I'm considering a new front load washing machine for the second floor
of a new addition. Very solid wooden floors in the space concerned,
directly adjacent to the bedroom.

While I find lower water and energy consumption very attractive about
this type of washer, I have read and heard many complaints about how
much noise and vibration they make during their spin cycle. I am very
sensitive to noise. Can those who own front load washers please
comment on this?

Thank you very much.

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While I find lower water and energy consumption very attractive about
this type of washer, I have read and heard many complaints about how
much noise and vibration they make during their spin cycle. I am very
sensitive to noise. Can those who own front load washers please
comment on this?

I have had both, and never noticed a difference. The only
thing I have noticed that it is a bit easier to get a front
loader out of balance than a top loader, and when out of
balance, they do make noise and vibrate. Both machines
that I have had recognized this situation and spun down
fairly quickly.

-john-

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writes:

I'm considering a new front load washing machine for the second floor
of a new addition. Very solid wooden floors in the space concerned,
directly adjacent to the bedroom.

While I find lower water and energy consumption very attractive about
this type of washer, I have read and heard many complaints about how
much noise and vibration they make during their spin cycle. I am very
sensitive to noise. Can those who own front load washers please
comment on this?


During the wash cycle, I find my Kenmore HE2 a lot quieter than the
constant wirr of a traditional top loader. However, a full load
spinning as fast as this thing can in its concrete encased enclosure
is louder, I suspect than spin cycle on a top loader.

Overall, it's a *ahem* wash.

2nd floor laundries are very hard to keep quiet because rarely is the
floor stiff enough to keep vibrations from renonating more than if
they're sitting on concrete in the basement.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://toddh.net/

What do you mean by this? Not a great quality wash?


Overall, it's a *ahem* wash.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H. http://toddh.net/

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What do you mean by this? Not a great quality wash?


Overall, it's a *ahem* wash.


It was a pun.

writes:



Overall, it's a *ahem* wash.

What do you mean by this? Not a great quality wash?

It's a horrible pun indicating that in the battle of noise, it's a
draw, no clear winner, "a wash."

Cleaning wise, and overall satisfaction wise, I'm remarkably satisfied
with my front loader. They really do seem to clean well. Not all are
as thrifty on water as promised according to consumer reports
analysis, so if that's important to ya (as I feel it should be), do
compare the ratings. It's damned near entertaining to watch it go
(something controlled by a microcontroller program vs ye ole analog
timer still hasn't lost its novelty to me), and it really does seem to
clean better.

But they are buttloads more expensive. If there weren't a woman
involved, I'd likely have gotten another set of top loaders. But,
now that I have em, I really do like em.

Now the a**-rapin-ist thing about the front load washers though, is
the money they get for the pedestals that put them at a convenient
height.... Oy.

Oh, one final thing about hte noise -- you can dictate the top spin
speed which may be useful if you wash when you go to bed. But the
down side is that slower spin means more water in the laundry which
means more time and energy spent with the clothes in the dryer....

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://toddh.net/

I don't plan on getting a pedestal. I may, however, get a nice square,
level piece of concrete.


Now the a**-rapin-ist thing about the front load washers though, is
the money they get for the pedestals that put them at a convenient
height.... Oy.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H. http://toddh.net/

On Feb 5, 7:31 am, wrote:
I don't plan on getting a pedestal. I may, however, get a nice square,
level piece of concrete.



Now the a**-rapin-ist thing about the front load washers though, is
the money they get for the pedestals that put them at a convenient
height.... Oy.
Best Regards,
--
Todd H. http://toddh.net/

suggest you buy from somewhere with a liberal return policy, as you
are gonna have NO luck with one of those beasts on the second floor.
Pictures will be falling off the walls downstairs. A cement block
under it won't help. Google is your friend, this has been discussed
endlessly.

In that case, what is a sensational top load washer. By this I mean
foremost, one that is well made and reliable, energy efficient and few
bells and whistles. I'm leaning to Speed Queen, given its three year
warranty.

In that case, what is a sensational top load washer. By this I mean
foremost, one that is well made and reliable, energy efficient and few
bells and whistles. I'm leaning to Speed Queen, given its three year
warranty.

On Feb 5, 8:19 am, "
wrote:
On Feb 5, 7:31 am, wrote:

I don't plan on getting a pedestal. I may, however, get a nice square,
level piece of concrete.

Now the a**-rapin-ist thing about the front load washers though, is
the money they get for the pedestals that put them at a convenient
height.... Oy.
Best Regards,
--
Todd H. http://toddh.net/

suggest you buy from somewhere with a liberal return policy, as you
are gonna have NO luck with one of those beasts on the second floor.
Pictures will be falling off the walls downstairs. A cement block
under it won't help. Google is your friend, this has been discussed
endlessly.

