Another man and I had a discussion a couple weeks ago. The question of
power versus hand tools.

The context was replacing springs under a truck or van. I've done leaf
springs, but not coils. The first leaf spring replacement, I did at a
friend's garage. I'd left most of my heavy tools home, figuring he was
well supplied with tools. I was disppointed to find that someone had
just stolen some of his tools, including his impact wrench.

We put a 7/8 socket onto a breaker bar, and got the nut started. And
then quickly change that to a ratchet, and keep pulling. We were both
sore at the end of that experience.

The other leaf spring, I brought my own impact gun. It's not a fancy
one, it's a Wel Bilt, from Harbor Freight. I heated the nut, and then
pop the impact gun on, and pull the trigger. Don't let off the
trigger, till the nut is off the bolt. That seemed to work fairly
well.

However, my friend (who is far more athletic and muscled than I am,
was, or will be) prefers hand wrenching.

So, what do the other fine posters on this group think? Hand wrenches
or power tools? Lets not dissolve into chants of "Great taste / less
filling" which was a mantra from a beer commercial a couple decades
ago.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Another man and I had a discussion a couple weeks ago. The question of
power versus hand tools.

....
So, what do the other fine posters on this group think? Hand wrenches
or power tools? Lets not dissolve into chants of "Great taste / less
filling" which was a mantra from a beer commercial a couple decades
ago.

Use whatever you have at hand or want excuse to get. If it's
time-critical, power tool may save some, but then again, an impact
wrench can wreak havoc if used improperly, too.

I see it as the proverbial "tempest in a teapot"...

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Another man and I had a discussion a couple weeks ago. The question of
power versus hand tools.

The context was replacing springs under a truck or van. I've done leaf
springs, but not coils. The first leaf spring replacement, I did at a
friend's garage. I'd left most of my heavy tools home, figuring he was
well supplied with tools. I was disppointed to find that someone had
just stolen some of his tools, including his impact wrench.

We put a 7/8 socket onto a breaker bar, and got the nut started. And
then quickly change that to a ratchet, and keep pulling. We were both
sore at the end of that experience.

The other leaf spring, I brought my own impact gun. It's not a fancy
one, it's a Wel Bilt, from Harbor Freight. I heated the nut, and then
pop the impact gun on, and pull the trigger. Don't let off the
trigger, till the nut is off the bolt. That seemed to work fairly
well.

However, my friend (who is far more athletic and muscled than I am,
was, or will be) prefers hand wrenching.

So, what do the other fine posters on this group think? Hand wrenches
or power tools? Lets not dissolve into chants of "Great taste / less
filling" which was a mantra from a beer commercial a couple decades
ago.

Hi,
I have compressor in my garage. Air tools beats hand tools hands down.
I also have some cordless tools, drill, saw, etc.
Tony

So, what do the other fine posters on this group think? Hand wrenches
or power tools? Lets not dissolve into chants of "Great taste / less
filling" which was a mantra from a beer commercial a couple decades
ago.


Power tool are great if you're using them where there's power.
But they really suck if you're halfway out I-80 in the middle
of the night,

it's really nice to be able to just pop a nail in when you've got things
aligned rather than worry about hammer blows knocking things around.

then again there are situations where no power tool is gonna do what a
chisel or block plane can quickly do.

they are complements to each other

w/regard to power tools in automotive shops... well using them once pretty
much dictates using them again and you can feel pretty silly after nearly
giving yourself a coronary trying to get a lug nut off by hand and watching
it come off easily w/an impact wrench.

This is a simple question with many answers.
In all actuality, there is a place and time for either type of tool.
I prefer to use hand tools at work, as I work with 7mm screws and such
all the time. Phillips head screws, 8mm screws, torx
stuff..........none of which are torqued terribly tight. None of which
are in a hard to get to situation. So, I prefer a ratcheting
screwdriver most of the time. I am as quick as someone with a screw
gun most of the time because I have been doing it so long. Very rarely
is a power tool of any benefit over the hand tool in my work. (every
now and again I wish for a battery powered impact for seat bolt
removal in cars )

At home, I use a similar philosophy. If I can do it by hand, and have
the energy to do it, I use hand tools. If I am tired cause I have
worked all day, and lack the energy I may use a power tool.

