I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!!
It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill
in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same
information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have
been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info
into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy
would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had
a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a
fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????

Dr. Hardcrab wrote:
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!!
It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill
in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same
information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have
been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info
into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy
would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had
a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a
fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????

http://hvaccomputer.com/talkref.asp

I'm not advertising this program, but I'm certainly recommending it. Try
the free trial version.

hvacrmedic

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!!
It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7,
fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the
same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there
have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of
the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then
another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he
had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was
basically a fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????


Contact Paul....seriously.

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing
through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It
takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in
form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same
information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have
been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info
into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy
would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a
program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a
fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one.
Any suggestions????


Contact Paul....seriously.


This is Turtle

No , I would not trust him no farther that i could spit.

TURTLE

"TURTLE" wrote in message
.. .

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's
called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it
SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type
this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever
spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage
out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour
putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2
ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3
ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he
had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was
basically a fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????


Contact Paul....seriously.


This is Turtle

No , I would not trust him no farther that i could spit.

TURTLE

Then in this case...you would really be mising out..but then, I doubt that
you would want 4D stuff with some really good detailed printouts....you just
want to rape the old guy and go on.
Let it go Terry....this is one you wont win.

Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post
is "blow me". That's your customer support.




"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it
SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this,
hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit
out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out.
But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour
putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2
ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he
had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was
basically a fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????


Contact Paul....seriously.

Post your question in forum: http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/
This is an excellent forum where many very good HVAC contractors visit
frequently. You most definatelly will get many recommendations.

Regards,


"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!!
It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7,
fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the
same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there
have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of
the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then
another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he
had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was
basically a fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????

"No" wrote in message
...
Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second
post is "blow me". That's your customer support.



Actually, no...

Blow me is the reply in teh alt.hvac group, that has nothing to do with
homeowners.

however, if you are taking his postings, rantings, etc, personal, you would
indeed be missing out on a good program hes got....but then, if I took
everything personal that anyone ever did, or said, I would never answer a
single service call....but thats me...



"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's
called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it
SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type
this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever
spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage
out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour
putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2
ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3
ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he
had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was
basically a fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????


Contact Paul....seriously.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:02:21 +0900, tm wrote:

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote:
"No" wrote

Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second
post is "blow me". That's your customer support.

Blow me twice every third post. I'll leave the math to you.


Actually, no...

Blow me is the reply in teh alt.hvac group, that has nothing to do with
homeowners.

Wow, one whole sentence without ellipsis.


however, if you are taking his postings, rantings, etc, personal, you would
indeed be missing out on a good program hes got....but then, if I took
everything personal that anyone ever did, or said, I would never answer a
single service call....but thats me...

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:31 -0400, "No" wrote:

Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post
is "blow me". That's your customer support.

**** off, old troll from Rogers.

There's a change of pace for you.

Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:31 -0400, "No" wrote:

Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post
is "blow me". That's your customer support.

Blow me, troll.


Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!!

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/

Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/

"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message
...

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06...
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers.

I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called
"Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it
SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this,
hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit
out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out.
But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour
putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2
ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton.

I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he
had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was
basically a fill-in-the-blank program.

The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good
one. Any suggestions????


Contact Paul....seriously.

I have no beef against Paul. I don't think he has any beef against me.

I have been doing this for almost 17 years now and I have never really had
to do a manual J. I always took the measurements to someone else. Now when i
HAVE to do it for my job, I just hate the program I have on the computer at
work and I KNOW there has to be something better.....

(RP, I've tried that one before. I don't like that one either. O.K., so I'm
picky)

"tm" wrote in message
...
"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote:
"No" wrote

Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second
post is "blow me". That's your customer support.

Actually, no...

Blow me is the reply in teh alt.hvac group, that has nothing to do with
homeowners.

Wow, one whole sentence without ellipsis.

Blow me.



however, if you are taking his postings, rantings, etc, personal, you
would
indeed be missing out on a good program hes got....but then, if I took
everything personal that anyone ever did, or said, I would never answer a
single service call....but thats me...