Alan writes:

On 04 Feb 2007 21:45:34 -0600, (Todd H.) wrote:

writes:



Overall, it's a *ahem* wash.

What do you mean by this? Not a great quality wash?

It's a horrible pun indicating that in the battle of noise, it's a
draw, no clear winner, "a wash."

He said the wash cycle was quiet, but the spin cycle could
be noisy...

That's 6 of one, half-a-dozen of the other.

Or, a wash.

Pun.

Chuckle.

Don't get all stuffed-shirt about it!

Alan, were you telling me (the author of said pun) or the OP? :-)

--
Todd H.
http://toddh.net/

In article .com,
says...
I don't plan on getting a pedestal. I may, however, get a nice square,
level piece of concrete.

We have an LG front loader upstairs in our hundred-year-old house, whose
floors are framed with 2x6es on 24" centers, a bit springy by modern
standards. You can tell it's running in other rooms because of the
vibrations in the floor, but it isn't at all noisy.

We didn't get a pedestal, but I framed up a platform for it out of 2x4s
and plywood, with storage underneath.

--
is Joshua Putnam
http://www.phred.org/~josh/
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html

" wrote in
ups.com:


suggest you buy from somewhere with a liberal return policy, as you
are gonna have NO luck with one of those beasts on the second floor.
Pictures will be falling off the walls downstairs. A cement block
under it won't help. Google is your friend, this has been discussed
endlessly.

I have an upstairs laundry area with a Maytag Neptune (an early one with
all the fixes done to it) and it doesn't shake anything off of any walls
downstairs.

I know the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data' but I though I would just
rebut your assertion that it shakes the house down. It doesn't.

The spin cycle is louder than that of the equivalent toploader, but that's
why our laundry area comes complete with a set of doors.



--
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.

Does anyone have experience with Samsung front loaders?

Hi,

I am also in the market for a front loading washer / dryer. I do see that
noise is a big factor in these washers. Our laundry room is in the first
floor over the basement. Does anyone have experience in the following?

1) Whirlpool Duet Washer WHW9200S & dryer GGW 9250S/9250P
Seems to be reasonably priced for a 3.8 Cu.ft capacity in the washer (
$1000)and a 7 Cu.ft dryer. Dryer talks about reversible side swing door.
Not sure if it can be installed to swing one way or the other. The washer
door seems to swing to the left which may not be convenient in our laundry
room.

2) Kenmore HE2T washer.
How is the performance & noise on this washer?

TIA for any help

Rich wrote:

" wrote in
ups.com:


suggest you buy from somewhere with a liberal return policy, as you
are gonna have NO luck with one of those beasts on the second floor.
Pictures will be falling off the walls downstairs. A cement block
under it won't help. Google is your friend, this has been discussed
endlessly.

I have an upstairs laundry area with a Maytag Neptune (an early one with
all the fixes done to it) and it doesn't shake anything off of any walls
downstairs.

I know the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data' but I though I would just
rebut your assertion that it shakes the house down. It doesn't.

The spin cycle is louder than that of the equivalent toploader, but that's
why our laundry area comes complete with a set of doors.

When my maytag neptune winds up for a spin cycle it sounds like a jet
engine revving up. It can be heard throughout first floor and its in
the basement. However it spins faster and gets more water out . I
would choose front loader anyday

On Feb 4, 1:56 pm, wrote:
I'm considering a new front load washing machine for the second floor
of a new addition. Very solid wooden floors in the space concerned,
directly adjacent to the bedroom.

While I find lower water and energy consumption very attractive about
this type of washer, I have read and heard many complaints about how
much noise and vibration they make during their spin cycle. I am very
sensitive to noise. Can those who own front load washers please
comment on this?

Thank you very much.

I saw two other washers on sale today

1) Kenmore Oasis HE (Front Loading) washer which seems quiter (and easily
accessible) than the front loaders.

2) Kenmore HE 5t a new model which is expensive but seems to have more
features than the older HE4t.

Any opinions on these? Any pros and cons about top loader vs a front loader?

Thanks

R. Kannan wrote:

Hi,

I am also in the market for a front loading washer / dryer. I do see that
noise is a big factor in these washers. Our laundry room is in the first
floor over the basement. Does anyone have experience in the following?

1) Whirlpool Duet Washer WHW9200S & dryer GGW 9250S/9250P
Seems to be reasonably priced for a 3.8 Cu.ft capacity in the washer (
$1000)and a 7 Cu.ft dryer. Dryer talks about reversible side swing door.
Not sure if it can be installed to swing one way or the other. The washer
door seems to swing to the left which may not be convenient in our laundry
room.