Just tonight, I got out and used a pruning saw (hand powered) for half
an hour. I have a chainsaw, but no ladder, so this was the ONLY method
I have of working on the high branches.

If I do wood work of any kind, I try and use power tools with guides
and such to do more accurate work, as I haven't a steady hand, and
like another poster, I think nailing with a power nailer would be an
awesome thing if I had one, as wood tends to move as you screw/nail a
lot of the time when there's just marks to line up.

All in all, they noth have their place.

It's certainly not a matter of whats better for the sake of power or
not.

So, what do the other fine posters on this group think? Hand wrenches
or power tools? Lets not dissolve into chants of "Great taste / less
filling" which was a mantra from a beer commercial a couple decades
ago.



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Like most things,..it depends. You have to look at the situation. The
one you stated first, if you used a power tool and it stripped the
nut...what next. Sometimes it may work to start it by hand and then
power it the rest of the way off. Old rusty stuff is tricky since you
do not want strip it. For woodworking, power tools save time, time,
time. My 2 cents.

However, my friend (who is far more athletic and muscled than I am,
was, or will be) prefers hand wrenching.

So, what do the other fine posters on this group think? Hand wrenches
or power tools? Lets not dissolve into chants of "Great taste / less
filling" which was a mantra from a beer commercial a couple decades
ago.

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I rebuild/restore cars as a hobby.... and I have a complete woodshop
in which I build furniture as my other hobby....

Using a impact wrench is just much easier physically ...no brainer not
to use one ....picking up an air rachet on the other hand pure is
more trouble then it is worth unless I am removing a manifold etc and
will be removing more then 6-8 bolts....this is justified only because
it saves time...

In the woodshop... I'll use the jointer to produce a flat surface on a
piece of lumber..then flip the lumber to produce a flat edge which is
90 degrees from that first side......then walk over to the planer to
produce the second side which is perfectely parallel to the other
side... Now I can use the Table Saw to finish the work piece

Using a hand plane works BUT it honestly takes not only much more
time..BUT a HELL of a lot more skill...

On the other hand using a cabinet scraper is much faster and produces
a much smoother surface then using sandpaper...either by hand or with
a power sander...

Bob Griffiths

when your young ,dumd and full of...... time ,,,,hard work dont seem to
matter as much.as a matter of fact ,i did alot of things the hard way
cause it was a good workout ,but time takes its toll on us all and using
your head more with power tools keeps me working where i might not be
working at all without them.. i use power tools for anything they will
work on ,it saves time ,,and sweat. i can remember when granpa built a
trailer out of an old rear end and drilled the holes with a bit and
brace , it took him a long time,weeks ,but he was steady and persistant
and got her done. i think i could drill all those holes in a few hours
with a good drill. lucas.

I drilled several 5/16 holes in some really tough angle iron the other day
to make a brace for a lawn mower. Coulda done them wtih a hand drill, and a
couple weeks of labor.

In the context of the original question (changing springs on a vehicle) I
really like impact wrenches when possible.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


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when your young ,dumd and full of...... time ,,,,hard work dont seem to
matter as much.as a matter of fact ,i did alot of things the hard way
cause it was a good workout ,but time takes its toll on us all and using
your head more with power tools keeps me working where i might not be
working at all without them.. i use power tools for anything they will
work on ,it saves time ,,and sweat. i can remember when granpa built a
trailer out of an old rear end and drilled the holes with a bit and
brace , it took him a long time,weeks ,but he was steady and persistant
and got her done. i think i could drill all those holes in a few hours
with a good drill. lucas.

It's usually a matter of final appearance and time, as well as which
tools are available.