split v-pulley, first taking up the slack on the v-belt and then increasing the drive speed. There is apparently some initial wearing in of the parts requiring an early adjustment. In two years, I have not had to make another adjustment after that initial one. SJF Correction -- Just checked my mower manual. For those who care about details, squeezing the control cable creates tension on the v-belt engaging the drive and then changing the drive ratio by spreading the halves of a split v-pulley. This is the way I read it. SJF |
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I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some design flaw to mess up this quickly. I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this quickly does not seem right. Rae |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
Oh, to the OP, you just gotta start taking things apart from the cable end.
Cable might have popped loose, might be a lovejoy coupling that sheared/fell off, or a cotter pin, maybe a stripped gear (which you might be able to hear), etc. Otherwise, give toro a call. -- ------ Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message: Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican. Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way* to Materially Improve Your Family's Life. The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive! entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie, all d'numbuhs "Rae" wrote in message ... Wrote: I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped working. I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some design flaw to mess up this quickly. I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this quickly does not seem right. Rae -- Rae |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
"Rae" wrote in message ... Wrote: I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped working. I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some design flaw to mess up this quickly. I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this quickly does not seem right. My toro has had a problem twice something jumped out of its hole on the handle, causing the handle assembly to bind, and the drive not to engage. It only took a moment to pop it back into place. Bob |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:27:55 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
wrote: Oh, to the OP, you just gotta start taking things apart from the cable end. Not if it is only 3 hours old. Give the dealer a call. Cable might have popped loose, might be a lovejoy coupling that sheared/fell off, or a cotter pin, maybe a stripped gear (which you might be able to hear), etc. Otherwise, give toro a call. -- |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
Bob F wrote:
"Rae" wrote in message ... Wrote: I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped working. I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some design flaw to mess up this quickly. I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this quickly does not seem right. My toro has had a problem twice something jumped out of its hole on the handle, causing the handle assembly to bind, and the drive not to engage. It only took a moment to pop it back into place. Bob You probably just need to adjust the self-propel cable. Read the owner's manual for how to do it -- it's very easy. Maybe whoever assembled the mower didn't tighten the nut on the handle that holds the cable in place. It's also possible that the self propel cable snapped off but unlikely on a new mower -- mine did but my mower is 7 years old. A new cable is easy to install. I guess it's also possible that the drive belt either broke or slipped off but, again, unlikely on a new machine. The Toro Super Recycler is a great machine. |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
"Ermalina" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: "Rae" wrote in message ... Wrote: I have a 22" Toro Personal Pace Recycler mower. The mower stopped self-propelling after about three hours of use (engine runs fine, blade cuts fine). When the operator pushes on the handle, this is supposed to start the mower moving forward, but nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to proceed? We just got a Toro Super Recycler 2055 model (self-propel) mower on June 9. I don't know when it stopped working because my husband has been using it but I noticed today he looked like he was working too hard, and having to push it. I stopped him and tried it. He WAS pushing it because the self propel does NOT work. He wasn't familiar with these type of mowers so no telling when it stopped self propelling. I know it worked on day one when we first tried it. But some time between day one and now, less than 30 days, the self propel feature has stopped working. I'm really surprised because my Toro in the past I had years ago never had this problem. It was self propelled as opposed to this type which I think they call walk behind. This is supposed to keep pace with you. I think its desgined differently. If I remember correctly, the old self propelled mowers would go if you pulled on the propel lever, whether you were walking behind it or not, whereas these need a user to nudge them and stop working if you let go. Whatever, it apparently has some design flaw to mess up this quickly. I'm very disappointed. Spent over $500 on this thing. Now I just want my money back. Dealer is coming out this week to see what's wrong. That is nice but I hope we're not stuck with a lemon. To need repair this quickly does not seem right. My toro has had a problem twice something jumped out of its hole on the handle, causing the handle assembly to bind, and the drive not to engage. It only took a moment to pop it back into place. Bob You probably just need to adjust the self-propel cable. Read the owner's manual for how to do it -- it's very easy. Maybe whoever assembled the mower didn't tighten the nut on the handle that holds the cable in place. It's also possible that the self propel cable snapped off but unlikely on a new mower -- mine did but my mower is 7 years old. A new cable is easy to install. I guess it's also possible that the drive belt either broke or slipped off but, again, unlikely on a new machine. The Toro Super Recycler is a great machine. You're speaking to the O.P. I assume? Bob |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
Good point.
Mebbe like the other poster, the dealer will come over to the house! -- ------ Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message: Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican. Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way* to Materially Improve Your Family's Life. The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive! entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie, all d'numbuhs "mm" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:27:55 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®" wrote: Oh, to the OP, you just gotta start taking things apart from the cable end. Not if it is only 3 hours old. Give the dealer a call. Cable might have popped loose, might be a lovejoy coupling that sheared/fell off, or a cotter pin, maybe a stripped gear (which you might be able to hear), etc. Otherwise, give toro a call. -- |
Toro Mower won't self-propel
I got a brand NEW mower from WM. "Out of the box" the drive didn't work.
As it is a 2 hour round trip back to the store, I investigated it myself and found that the outside portion of the drive control cable wasn't properly install and had gotten loose from the frame. I "fixed" it with one of those plastic wire ties used for bundling electric wires. There isn't much to these drive systems: just a belt to the "transmission" and something you control that changes the tension on the belt. |
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