I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He won't
be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be
paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
|I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
| step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't
| be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be
| paying that cost?
|
| How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
| could break at any time?
|
| Any thoughts?
|
| Thanks.
|
|

His tool, he broke, it's his problem (I'd think). All you care of is the job
done right.

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:25:04 GMT, "Ron" wrote:


"Vidkid72" wrote in message
. ..
|I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
| step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't
| be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be
| paying that cost?
|
| How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
| could break at any time?
|
| Any thoughts?
|
| Thanks.
|
|

His tool, he broke, it's his problem (I'd think). All you care of is the job
done right.

Unless you have a cost-plus contract. Then you pay for worn-out
tools, gas for the generator, etc. I found that out the hard way.

Vidkid72 wrote:
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He won't
be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be
paying that cost?

If his vehicle takes a dump on the way to your house to do your job,
would you pay to fix it?


How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Ask him. He sounds like a completely honest guy...

"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really
should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Are you still laughing? You should be.

Tools are just a part of doing business. They wear out, they break, they
cost money. Not your problem at all. Just tell him he should have been ore
careful and he should buy better tools. Reality is we all pay for the tools
our contractors use. That is part of the price you pay, along with
insurance, his truck payment, pencils and all the cost of doing business.

There may be an exception of a special tool he has to buy up front that
would never be used again. In that case, you would pay for it, but then you
would own it, not him.

Let him take you to court so everyone has a good laugh.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:


"Vidkid72" wrote in message
. ..
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really
should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Are you still laughing? You should be.

Tools are just a part of doing business. They wear out, they break, they
cost money. Not your problem at all. Just tell him he should have been ore
careful and he should buy better tools. Reality is we all pay for the tools
our contractors use. That is part of the price you pay, along with
insurance, his truck payment, pencils and all the cost of doing business.

There may be an exception of a special tool he has to buy up front that
would never be used again. In that case, you would pay for it, but then you
would own it, not him.

That (cost of tooling) should be in the terms of the deal from the
beginning, just like labor and materials.

He's absolutely correct, it is your responsibility,in fact if you'd email me
your address, I'd like to stop by with my ailing old work van. I'm sure I
could get it to die on your driveway!!! Just kidding , Legally, unless
you've agreed to something different, his tools are under his care and
control and not your responsibility
"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really
should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really
should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.


Refuse to pay for it, and if he complains, hand him the telephone number to
the State Contractor's Board. Tell him that you disagree that you should
have to pay for the tool, but will do whatever the Contractor's Arbitration
process instructs you to do. HE must file with the CB, not you. You just
have to answer if he is stupid enough to make a complaint.

If he is a contractor, he knows that what he is asking is laughable. If he
is not a contractor, he won't do a thing.

I recently had a handyman who broke a tool during a remodel. He wanted me
to pay for it. I told him to return items that he kept from during the
remodel, including an expensive saw blade. He changed his mind.

It is a good thing for all to state that a workman covers his own tools, but
it is so laughable. Only the inexperienced or unethical would ask to be
paid.

Steve

Who is this guy? Is he really a Contractor that earns the bulk of his
income from contracting jobs? Or is he just a friend of a friend who is
employed elsewhere and just does odd jobs on the side? Lots of Firemen
moonlight as Contractors.
I can't believe a REAL Contractor would even mention a broken tool. How
expensive is the broken tool to replace? Does the Contractor own the tool,
or did he rent or borrow it?
I would be more concerned that he has Worker's Compensation (may be called
OSHA or something else where you live) coverage in case he gets injured
while working on your property.

Please let us know how this situation turns out.

Des


"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a
concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't
be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be
paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Vidkid72 wrote:
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a
concrete step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the
cost. He won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering
if I really should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so
that it could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Sign in a children's bookstore (about 3' from the floor): "You bite it, you
bought it."

If you own the tool he owes you !

If he owns the tool he needs to learn how to use it properly so it does
not;t get broken !
"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really
should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

You must pay for the tool and any wear and tear on others that are not
broke. It is standard since you hired him as a laborer and any extras are
just that, extras.
Standard is replacement cost plus 10% for overhead and 10% for profit. No
exceptions~!

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Concrete Finishing and Synthetic Stucco application in the GTA.
"barbarow" wrote in message
news:J1Pne.14799$Vm4.11559@trnddc01...
If you own the tool he owes you !

If he owns the tool he needs to learn how to use it properly so it does
not;t get broken !
"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a
concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He
won't be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really
should be paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that
it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Great humor. Now tell us about Santy Claus and the Easter Bunny.

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ConcreteFinishing&StuccoGuy wrote in message ...
You must pay for the tool and any wear and tear on others that are not
broke. It is standard since you hired him as a laborer and any extras are
just that, extras.
Standard is replacement cost plus 10% for overhead and 10% for profit. No
exceptions

"Gideon" wrote in message
...
Great humor. Now tell us about Santy Claus and the Easter Bunny.

===========

ConcreteFinishing&StuccoGuy wrote in message ...
You must pay for the tool and any wear and tear on others that are not
broke. It is standard since you hired him as a laborer and any extras are
just that, extras.
Standard is replacement cost plus 10% for overhead and 10% for profit. No
exceptions



Yeah, I like the ones about Santy, and the Easter Bunny, but this one has
the potential of becoming a REAL classic!

STeve

SteveB wrote:
"Gideon" wrote in message
...

Great humor. Now tell us about Santy Claus and the Easter Bunny.

===========

ConcreteFinishing&StuccoGuy wrote in message ...
You must pay for the tool and any wear and tear on others that are not
broke. It is standard since you hired him as a laborer and any extras are
just that, extras.
Standard is replacement cost plus 10% for overhead and 10% for profit. No
exceptions




Yeah, I like the ones about Santy, and the Easter Bunny, but this one has
the potential of becoming a REAL classic!

STeve



And probably all over a pick handle or a tape measure...

"Vidkid72" wrote in message
.. .
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He won't be
done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be paying
that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

This is Turtle.

i just did a job for you on your HVAC system for a cost of $135.00 and when I
was writting up the invoice for you to sign and pay me. I broke my Rolls Royce
ink pen and I tell you your going to have to pay for my ink pen breakage of a
cost of $14,000.00.

Will you go for that ?

TURTLE

In article ,
Vidkid72 wrote:
I have a contractor over right now installing a fence and puring a concrete
step. He broke a tool and said that I would have to pay the cost. He won't
be done for a couple of hours still so I'm wondering if I really should be
paying that cost?

How do I know the tool wasn't broken to begin with or worn out so that it
could break at any time?

Any thoughts?

Thanks.



My thought is, IS THIS FOR REAL?


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Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland