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Default Metal Bending Break Question and a rant

Rant first - OK - I need some flashing. I understand that the Blue and
Orange stores may not have what I want, I come to expect that. What I am
looking for is the flashing that goes behind siding and over a shed roof
(not the roof of a shed but a type of roof called a shed roof). What I want
is perfectly illustrated at
http://www.askthebuilder.com/529-Roo...op-Leaks.shtml I had
bought a piece like this once before for a job at a supply house near a
different project (2 hours away from me now) When I try and ask for this
from local supply houses I get a deer in the headlights look. It seems that
this piece is typically only available as an accessory part to a metal
roofing system and is special order. One place that said they had it in
stock (30 mins away) really only had a drip edge piece 1 1/2" x 1 1/2",
argh.

OK - My handyman job is scheduled for first light on Saturday. I am cleaning
up a mess a roofer made but that's another story. I have decided to rent a
break and form my own pieces. I do not know anything about the particulars
of the break I'm getting except that it will handle 10' material and I can
get it in my truck.

I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself. Are there
any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too much helpful
info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.

Replies today are appreciated.

Thanks

B


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No wrote:
I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself. Are
there any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too
much helpful info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.


No wonder Google didn't turn up anything useful.

It's metal brake, not metal break.

http://www.google.com/search?oe=utf-8&q=metal+brake
Results 1 - 20 of about 1,500,000 English pages for metal brake. (0.18
seconds)


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Thanks for the fast reply!! My bad on the spelling, Thanks for correcting
me. Still found no useful instructional guides or tutorials. Any tips to
share?


"Travis Jordan" wrote in message
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No wrote:
I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself. Are
there any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too
much helpful info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.


No wonder Google didn't turn up anything useful.

It's metal brake, not metal break.

http://www.google.com/search?oe=utf-8&q=metal+brake
Results 1 - 20 of about 1,500,000 English pages for metal brake. (0.18
seconds)




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"No" wrote in message ...
Thanks for the fast reply!! My bad on the spelling, Thanks for correcting
me. Still found no useful instructional guides or tutorials. Any tips to
share?



Measure, measure, and measure again. Take it slow, and bend less than you
think you need. You can always add more of a bend, but it's tough to take
some of the bend out and keep it looking clean. Bend a little and test fit
and bend a bit more if needed. After a few pieces, you will start to get a
feel for the equipment and the materials.


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Thanks!
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"No" wrote in message
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Thanks for the fast reply!! My bad on the spelling, Thanks for
correcting
me. Still found no useful instructional guides or tutorials. Any tips to
share?



Measure, measure, and measure again. Take it slow, and bend less than you
think you need. You can always add more of a bend, but it's tough to take
some of the bend out and keep it looking clean. Bend a little and test
fit and bend a bit more if needed. After a few pieces, you will start to
get a feel for the equipment and the materials.





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I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself. Are there
any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too much

helpful
info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.



under break by about 5 degrees & you will be ensured of a tight fit against
both surfaces.

BTW: flashing isn't really considered metal work. IMO

Rob


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No wrote:
Thanks for the fast reply!! My bad on the spelling, Thanks for
correcting me. Still found no useful instructional guides or
tutorials. Any tips to share?


http://www.irvansmith.com/tech3.htm


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Sounds as if you are already committed. Do you have the metal,
what gauge, is the brake you are looking at capable of bending the
gauge you have? Make sure that you make the hem edge first. Cut
a piece of scrap about 6 inches long and make the profile of your
finished piece so you learn which bend needs to be made first. At
worst, you louse up a little scrap piece. You may make 10 pieces
of scrap, one, or none but you should be able to manufacture the
shape you require with a little practice.
If you want a piece of sheetmetal and you are in a large enough
town to have a box store, call any sheetmetal or HVAC shop in town
and they will make it for less than your costs. If you contact a
siding outfit, they will make it for you out of pre colored metal.

