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Attention HVAC Gurus
I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go
seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? |
Dr. Hardcrab wrote: I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? http://hvaccomputer.com/talkref.asp I'm not advertising this program, but I'm certainly recommending it. Try the free trial version. hvacrmedic |
"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? Contact Paul....seriously. |
"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message ... "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? Contact Paul....seriously. This is Turtle No , I would not trust him no farther that i could spit. TURTLE |
"TURTLE" wrote in message .. . "Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message ... "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? Contact Paul....seriously. This is Turtle No , I would not trust him no farther that i could spit. TURTLE Then in this case...you would really be mising out..but then, I doubt that you would want 4D stuff with some really good detailed printouts....you just want to rape the old guy and go on. Let it go Terry....this is one you wont win. |
Contact Paul? Are you kidding?
Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post is "blow me". That's your customer support. "Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message ... "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? Contact Paul....seriously. |
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This is an excellent forum where many very good HVAC contractors visit frequently. You most definatelly will get many recommendations. Regards, "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? |
"No" wrote in message ... Contact Paul? Are you kidding? Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post is "blow me". That's your customer support. Actually, no... Blow me is the reply in teh alt.hvac group, that has nothing to do with homeowners. however, if you are taking his postings, rantings, etc, personal, you would indeed be missing out on a good program hes got....but then, if I took everything personal that anyone ever did, or said, I would never answer a single service call....but thats me... "Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message ... "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? Contact Paul....seriously. |
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:02:21 +0900, tm wrote:
"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote: "No" wrote Contact Paul? Are you kidding? Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post is "blow me". That's your customer support. Blow me twice every third post. I'll leave the math to you. Actually, no... Blow me is the reply in teh alt.hvac group, that has nothing to do with homeowners. Wow, one whole sentence without ellipsis. however, if you are taking his postings, rantings, etc, personal, you would indeed be missing out on a good program hes got....but then, if I took everything personal that anyone ever did, or said, I would never answer a single service call....but thats me... Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:31 -0400, "No" wrote:
Contact Paul? Are you kidding? Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post is "blow me". That's your customer support. **** off, old troll from Rogers. There's a change of pace for you. Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:15:31 -0400, "No" wrote:
Contact Paul? Are you kidding? Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post is "blow me". That's your customer support. Blow me, troll. Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
"Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote in message ... "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:J5iOe.3929$Vg7.357@trnddc06... I know this has been discussed before but I don't want to have to go seacrhing through DejaNews just to get a bunch of different answers. I need a good Manual J program. I currently have one (I think it's called "Right J" or something like that) on the computer at work and it SUCKS!!!! It takes forever to punch in all of the information (type this, hit F7, fill in form, hit F5, etc., etc.) and then it doesn't ever spit out the same information twice! I know, I know. Garbage in, garbage out. But there have been a couple jobs where I would spend over an hour putting all of the info into the program and then come up with a 2 1/2 ton unit and then another guy would do the same and come up with a 3 ton. I remember (a few years back) being at some cointractor's office and he had a program that showed everything in 3-D (basically) and it was basically a fill-in-the-blank program. The company is willing to buy the software but I just want to get a good one. Any suggestions???? Contact Paul....seriously. I have no beef against Paul. I don't think he has any beef against me. I have been doing this for almost 17 years now and I have never really had to do a manual J. I always took the measurements to someone else. Now when i HAVE to do it for my job, I just hate the program I have on the computer at work and I KNOW there has to be something better..... (RP, I've tried that one before. I don't like that one either. O.K., so I'm picky) |
"tm" wrote in message ... "Carolina Breeze HVAC" wrote: "No" wrote Contact Paul? Are you kidding? Just review his posts before you will try to cantact him. Every second post is "blow me". That's your customer support. Actually, no... Blow me is the reply in teh alt.hvac group, that has nothing to do with homeowners. Wow, one whole sentence without ellipsis. Blow me. however, if you are taking his postings, rantings, etc, personal, you would indeed be missing out on a good program hes got....but then, if I took everything personal that anyone ever did, or said, I would never answer a single service call....but thats me... |
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