2) Kenmore HE2T washer.
How is the performance & noise on this washer?

TIA for any help

On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:01:36 GMT, someone wrote:


Any opinions on these? Any pros and cons about top loader vs a front loader?

Did I miss where you said why you thought you wanted a front loaded to
begin with? Just wondering. Some people are adamant that they want
them, but I'm not that excited about them and don't know that I'd get
one when my present top loader goes.

The big thing is they use less water & soap???


Reply to NG only - this e.mail address goes to a kill file.

v wrote:

On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:01:36 GMT, someone wrote:


Any opinions on these? Any pros and cons about top loader vs a front
loader?

Did I miss where you said why you thought you wanted a front loaded to
begin with? Just wondering. Some people are adamant that they want
them, but I'm not that excited about them and don't know that I'd get
one when my present top loader goes.

The big thing is they use less water & soap???


Reply to NG only - this e.mail address goes to a kill file.

Yes. I was thinking only about front loaders because they save water and
energy. But, they seem to have a lot of noise / vibration and after looking
at the Kenmore oasis HE top loaders, I am not so sure now :-(

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:12:13 GMT, a poster wrote:

On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:01:36 GMT, someone wrote:


Any opinions on these? Any pros and cons about top loader vs a front loader?

Did I miss where you said why you thought you wanted a front loaded to
begin with? Just wondering. Some people are adamant that they want
them, but I'm not that excited about them and don't know that I'd get
one when my present top loader goes.

The big thing is they use less water & soap???

They are also supposed to be much easier on the clothes and do a
better job of cleaning than the tradional top loader.

"v" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:01:36 GMT, someone wrote:


Any opinions on these? Any pros and cons about top loader vs a front
loader?

Did I miss where you said why you thought you wanted a front loaded to
begin with? Just wondering. Some people are adamant that they want
them, but I'm not that excited about them and don't know that I'd get
one when my present top loader goes.

The big thing is they use less water & soap???


I notice that you can get a top loader with a lot more space than a
side-loader (for about the same price.) I'm talking about the top-loaders
with no agitator.

S wrote:

I notice that you can get a top loader with a lot more space than a
side-loader (for about the same price.) I'm talking about the top-loaders
with no agitator.

Yes but the top loader without an agitator (such as Kenmore Oasis HE) is not
apparently as efficient as the frontloader (such as Kenmore HE5).

On Mar 4, 1:32 pm, "R. Kannan" wrote:
Hi,

I am also in the market for a front loading washer / dryer. I do see that
noise is a big factor in these washers. Our laundry room is in the first
floor over the basement. Does anyone have experience in the following?

1) Whirlpool Duet Washer WHW9200S & dryer GGW 9250S/9250P
Seems to be reasonably priced for a 3.8 Cu.ft capacity in the washer (
$1000)and a 7 Cu.ft dryer. Dryer talks about reversible side swing door.
Not sure if it can be installed to swing one way or the other. The washer
door seems to swing to the left which may not be convenient in our laundry
room.

2) Kenmore HE2T washer.
How is the performance & noise on this washer?

TIA for any help



Rich wrote:
" wrote in
oups.com:

suggest you buy from somewhere with a liberal return policy, as you
are gonna have NO luck with one of those beasts on the second floor.
Pictures will be falling off the walls downstairs. A cement block
under it won't help. Google is your friend, this has been discussed
endlessly.

I have an upstairs laundry area with a Maytag Neptune (an early one with
all the fixes done to it) and it doesn't shake anything off of any walls
downstairs.

I know the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data' but I though I would just
rebut your assertion that it shakes the house down. It doesn't.

The spin cycle is louder than that of the equivalent toploader, but that's
why our laundry area comes complete with a set of doors.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hello - I am also looking at WFW9200S for the 2nd floor. Any body
with track record on this beast?

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:00:41 -0800, someone wrote:

They are also supposed to be much easier on the clothes and do a
better job of cleaning than the tradional top loader.

Easier on the clothes would be a plus. I don't feel there are any
shortcomings in getting the clothes clean now, so that is not a big
motivation for me.

As I live in an area with ample water, I have no ecological motivation
to use less water. There is a pumping cost (we have our own well) but
I don't find that (whtever it is buried on the overall electric bill)
a big motivation either. And I'm not concerned about the cost of soap
yet.

But if the clothes would last longer..... However, I'd want one that
could still handle the blankets/comforters that now (barely) fit in
the top loader.


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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:33:03 GMT, (v) wrote:

But if the clothes would last longer..... However, I'd want one that
could still handle the blankets/comforters that now (barely) fit in
the top loader.

This is one area where front loaders are clearly superior to top
loaders: they can take king size comforters with no problem (at
least, mine can).