(top posted for your convenience)
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"No" wrote in message
...
Rant first - OK - I need some flashing. I understand that the
Blue and
Orange stores may not have what I want, I come to expect that.
What I am
looking for is the flashing that goes behind siding and over a
shed roof
(not the roof of a shed but a type of roof called a shed roof).
What I want
is perfectly illustrated at
http://www.askthebuilder.com/529-Roo...op-Leaks.shtml
I had
bought a piece like this once before for a job at a supply house
near a
different project (2 hours away from me now) When I try and ask
for this
from local supply houses I get a deer in the headlights look. It
seems that
this piece is typically only available as an accessory part to a
metal
roofing system and is special order. One place that said they
had it in
stock (30 mins away) really only had a drip edge piece 1 1/2" x
1 1/2",
argh.

OK - My handyman job is scheduled for first light on Saturday. I
am cleaning
up a mess a roofer made but that's another story. I have decided
to rent a
break and form my own pieces. I do not know anything about the
particulars
of the break I'm getting except that it will handle 10' material
and I can
get it in my truck.

I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself.
Are there
any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too
much helpful
info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.

Replies today are appreciated.

Thanks

B




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"No" wrote in message
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OK - My handyman job is scheduled for first light

on Saturday.

I will also post on rec.metalworking.

Those guys will help you.

Sometimes they are called "pan brakes"

try this link for some info:
http://www.americanmachinetools.com/hand_brake.htm


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No wrote:
Rant first - OK - I need some flashing. I understand that the Blue

and
Orange stores may not have what I want, I come to expect that. What I

am
looking for is the flashing that goes behind siding and over a shed

roof
(not the roof of a shed but a type of roof called a shed roof). What

I want
is perfectly illustrated at
http://www.askthebuilder.com/529-Roo...op-Leaks.shtml I

had
bought a piece like this once before for a job at a supply house near

a
different project (2 hours away from me now) When I try and ask for

this
from local supply houses I get a deer in the headlights look. It

seems that
this piece is typically only available as an accessory part to a

metal
roofing system and is special order. One place that said they had it

in
stock (30 mins away) really only had a drip edge piece 1 1/2" x 1

1/2",
argh.

OK - My handyman job is scheduled for first light on Saturday. I am

cleaning
up a mess a roofer made but that's another story. I have decided to

rent a
break and form my own pieces. I do not know anything about the

particulars
of the break I'm getting except that it will handle 10' material and

I can
get it in my truck.

I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself. Are

there
any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too much

helpful
info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.

Replies today are appreciated.

Thanks

B


I needed 26 ft of the same stuff. Took my bevel gauge, set it to the
proper angle and locked down tight. Down to my local HVAC store and
had them do it. Quick, cheap and easy.

Harry K



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If memory serves, a device for bending metal is a "brake".

http://www.eng.hmc.edu/E8/Shops/SheetMetal/Brake.htm

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"No" wrote in message ...
Rant first - OK - I need some flashing. I understand that the Blue and
Orange stores may not have what I want, I come to expect that. What I am
looking for is the flashing that goes behind siding and over a shed roof
(not the roof of a shed but a type of roof called a shed roof). What I want
is perfectly illustrated at
http://www.askthebuilder.com/529-Roo...op-Leaks.shtml I had
bought a piece like this once before for a job at a supply house near a
different project (2 hours away from me now) When I try and ask for this
from local supply houses I get a deer in the headlights look. It seems that
this piece is typically only available as an accessory part to a metal
roofing system and is special order. One place that said they had it in
stock (30 mins away) really only had a drip edge piece 1 1/2" x 1 1/2",
argh.

OK - My handyman job is scheduled for first light on Saturday. I am cleaning
up a mess a roofer made but that's another story. I have decided to rent a
break and form my own pieces. I do not know anything about the particulars
of the break I'm getting except that it will handle 10' material and I can
get it in my truck.

I have seen breaks used before but I have never used one myself. Are there
any tricks of the trade? Suggestions? Google didn't turn up too much helpful
info. I will also post on rec.metalworking.

Replies today are appreciated.

Thanks

B



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Stormin Mormon wrote:

If memory serves, a device for bending metal is a "brake".

http://www.eng.hmc.edu/E8/Shops/SheetMetal/Brake.htm


True, but why? Has always seemed to be a malaprop to me...
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