Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

Sherwin

On Jan 13, 2:44*am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

You never have and they don't.

On Jan 13, 3:44*am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Sherwin

Here, I'll answer your implicit question.

I've got a front loading washer. I've never noticed any excessive
vibration,
but it's on a concrete floor in the basement.

Cindy Hamilton

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WDS wrote:

On Jan 13, 2:44*am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

You never have and they don't.

I always wondered why they are so much more expensive?
they just have the one motion, goes round & round for wash and spin.
what is so complicated about that?
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WDS wrote:

On Jan 13, 2:44*am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

You never have and they don't.

I always wondered why they are so much more expensive?
they just have the one motion, goes round & round for wash and spin.
what is so complicated about that?

Kind of like one turnned sideways. Puts more load on the bearing, but I guess there
are other rollers unside there. I see disadvantages to front loaders. I sometimes like
to handle the cloths for some reason or to add additional cloths, or to check on them.
You have to use low suds soap costing more.

greg

WDS wrote:
On Jan 13, 2:44 am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

You never have and they don't.

Maybe not on this news group, but to several trade magazines,
washer manufacturers, etc.

What kind of front loader do you have? Do you ever run it at
the highest spin speed available? It will show up to some
degree on slower speeds, as well.

doc marten wrote:

I always wondered why they are so much more expensive?
they just have the one motion, goes round & round for wash and spin.
what is so complicated about that?

They are a more complicated technology. The programs are more
complex involving series of spin and reverse spin to keep the
clothes from tangling. They also use about half the water of
top loaders and generally do a better job of cleaning.

GregS wrote:
what is so complicated about that?

Kind of like one turnned sideways. Puts more load on the bearing, but I guess there
are other rollers unside there. I see disadvantages to front loaders. I sometimes like
to handle the cloths for some reason or to add additional cloths, or to check on them.
You have to use low suds soap costing more.

greg

The main reason I had to handle clothes with my old top loader was to
redistribute them because the spin cycle caused excessive vibration and
the machine shut itself off.

So far, I see the cost of soap is about the same ( I shop at Walmart).

Sherwin

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:44 am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

Sherwin

Here, I'll answer your implicit question.

I've got a front loading washer. I've never noticed any excessive
vibration,
but it's on a concrete floor in the basement.

Cindy Hamilton


Well, you are lucky there. People like me with the washers on wooden
floors, especially on a second floor, notice them quite a bit. When
I run the washer located in a kitchen closet in a ranch house with no
basement, I felt the vibrations in the floor throughout the house.
I partially cured this by putting the washer on a isolating pad, The
washer still shakes, but at least the house doesn't.

On Jan 14, 12:01*am, sherwin dubren wrote:
WDS wrote:
On Jan 13, 2:44 am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

You never have and they don't.

* *Maybe not on this news group, but to several trade magazines,
* *washer manufacturers, etc.

* *What kind of front loader do you have? *Do you ever run it at
* *the highest spin speed available? *It will show up to some
* *degree on slower speeds, as well.

I have a Tromm and I use it at the highest spin cycle almost always
and I used to have another brand. Neither one vibrated excessively.
In fact, I never have seen them do anything like the "hop" that top
loaders are notorious for doing (every previous top loader I've had
did that).

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:09:50 -0600, sherwin dubren
wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jan 13, 3:44 am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

Sherwin

Here, I'll answer your implicit question.

I've got a front loading washer. I've never noticed any excessive
vibration,
but it's on a concrete floor in the basement.

Cindy Hamilton


Well, you are lucky there. People like me with the washers on wooden
floors, especially on a second floor, notice them quite a bit. When
I run the washer located in a kitchen closet in a ranch house with no
basement, I felt the vibrations in the floor throughout the house.
I partially cured this by putting the washer on a isolating pad, The
washer still shakes, but at least the house doesn't.

Like WDS in a previous post, I've got a front loader (a Frigidaire
Gallery, cheap and effective), but it's on a concrete basement floor,
and we don't experience excessive or really any vibration as we run
the spin cycle on High. The washer does shake a bit, but given the
horizontal axle of the tub, what else would you expect?

WDS wrote:
On Jan 14, 12:01 am, sherwin dubren wrote:
WDS wrote:
On Jan 13, 2:44 am, sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?
You never have and they don't.
Maybe not on this news group, but to several trade magazines,
washer manufacturers, etc.

What kind of front loader do you have? Do you ever run it at
the highest spin speed available? It will show up to some
degree on slower speeds, as well.

I have a Tromm and I use it at the highest spin cycle almost always
and I used to have another brand. Neither one vibrated excessively.
In fact, I never have seen them do anything like the "hop" that top
loaders are notorious for doing (every previous top loader I've had
did that).

One advantage of the front loaders is that the washer frequently
reverses it's spin direction. This prevents the clothes bunching
up in knots. My old top loader was notorious for this bunching and
I frequently had to stop the wash cycle to re-distribute the clothes.

The newer top loaders may have solved this problem by doing a similar
spin reversal. They may also spin at lower rpm minimizing the
vibration problem. I always thought the front loaders were more of
a problem than the top loaders for the reasons stated.

Sherwin

KLS wrote:

Like WDS in a previous post, I've got a front loader (a Frigidaire
Gallery, cheap and effective), but it's on a concrete basement floor,
and we don't experience excessive or really any vibration as we run
the spin cycle on High. The washer does shake a bit, but given the
horizontal axle of the tub, what else would you expect?


Probably the cement floors at least give an impression of less of a
problem. I think Consumer Reports was probably testing their machines
on a cement floor. Probably after hearing numberous complaints from
consumers they tested them on softer floors and decided to rate the
machines for vibration.

I have heard of numerous stories of people exchanging their washers
because of vibration problems, mostly those who installed them on
their second floors near their bedrooms. The growing trend is to
put them upstairs. In my ranch house I had no choice, but it was
still very annoying when I felt the floor shake in adjoing rooms.
Sometimes this is a leveling problem. In my case, it was not. It's
just the nature of the beast. But it is interesting how the
manufacturers and retailers have kept quiet about this. Only the
Samsung now brags about a new vibration dampening front loader.
However, they are much more expensive than my LG, so I will just
live with these shakes, especially since I have isolated them to
the machine proper.

Sherwin

sherwin dubren wrote:
Why is it when I bring up the subject of Front Loading Washing
Machines having excessive vibration, does everyone duck for cover?

Sherwin

I discovered a new wrinkle in this issue.

I stumbled across a new feature from my LG washer company called
the TrueBalance Anti-Vibration System. There is a film on Utube
about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFmof...e=channel_page

They show a front load washer balancing on ping pong balls and
not vibrating off. Well, this is probably what I need for my
wooden floor. Unfortunately, this feature only comes in their
top of the line washer for three times the price I paid for mine.
Who knows if it will ever show up in their lesser priced lines.

By the way, Samsung has a very similar, if not identical system
in their washers, but here again the price is prohibitive for me.

Sherwin