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Adam wrote:
I'm putting together a custom compressor and I have a question relating to the nomenclature of threaded fittings. The pressure switch is spec'd as having four "NPSF" ports. All the rest of my plumbing is NPT. My question is whether or not a 1/4" NPT pipe nipple can mate with the NPSF ports on the switch. I thought abbreviations starting with NPS meant straight non-tapered threads, but I can't figure out why this one component would be threaded differently than all my other pneumatic parts which are NPT. NPSF is the female "fuel service" or "dryseal" thread ( "F" for fuel) which can be mated with a plain NPT pipe nipple to produce a metal to metal seal without the "spiral leak path" which occurs when two regular NPT threads are mated. But, to be closer to perfection the male thread should be a NPTF, not just a plain old NPT, IIRC the "fuel" designation comes from the fact that early pipe dopes weren't hydrocarbon proof, and often disolved if used in fuel service. A common misunderstanding is that NPT threads seal because "the tapered threads jam together". That's not true, and a properly made up NPT threaded joint will predictably leak unless some sort of pipe joint compound or tape is used, at least until the spiral leak path gets plugged by corrosion or crap in whatever is being carried in the plumbing. It's sometimes possible to overtighten NPT threads so that metal deformation forces a seal, particularly with brass fittings, but that's not the way they're supposed to work. Here's a pretty good primer on this stuff: http://www.webster-inst.com/techinfo...r/pipeconn.htm Second question: I was at the Home Depot getting a few extra fittings, when I realized that the cast brass parts (my preference) were labeled in MIP and FIP rather than NPT. Are they the same as NPT? Yes, a holdover from earlier days. "Male Iron Pipe and "Female Iron Pipe". "Iron Pipe" threads became NPT threads. Lastly, what is IPS threading? The MSC catalog has a lot of brass fittings and nipples marked as IPS sizing. Is this compatible with NPT or just with itself? IPS ("Iron Pipe Straight") eqivalent to NPS. Not really compatible with NPT. -Adam Jeff (Who wonders how long it's going to remain PC to refer to threads and electrical connectors by gender specific terms....What a world.) P.S. If you're going to use a return addy which asks us to see your sig line, why not follow through and give us something to "see". JW -- Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "If you can keep smiling when things go wrong, you've thought of someone to place the blame on." |