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Fred
 
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Local window contractor advertised whole house installation price based on
600 united inches. So what is united inches, is that total horizontal
length?


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Try one or more of the following:
1) Using a good dictionary.
2) Phoning the folks who ran the ad mentioning united inches.
3) Doing a Google search using these search terms:
definition "united inches"





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Fred wrote:
Local window contractor advertised whole house installation price based on
600 united inches. So what is united inches, is that total horizontal
length?



No, united inches is some kind of arcane measurement for
estimation purposes. UN = heighth + width (in inches)

So, a 3' x 4' window would be 36 + 48 = 84 united inches

Stupid, huh?

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Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
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"Robert Allison" wrote in message

No, united inches is some kind of arcane measurement for estimation
purposes. UN = heighth + width (in inches)

So, a 3' x 4' window would be 36 + 48 = 84 united inches

Stupid, huh?


Yes, but they have been doing that for decades that I know of. All windows
were priced that way when I was in the business. Typical windows may be 30
x 42 or 72 UI. That 600 UI deal does not allow for many windows in a house.
I have 17 windows at about 72 or 66 UI each. They are allowing for about 9
windows in the advertised price.


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United Inches is height plus width of each window opening.


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Local window contractor advertised whole house installation price based on
600 united inches. So what is united inches, is that total horizontal
length?






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"Fred" wrote

Local window contractor advertised whole house installation price based on
600 united inches. So what is united inches, is that total horizontal
length?


United inches is what the MLS team from Washington will lose the
championship by this year........


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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Robert Allison" wrote in message

No, united inches is some kind of arcane measurement for estimation
purposes. UN = heighth + width (in inches)

So, a 3' x 4' window would be 36 + 48 = 84 united inches

Stupid, huh?



Yes, but they have been doing that for decades that I know of. All windows
were priced that way when I was in the business. Typical windows may be 30
x 42 or 72 UI. That 600 UI deal does not allow for many windows in a house.
I have 17 windows at about 72 or 66 UI each. They are allowing for about 9
windows in the advertised price.



Yes, it has been around forever and has its origin in the dark
ages, thus the term "arcane". I have always wanted to sit
down and figure out a window size that would really screw up
this method of estimating, so that they would start to stick
with useful numbers instead of this system, but I just don't
have the time. United inches is one of those measurements
that just irritate me.

OK, rant mode off.

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Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
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Gideon wrote:

Try one or more of the following:
1) Using a good dictionary.
2) Phoning the folks who ran the ad mentioning united inches.
3) Doing a Google search using these search terms:
definition "united inches"






Why did you feel you needed to tell him that, Gideon?

It's not like the OP posted his question to "alt.cooking casseroles",
you know.

Seems to me this newsgroup would look like the ideal place to get an
arcane term like that explained.

I for one learned one more thing I hadn't known before by following this
thread.

Jeff

P.S. Don't bother asking me why *I* felt I needed to tell *you* that,
Gideon, 'cause I couldn't come up with an answer other that I have *way*
too much time on my hands right now, and I'm in a PO'd mood. I'm sitting
here at home waiting for a "tree guy" to come over and give me an
estimate and he's nearly an hour overdue allready. G

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(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
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"Robert Allison" wrote in message
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Fred wrote:
Local window contractor advertised whole house installation price based
on 600 united inches. So what is united inches, is that total horizontal
length?


No, united inches is some kind of arcane measurement for estimation
purposes. UN = heighth + width (in inches)

So, a 3' x 4' window would be 36 + 48 = 84 united inches

Stupid, huh?

--
Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX


Thanks for the info. So united inches could have any variable of window
areas.


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Robert Allison wrote:
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"Robert Allison" wrote in message

No, united inches is some kind of arcane measurement for estimation
purposes. UN = heighth + width (in inches)

So, a 3' x 4' window would be 36 + 48 = 84 united inches

Stupid, huh?




Yes, but they have been doing that for decades that I know of. All
windows were priced that way when I was in the business. Typical
windows may be 30 x 42 or 72 UI. That 600 UI deal does not allow for
many windows in a house. I have 17 windows at about 72 or 66 UI each.
They are allowing for about 9 windows in the advertised price.


Yes, it has been around forever and has its origin in the dark ages,
thus the term "arcane". I have always wanted to sit down and figure out
a window size that would really screw up this method of estimating, so
that they would start to stick with useful numbers instead of this
system, but I just don't have the time. United inches is one of those
measurements that just irritate me.

OK, rant mode off.

You wanted something that would screw them up? How about one window with
600ui? I bet a window measuring 192 X 408 (16 feet X 34 feet) would pose
some problems for any manufacturer and unless they had some fine weasel
wording in their advertising...

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John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com


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"Fred" wrote in message
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Local window contractor advertised whole house installation price based on
600 united inches. So what is united inches, is that total horizontal
length?



Robert gave you the correct answer for windows.

For shipping on the other hand UPS adds in the 3rd dimension. L+W+H.

Colbyt


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Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Gideon wrote:

Try one or more of the following:
1) Using a good dictionary.
2) Phoning the folks who ran the ad mentioning united inches.
3) Doing a Google search using these search terms:
definition "united inches"






Why did you feel you needed to tell him that, Gideon?

It's not like the OP posted his question to "alt.cooking casseroles",
you know.

Seems to me this newsgroup would look like the ideal place to get an
arcane term like that explained.

I for one learned one more thing I hadn't known before by following this
thread.

Jeff

P.S. Don't bother asking me why *I* felt I needed to tell *you* that,
Gideon, 'cause I couldn't come up with an answer other that I have *way*
too much time on my hands right now, and I'm in a PO'd mood. I'm sitting
here at home waiting for a "tree guy" to come over and give me an
estimate and he's nearly an hour overdue allready. G


May I add to your discussion? I too have never
heard the term, but I do like to learn new ones.
I haven't checked the internet for the term and I
am not going to. There are many arcane terms, but
united inches is just plain dumb, it doesn't make
sense and almost everyone uses a different term.
It's no wonder we haven't heard it before, and
business using it is living in the past, way past.

As for Gideon's disdain, he is also wrong. I have
many different dictionaries, good ones and not
one has united inches. Before somebody points out
that united inches is an old term, my 1900
copyright Webster International doesn't show the term.
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"Fred" wrote in message

Thanks for the info. So united inches could have any variable of window
areas.



Yes


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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
There are many arcane terms, but united inches is just plain dumb, it
doesn't make sense and almost everyone uses a different term. It's no
wonder we haven't heard it before, and business using it is living in the
past, way past.


Not really. Having been in the window business, it was a usefull and
accurate way of pricing.
UI takes in the main costing facorts, the linea feet of frame needed to
build the window.
Simple and it works so why do someting more complex? Why multiply for
square inches when all you have to do is add to get the UI?

If a window sells for $5 a UI, at 24 x 36 is easily priced at $300 and a 24
x 37 is $305.
Using square inches, it would be priced at 0.34722 per square inch Now make
the window an inch larger and how many steps is it to get the new price? No
calculator, do it in your head. Do the pricing for an old house with 20
windows and six or seven different sizes.

Everyone in the window business uses UI as a matter of every day fact.
Those using diffeent terms are from different fields where shoes sizes are
simple to them, not dumb like the rest of us think. Or letter sizes for
drills. Or lower numbers for thicker wire sizes. Or scoring in tennis.


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